No bc ure absolutely right i meant not all of them but most of them have a scene where its non-consent and it's like it's very normalized. It bothers me too but that's just how it is ig. But of course there are many fluff and consensual bl too!
To be fair, a lot of popular (straight) romance written by women these days (booktok stuff lol) is pretty toxic. I’m sure from a sociological or psychological perspective there’s a more definite phenomenon that could explain this but it probably has to do with women wanting a space to explore certain relationship aspects like that without it being real. And with BL, idk about others but I read it because it’s a world where women are not the focal point or receiver of these situations, so it becomes more of an escapist fantasy. Personally I prefer non toxic stories (check my list lol) but I can understand why women read and write these toxic stories where women are non-existent, because it becomes a place to explore that kind of dynamic without it feeling “too close to home”. That and some women are horny asf
To be fair, a lot of popular (straight) romance written by women these days (booktok stuff lol) is pretty toxic. I’m sure from a sociological or psychological perspective there’s a more definite phenomenon ... noo
i read somewhere that the reason a lot of women like to read non con/dub con in stuff is because they have been shamed away from sex for so long (due to society, religion etc), the only way they can fantasize about enjoying it or gaining pleasure from it is if someone gave (?) it to them by force. so that's why a hot guy who is obsessed with u and doesn't care about ur consent is appealing, which actually makes a bit of sense but at the same time its really sad because it all boils down to patriarchy once again :/
I'm not bashing or hating just confused on why a lot of popular yaoi is just straight up toxic relationship.
Like why? and consent is almost non existent? i don't read yaoi bcs of those but i read bl sometimes if my friend recommend it to me
No bc ure absolutely right i meant not all of them but most of them have a scene where its non-consent and it's like it's very normalized. It bothers me too but that's just how it is ig. But of course there are many fluff and consensual bl too!
To be fair, a lot of popular (straight) romance written by women these days (booktok stuff lol) is pretty toxic. I’m sure from a sociological or psychological perspective there’s a more definite phenomenon that could explain this but it probably has to do with women wanting a space to explore certain relationship aspects like that without it being real. And with BL, idk about others but I read it because it’s a world where women are not the focal point or receiver of these situations, so it becomes more of an escapist fantasy. Personally I prefer non toxic stories (check my list lol) but I can understand why women read and write these toxic stories where women are non-existent, because it becomes a place to explore that kind of dynamic without it feeling “too close to home”. That and some women are horny asf
That's a good point there.
i read somewhere that the reason a lot of women like to read non con/dub con in stuff is because they have been shamed away from sex for so long (due to society, religion etc), the only way they can fantasize about enjoying it or gaining pleasure from it is if someone gave (?) it to them by force. so that's why a hot guy who is obsessed with u and doesn't care about ur consent is appealing, which actually makes a bit of sense but at the same time its really sad because it all boils down to patriarchy once again :/