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I dont get how people immediately label Haru as a pedophile, like seriously. Haru fell in love with Ren, and Ren just happened to be under age. Haru did not fall in love with Ren BECAUSE he is under age. I mean, the technical requirement for a pedophile is liking kids, right? Just take it this way, a guy who always went out with girls suddenly falls in love with another guy, but not just any other guy, just this one guy, he is not automatically considered as homosexual but rather a bisexual, right? Unless of course after falling in love with that guy, he falls in love again with another guy, THEN he is already a homo, am i right? In Haru's case, Ren is the only person (male and underage) he loves at the moment, so how is he a pedophile then? If he leaves Ren and then goes for another underage then thats when you should call him a pedophile. But that's unlikely to happen. Besides, Ren acts and thinks more mature than his age. I dont see how impossible it is to fall in love with someone like him. So I understand how Haru fell for him. If Ren was a real human, even I would fall for him, and Im a 25 year old girl. (so are you going to call me a pedophile too?)
Trolls, them lot. I love this manga, i'm sure they'd get bored of their own shit and go away, if we continue to ignore their opinions.
the label doesn't matter...if you have a brother who is, oh, 10 or so, and some adult falls in love with him...it will make you uncomfortable..if you have a child who is 8 or 10, and a straight guy or gal of 17 or 20 decides they are in love with them...it will put you off.
I've read this from the start, and I still get some icky feelings thinking about the earlier parts. I respect Haru's wanting to wait for Ren to be older, but let's face it, the situation is hardly something fully agreeable or comfortable. It definitely is a taboo-whacker.
But dude, ren isnt 10yo. He is high schooler! Most kid nowadays already sexually active in middle school why do you guys make fuss about high schooler love story with guys that apparently only 5yo older than him?
When Haru fell in love with him, he was way younger.
While I do agree with you in your first statement, that a 8&17 relationship it's hard too understand, and even though I'm pretty open minded it irks me, I truly believe that this didn't start as love. Or at least, not romantic love. Haru tends to be really friendly with anyone, specially if he really likes them, and I think he got close to Ren because he saw his loneliness in him, not because he had that kind of interest that later he developed. And I see ren's feeling growing from infatuation to love too. Now the problem goes for when they meet again and Ren is 13-14, still young, but I let it slide having in mind how mature Ren was... For his age, at least. I am not ranting, if it may have sound like that. I just wanted to share opinions with you, since this matter I find it really interesting :)
No, when haru fell in love with him, he already in high school. after they back from canada at the second time. Read again.
I am sure that age gap between Ren and Haru is 8. I mean Haru is 24 and Ren 16
about the uke who went back to his hometown and then received a letter from his former lover who he broke up with years ago because the seme was married. So in the letter, the seme asks to meet up with him at a cafe. The uke arrived there and waited but the seme didnt come. And then he met this young guy who was also waiting for someone to come. He was waiting for his father's lover, and then he started telling his story. In the end, it was revealed that the young guy was actually waiting for the uke, and that the uke's former lover was this young guy's father who died a year ago. Thank you to anyone who could help me. :)
I wanna know too !!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Ohh thats it! Thankies! :>
So like, I started watching the anime and have reached Ep25. Just wanted to know if there are any ships in this manga. (⌒▽⌒)
personally am shipping kyoukai and shin...idk if am the only one ╮(￣▽￣)╭
(I hope you know who am talking about)
Yeah, I ship Kyoukai and Shin too...
I ship Ten,the strategist with Mouki (Ten's classmate and another genius strategist)
The part when she offered "giving birth to his kids" just made me ship them even more.. I thought people more would ship shin with ten but I guess not
Heck, I ship Shin and the Emperor. But that's just for this site.
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i swear same here!!!!! ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
I tried to have a straight ship for once now you just made me regret my decision...