
Since everything's a mess right now I'm gonna take this opportunity to calmly express my sheer and utter hatred for Waterside Night and its fans. If this site goes down I hope I never run into their chopped asses anywhere else. Congrats on being the worst of the worst on this god forsaken site. A true accomplishment considering the competition. With all the garbage floating around and the trashy fandoms out there y'all still managed to snag first place for stinkiest fandom in my book. I doubt you could scrape together a functioning braincell between you even with all of you combined. Truly impressive. Congrats!

Congrats! This changes nothing! Waterside Night fans will still continue to like it (▰˘◡˘▰)
Since we are throwing around opinions, my opinion is that readers nowadays can't read complex characters, storylines that arent happy go lucky. "Healthy relationships" are nice to read but some of us like depth, destruction and salvation. Some of us like good character depth and complicated plots that dont go in a straight mediocre line ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

I love how y'all assume just because someone hates on a particular rape fetish manhwa they automatically can't handle anything other than pure fluff and healthy relationships. Or conversely, that just because something has "destruction" and "salvation" it's automatically deep. Everything you listed is great if executed well. One of my favourite BLs deals with child trafficking and abuse and the main characters aren't exactly saints. Stop pretending your fetish manhwa is deep when half the comments want "old man yaoi rape," pregnancy sex and are just being horny lol. You're free to like whatever you want and I'm free to hate on whatever I want.

RIGHT. also its so funny to me that these people think a good dark psychological story with depth can't exist without brushing over or excusing rape. those are literally my favourite kind of stories, but these people will never read them cuz now that's something that requires actual comprehension skills. & ykw? i read the latest side of ltit, cuz the comments were literally so excited over how one of the characters who is indirectly responsible for the mc being raped is punished (and his punishment is becoming a sex slave ie being raped for the rest of his life). and they're glazing the male lead at the same time? like? are second chances only allowed for characters who actually rape someone? taeju walks away free but the other guy suffers for the rest of his life? but again expecting smth good from this author and readers is insanity in the first place.

I read those comments. That was literally my last straw. I avoid that fandom like the plague because of how insane they can be and I never would've made this post if they didn't exceed my expectations each time I thought they've hit rock bottom. They don't really believe in redemption as much as they try to claim that. They believe in instant gratification. The gratification of seeing a "toxic ML" be so regretful and changing through the power of love or whatever BS they believe in (even though that would realistically never ever happen) and the gratification of seeing the villain be "punished." Their idea of justice is so childish it's pathetic. If they believed in redemption they would extend that grace to every character as long as they cry and regret their actions. Also wasn't the ML the one who sold the guy into sexual slavery in the first place? (I haven't read the sides. They gross me out). And we're supposed to believe he redeemed himself? I saw comments wishing to see "old man yaoi rape" with 60 upvotes and I'm supposed to believe these people really read that garbage for the "depth" and the "salvation" and not to jerk off to rape? Idk who they're trying to fool atp.

So i cant reply to each of yall but rape, muder, and lotsa crimes are committed by these fictional men in these stories. In no way am i glorifying it if i like the damn story?? Lmaooo how short sighted can yall be?? I base my preferences on how they made me feel while i read them. Most stories are so bland and boring, i love stories that make me ache, make me rage, make me laugh. Waterside night is simply one of those stories. And yall cant handle loving tragedy and good stories? Go back to reading whatever makes yall happy. No use trashing stories yall dont like just cuz yall cant understand it? I mean whats the point? Theres some dumb shit in here with no flavour whatsoever but still some readers enjoy it and well thats good for them.
How about yall try not to enforce your opinions on everyone? And yall know im right lol

And yall @terracottaPie and @gojos cock sleeve
Dont be so emotional about it. Yall confusing fiction with reality. I read many stories that involve criminals, redemption, prisoners and saints. It is absolutely 100% enjoyable for me to see the world in their perspective, how they deal with it, how the story turns out. They all stories in the end.
Yall have got to stop acting like the only opinions that matters are yours. Learn to bend a little

Dang. I was going to offer you the courtesy of a serious reply but you sound really triggered and emotional rn. I don't think you're in the right headspace for an argument. Take a deep breath and go back to enjoying your garbage in peace. You make a lot of baseless assumptions that aren't even worth getting into. No one's trying to force their opinion on you. You decided to comment on someone's post that wasn't even under the manhwa. That's on you. You're not a victim. Stop crying. No one's telling you to stop reading what you like lol.

