akihiko really went from my top 3 fave character to bottom last. ( ̄へ ̄)he is the worst character in this series. poor ugetsu and haruki. both don't deserve such a man. sigh... i hoped the author could've made haruki not accept akihiko's proposal at first. it would've been ideal if they started their relationship back from square one as friends and gradually progress healthyly as the story goes on. (/TДT)/
But didn’t they start over tho... Aki gradually distanced himself from Haruhi and gave both of them time to like get their problems sorted which gave Aki the chance to make himself a better person that Haruhi deserves to which by the way he actually said like two times and Haruhi also saw that change and noticed that Aki was trying hard for him which is the reason that Haru ended up accepting his confession.
ugetsu broke it off. akihiko pushed himself. ugetsu did still love him but wanted to get away from him since it will never worked up. akihiko stucked around bc he know ugetsu still liked him but thats not an excuse. they were officially split off so akihiko shouldn't be making a fuss to whom ugetsu will be sleeping around. ugetsu wasn't actually leading him in. he wanted akihiko to be fed up with him so akihiko will leave the house.
didn't he said "lets stop this" pr something.it might not be officially a break up but that alone should send signals to akihiko that ugetsu knows their relationship will not work up. akihiko did sticked around bc he knows ugetsu still like him but thats not the reason. once one party is conflicted to your relationship, it is bound to make problems between the two parties. akihiko should've left ugetsu at that day or did something to make their relationship work not to messed it up even more.
but still in my opinion it would've been better if haruki and akihiko didn't ended up with one another at that night. akihiko is still at the process of changing that time. thats why i said its ideal bc it will felt like they are falling to each other once again and not like forgetting everything happened in the past in a heartbeat.
so we are just gonna.... ignore everything and go back to rainbows and unicorns??? ( ̄へ ̄)i dont like where this manhua is going... #-.-)
what param did. he did acknowledged that he did somethign bad but change don't happen in a week or a month its a LONG process. also acknowledging you did something bad doesn't equate that you already changed. the author could've separated all the characters more for Param self reflection and a healthy character development. 0(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜 it hurts me coz i really love this series but now idk how to feel bc the direction of where this is going is just...
yes thats true but the author could've given param a more healthy character development. he did acknowledged he did something bad but he almost did nothing to change except from acknowledging his fault and weep about it. and now in the current ep it looks like they are potential to have an outdoor sex on next chapter like come on man! ahhhh i really love this series but im so bummed out this past few chapter ┗( T﹏T )┛
didn't Param accepted Hwi's request to date him? and Param knew that Hwi is serious and wpuld pursue the relationship to work out for both of them. at that very moment there's really no miscommunication. but Param had sex with his crush the day before their date and its consensual.... is it necessary to had sex with someone just to know that what you feel is just a "biological" urge??
he really did have to redeem himself to Hwi. Knowing he broke the trust and all. and Param knew he liked Hwi tho. At the moment he is at the car kissing Han he said he liked somebody else. at that moment he had a choice and he also know he had a choice, but he still did it. cant you see how greedy that moment was? and the day after that he also have a date with hwi. come on. param messed up big time
it doesn’t matter if hwi was serious or wanted to “pursue him” the fact is that param wasn’t in a relationship with him yet therefore he should’ve been able to sleep with whoever he wants and I know what your saying about the timing preferably it would’ve been nice if he didn’t do that before their ‘date’ but it still isn’t wrong and doesn’t make him a bad person
I was mad that Param had sex with mr. han even though he more or less knew about hwi’s feelings but he didn’t agree to date him he agreed to go on a date with him. They weren’t officially together and he wasn’t obligated to like him back nor stay loyal to him since at that time it was pretty much a one sided crush. Param liked mr. han first and when he had the chance to have sex with him, he took it (
I can understand where you’re coming from. Param never said that he slept with Han, Hwi just assumed something happened between them because of Param’s feelings. Hwi also knew that Param had feelings for Han and still asked him out and liked him. I think what Param did was a betrayal to Hwi and to himself. But I also feel like Param was still in the “figuring things out” stage and Hwi knew that. So yes, it’s messed up, but Param is trying to fix things. I think Hwi and Param are going to need to have a talk and I think Han is going to take revenge. Knowing this author, I feel like we have a twist coming.
