Gay people

This is a really nice answer and what i actually need to hear rather than saying i have internalized homophobia or being homophobic myself. Thank you, im aware that i have my own shortcomings that generalized a whole group by the first pharagraph due to the fact that most of the gays i have encountered resolve themselves around positions. Like others said, i need more experiences and worded better to not make it look like a general statement.

definetly neither, I dont think people have much sex experience on this site so im not too sure they know what they are talking about since this has been an ongoing issue for so many years since dating apps and hookup culture became the norm hopefully you can find people you can surround yourself with that wont put you in a binary, it might be hard but keep pushing ^^

They gotta learn to write coherent sentences then

That's fair and that's something that should be said. But when you read people's thoughts you shouldn't be eager to respond emotionally without trying to understand what it is they are saying. It's not really a conversation otherwise.

the way they wrote it is not great. they're quite literally generalizing, and that's bad, they should be able to write better sentences if that's what their intentions are, also a person CAN be homophobic while being gay themselves y'all, it's called internalized homophobia, and unless this OP is an actual child who don't understand social issues, they're 100% being homophobic and rude, and can be criticized for it

In my experience, most people don't use precise wording when communicating. Would be more productive to ask for clarifications than jump the gun with the insults.

When I read what OP wrote I deduced that 1) they weren't talking about all gay people because it is implied they themselves are part of that community and made clear that they support that behavior (meaning not everyone is like that) and 2) they weren't talking about all fictional gay characters since they said "it's so stupid whenever..." the keyword being "whenever" which means when it happens. If it was about all gay characters they wouldn't have used "whenever". That's just how I interpreted what they wrote.

And I will say that in general insulting people when you think their thoughts are wrong does any good. If you think they're wrong, correct them or educate them. Calling names may end up pushing the receiver even further into their "incorrect" opinion. Why would anyone agree with angry comments/mobs going at them?

dont* support that behavior

listen idk if you're a kid or what, but , implying that everyone upset by homophobic comments made is any less valid just bc YOU deduce that the specific comment isn't directed towards them and isn't actually harmful to them is a very selfish thing to do, just as they have a choice to say these things everyone else is valid for criticizing them too, regardless of how YOU feel OP's actual message is.

comments and "mobs" aren't "going after" OP, they're expressing their thoughts and opinions. just as OP did themselves. while yes calling someone homophobic bc of their homophobic statements might not be so useful in correcting and educating them out of their homophobia, you can't blame people for reacting emotionally, imagine seeing someone yap homophobic remarks while being on a site where people are consuming said media. you're trying so hard to defend op and look at things from their perspective while completely abandoning the other side's perspective.

I'm not saying my interpretation of what OP said is what everyone should've gotten out of it. I'm saying that 1) the wording wasn't very precise and 2) I think responding in anger is counterproductive in cases where the wording isn't precise. If someone angrily came up straight out and said "All gays suck" (assuming it wasn't a troll comment) then fuck it go for it.

Hmm Im pretty sure I responded to this but I don't see my response anywhere. What I said was something along the lines of: shutting someone that's trying to get opinions on their honest thoughts down isn't productive for society. Once that's the norm then there is no reason to have any sort of meaningful discussion even on things that matter because someone can always claim whatever was said was harmful to them and just end it there.

so i need to ask, why don't you do the educating? so far, all you've done is criticize others for their honest responses. instead of actually criticizing OP or educating them. if you claim all these things "aren't productive for society" sure, go and educate them , why push your opinions onto others who are clearly more upset? is THAT productive?

and here's the thing, YOU can't control what others feel out of a statement. and even though this statement from OP isn't "all gays suck" it is generalizing. i need you to understand you've been spending all these time typing and defending OP's statement but seems to only see the responses people have towards it as 'harmful' without trying to understand where they're coming from. dealing with homophobia sucks. it's tiring to explain the same thing over and over again. it's NORMAL for people to be upset. ik I'm coming across as so rude rn but I'm just really not getting why someone would go so far to protect bad statements, yes OP might be ignorant and have bad wording, and yes while that's a common and normal mistakes, it's definitely valid to have a sensitive response to it . if OP was really NOT trying to be homophobic and generalizing then both sides are valid .

I pointed out that their wording wasn't precise but yeah I could've elaborated more on that end. That's fair. It is true that when anyone makes comments online, they should be really careful with their wording if they don't want to be misinterpreted. That also applies to real life. OP wasn't careful.

As to your complaint that I spent more time on you, you did respond to me so you should've expected me to respond back no? Wouldn't make much sense for me to make all my comments to A when it is B that I am talking to. There may be my own personal core values that pushed me more in this direction also. But ultimately, I was just responding to you. I think it was productive because you were receptive to having a conversation. You may not see it that way. But that's how I feel.

As to me pushing my opinions: it is true that I am pushing my opinions, just like you are pushing your own. When people communicate it is expected that their words represent their person. OP was pushing their opinion. Everyone else that responded to them was pushing their opinion. So I personally don't see the issue there. May have misinterpreted what you meant but that's what I understood.

I don't think you're rude at all. I'm not really trying to control how you feel and that's not really possible anyway. I said I don't think it's productive. I never said your feelings werent valid or justified. I never asked you to shut up or retract your statements. I just told you how I felt. It's fine if your personal values put expressing your raw unfiltered emotions higher than I place them in my personal values. That's fair and that's fine and I would've understood that if you just said that. I never actually told you how you should think. I only ever told you what I believe. I didn't say you were wrong. I just didn't agree with the approach. And disagreeing with your approach doesn't necessarily mean that I was defending OP. Most of my responses to you werent even about OP but about general circumstances. My stance whether in this situation or any other situation is that when it comes to these sort of things that people may have different opinions and interpretations about (which applies to many thing), I just don't think it's productive to answer in anger. Me interpreting something differently than you doesn't mean that I think what you felt is wrong.

huh then that means tbh i have no qualms with you

cool. honestly, I like you (≧∀≦)

thanks i like you too, you brought up valid discussions

How am i homophobic when i am myself a bisexual transman? Its just 1 experience out of my many experiences, yeah my complaints came out harsh to you but it is just a regular complaint

like i said , internalized homophobia is a thing. you don't know what that is ? google. educate yourself. also a 'regular complaint' shouldn't be generalizing. you having bad experiences with an lgbt person doesn't give you a pass to just make big statements. read the other replies to your statement.

That's homophobic af but you do you ig

girl shut yo ass that’s fucking homophobic u fatass

....what?

Thank you. I will do me.

Um, OK, Semen.

I have no idea.