I was mad that Param had sex with mr. han even though he more or less knew about hwi’s feelings but he didn’t agree to date him he agreed to go on a date with him. They weren’t officially together and he wasn’t obligated to like him back nor stay loyal to him since at that time it was pretty much a one sided crush. Param liked mr. han first and when he had the chance to have sex with him, he took it (
it does make him somewhat a bad person since he took advantage to his current status even if that was unintentional. Look at it this way if you go out with someone multiple times knowing you like each other but it wasn't verbally disclosed and then suddenly the other party hooked up with someone. then wouldn't you be mad at your partner? and wasn't it so fucked up? Its tru that label is important in a relationship but it is not all that is in a relationship.
i know that too thats why i was really disappointed to the current events in this manhua. Param needed more time to himself. He acknowledged his fault but theres no "concrete" development/change to him yet so it wouldn't be smart to go establish a broken relationship when him, himself is still learning.
I know, but you can learn by trying to fix what’s broken. Instead of pushing himself away and regretting and thinking “what if” he’s acting on those “what if”. You learn how to be in a relationship by being in a relationship. And by being in that relationship, who also learn about yourself. And you may learn that you don’t like that person or that you really do like that person. Yeah, it’s a bit rushed, but I also think that they haven’t had their big talk yet and you have to get the characters at least on talking terms. So it is rushed and Param may needed more time, but for the next arc to begin- she had to bring them together
it really felt rushed. I really lost it on the last panel. i would have taken it better if they have just go on a regular date to pay the first date that param messed up but on the last panel of latest update it seems like it was insinuated that they might have a potential outdoor sex at a public restroom like man, give me a break!
Even if he did a bad thing that doesn’t make him a bad person tf... he didn’t sleep with mr han with the intention of hurting hwi I really don’t get what you’re all on about :/ they’re all adults they’re not teenagers or high schoolers he can sleep with whoever he wants if he isn’t in a relationship yet :/ he didn’t go out with hwi “multiple times” they were just friends with benefits but hwi happened to fall for him first and it took param a while to realize it and after sleeping with mr han he realized he just wanted him for his body and that the person he has feelings for is hwi
my last reply only meant to negate ypur argument about the relationship. with label or none, there's still a relationship and there's something between them that go way beyond friendship. it wasn't literally disclosed in the manhua but based on their monologues you can imply that concept.
yup they are adult and they can fuck whoever they want given that they are not officially in a relationship but the main issue is not that. its the abstract variables in the relationship. and Param's knowledge about everything and did it. that itself is already wrong.
okay lets say it was all good and Param really indeed trying his best now. going to my main comment. i dont like how this manhua is going because:
A) Param did acknowledged he did something wrong but the manhua seemed rush for Param's development. He only understand he did something wrong but he already wanted to go with Hwi which is ideally he should be aiming for proper apology first.
B) at the last panel on the current update it seems like we were getting an outdoor sex from the two when they have to talk about things first. its just wasn't balanced compared to the earlier parts of this manhua.
i wasn't here to argue because at the end of the day its still the author's last say for this story.
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isn't manipulation occur when someone was conditioned and influenced to do something that they would most likely not do if they are not being manipulated? So i don't think we can fully rule it out as manipulation tho. It was consensual and Param chose to be have sex with Han.
you are right. he can date how many times he wants but it is all about the timing. He accepted someone's request to go on a date with a certain guy and then the day before the date he slept with someone. If thay happens to you, wouldn't you feel like shit too?
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Wow, Kureshima didn't even apologized nor addressed thaat he is wrong at raping oono... this is wrong at so many level ffs (⊙…⊙ ) . To the kids reading this manga please don't ever EVER romanticize raping. It is portrayed here in manga that the raping was essential to Kureshima's showing of affection/confession of his "love" to Oono. Motherfucker didn't even bothered to repent to what he has done but instead continues to live day by day like nothing has happened. tsk. this manga is a let down. sigh... ( ̄ε(# ̄)Σ ヽ(`Д´)ノ
Keith is cheater down to his bones. Bet if he can get it up he could've been fucking another hole that isn't Yeonwoo's. Keith is far from changing. LOL He just want Yeonwoo bc he is convenient to him.
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yes, i agree, theyre really loathing keith before his character development even started kicking in, I get why they are hating keith but like as you said, its going on for too long, just so many negative comments and slander im starting to think even if he had his character development they'll still hate him, yk?
His character development is still lacking bc theres one or two issues thats been left out (or am i just not aware of it. pls inform/help me bc sometimes my brain aint working sksksk) and thats the reason why he is having a hard time saying the L word. and why he is such an asshole who changes partner like worn socks. if theres a deeper reason for these conflicts and resolved or addressed in the novel his character would be developed healthy and more effectively for the conclusion of the story. but then since it wasn't in the novel. for me. his character still kinda lacks and just looked like keith was just in a asshole phase on the earlier parts of the story idk
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anyone notices how manipulative the uke is? Indndhdd poor baby liam. uke issa spoiled brat i hope on the latter part of the series he'll be more mature. bc im starting to get annoyed at him ngl... ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Finally someone here... I dunno why people still find him funny and cute.. i admit at the beginning until before the transfer in US i find him silly and cute, but after those drunken moment i got irritated on him being such a spoiled brat who want even understand the situation, using liam and manipulating the seme.. annoying brats i dont like the most who dont mature and only see what they want and get only what they want.. i really hope he develop but i doubt.. well i still read it since i like the art, and the sexy scene but now adays cant really seems to like the uke much.. i dont hate him, but i dont like him either, personally if i encounter a real life person like the uke i will really get annoyed, like a kid throwing tantrums in the grocery... Not cute... Just my opinion only please dont hate me please.. i still like thr manhua.. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍
I think the same, lately I feel the uke is annoying
Yesss! I agree it was all cute and silly till he transferred to US but after that he just became a raging alcoholic and throwing unnecessary tantrums and just and coming up with useless ideas to make kyungjoo jealous
Same, after the part when he lied about being sick and the events after that i only read this for the art too. + if you look at the raws he will end up pregnant after a few episodes. at that point even if i can't understand the dialogue my enthusiasm for this series dropped. he was sent to US to study and fix himself up for his future but he just messed around and now he is pregnant?? come on now... he is a literal free loader, living off of his dad's money with no degree and a skill of his own... only thing he got is a rich boyfriend and thats it. the story went ass lol #-.-)
Lol i agree when i said i kinda hate the Uke cause he's all annoying someone said its all cutesy and stuff like no-
I get what you all are saying. But the uke really was acting perfectly. He's been babied all his life, and we cant really blame him cuz the seme really spoils him. He's annoying but thats just his character. there will be a development soon and we'll watch him mature, perfect for the seme.
Ehhh.. i doubt those character development you are talking about, like someone said above i have also read the raws and mind you he didn't mature even abit even if he had a baby, like see the part where he cries along side his baby and stressed the seme?.. so yeah... Mature huh.. and also being babied all his life is not a reason to be a brat, you can be spoiled but disciplined at the same time.. he just wants to throw tantrums... adult throwing tantrums.. yikes... Well yeah i agree everyone spoils him so he always got away with it.. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Oh. He's a brat then. Basically saying that not all people/character change. Where did you read the raws?
You can find it on newtoki or tkor just copy the alternative title in korean.. but for your easy find here.. hehe..(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
https://newtoki95.com/webtoon/232505?stx=%EA%B7%B8+%EC%95%8C%ED%8C%8C%EB%A5%BC+%EA%BC%AC%EC%8B%9C%EB%8A%94+%EB%B2%95&title=%EA%B7%B8+%EC%95%8C%ED%8C%8C%EB%A5%BC+%EA%BC%AC%EC%8B%9C%EB%8A%94+%EB%B2%95