Nah I mean cmon. You using words like "garbage " "sheer utter hatred" and calling me emotional? Do you see the irony or are you blind too?
And you posted a comment to get others to agree with you right? Not feeling too happy when there are people who dont think like you? Take a break and touch some grass ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

I'm prone to exaggeration sometimes and call a lot of stuff garbage if I don't enjoy it. When I say I hate the fans I hate those with poor reading comprehension skills aka the majority. That's just how I talk. If you disagreed respectfully I would've been more courteous. But not only did you not respond to any of the specific points made by the commenters (which I've seen some Waterside fans agree with), you're making stuff up and arguing with a strawman. Who said they didn't like tragedy? Who said you glorify rape and crime? At least I wrote my post about the fandom in general in an exaggerated and vague way because obviously there are people in that fandom who can think for themselves like any other fandom. I didn't write down your name and call you a piece of shit specifically, did I? I'm sorry some people think your fave story is garbage. It happens. If you touched enough grass you would've known not to take that personally.

they're literally so fucking disgusting, and then they'll tell u oh I'm not reading this cuz I enjoy watching rape or anything. well u clearly do. there were so many comments saying the author should've shown the rape, should make a spinoff about him being raped, one of them literally said 'how is it a punishment if he's getting dicked down by a hot old man'... braindead all of them (well not all, a minority actually had some brains). literally all of them had 50, 60+ likes too and barely any dislikes. also, they're saying well its only fiction but at the same time theyre saying its such a good idea and people like this deserve to get raped irl too. basing ur morals off of a rape fetish comic? putting someone into sexual slavery is enabling the cycle of rape, is producing more rapists, and you're saying that's a good thing and should happen irl? oh but fiction doesn't affect reality sure.
I'm supposed to believe these readers are enjoying it for the 'realistic' plot about the criminal world or whatever when they're saying shit like 'am I weird for wanting to see him getting dicked down (raped) lol' yes u are tf? like, there's other disgusting stuff on here too but at least the readers don't pretend to be on their high horse and admit that they have a fetish. here they'll say well taeju is nice now so its fine, but also wont give the same leverage to other characters. also idk why u have to explain to people that there absolutely can be stories about rape, about abuser x victim relationships, but this isn't the way to write them. at least acknowledge that its a bad trope and bad writing, u can say that and still enjoy it. u don't have to defend everything w ur life, I've read my share of shitty stories and enjoyed them, but if somebody comes up to me and says that bad writing, I'll just agree? cuz its true?
also!!! PLEASE READ HAPPY OF THE END! tw for rape, child prostitution, abuse but nothing glorified of course. there were *some* plot points that idk how i feel about, but its amazing for the most part. funniest part is that its one of the few comics that deals w these subjects w nuance but is rated 8.9... i will never understand mangago ratings. also I'll give the one u mentioned a try! :3

I've come across so many BL fans of rapist x victim stories but I've never seen anything get defended to the extent this one does. It's wild. All because the dude cried and had a panic attack, lol. They're so dishonest. I'm not even ashamed to say I have more respect for people who admit they're rape fetishisers outright than I do for them. They hide their fetish behind a desire for "justice" or compassion for a "redeemed" character. I do enjoy my fair share of problematic stuff too but I won't cry and defend it because I'm self-aware enough to know what the characters do is objectively bad. Their egos are so massive they take any criticism of the story as a personal attack. You can always count on them to bring out the "don't like don't read," "you're reading illegally so you can't be critical," or "you're confusing fiction with reality!" They're so predictable. The last one is especially funny to me because I've seen them seriously argue that rapists can change and that they can become loving partners. Some of them even argue that all couples rape each other at some point (would hate to know how they came to that conclusion). They're all either a bunch of degenerates who disguise their weird little fetishes as morbid curiosity and fascination with the criminal underworld or just really naive. I've seen them rec that manhwa to people who ask for wholesome BLs with siblings. I can't imagine how delusional someone needs to be to think that crap is wholesome in any way. Anyway I can go on and on about how trashy they are lol. Can't wait for the day the sides end so I don't see their brainless comments on feeds anymore. Also will def read that one as soon as I have the time. I'm taking a break from reading to focus on other stuff rn but I promise it'll be the first thing I pick up when I get back to it.

Every time a new chapter of a manhwa I really like drops new readers spawn out of nowhere and leave the most mind numbing comments. Each time I try to correct them I get blocked and each time I check their profiles their favourite BL is Jinx. I really hope Jinx comes back soon so they stop infesting other manhwa topic sections because this seems like an epidemic

The only way to enjoy this site is by ignoring comments that you think could ruin your mood. Especially if you really like the story, I mean many readers on this site have different thoughts, sometimes some respond very politely and kindly, and sometimes many respond very rudely. And with that many readers, it's impossible to correct them one by one, so it's better for you to enjoy reading the stories you like without having to think about other people's comments.
That's just my personal opinion, and I hope you always enjoy your reading time.Happy reading :)

Thank you. My mood isn't ruined. That was just a small rant about something I noticed that happened more than once so I felt like sharing it. It's definitely a pattern and cements in my mind that certain stories attract people with poor reading comprehension skills. That's all. Most of the time people take informative comments really well so I keep replying, especially if it's a story I really like and have thought about extensively it's fun to interact with others even if I find that their takes are poor.

They are probably newgen and/or on the younger side who got into bl after/during covid so they don't really have a good "etiquette" in these kind of spaces. I often see them saying their first bl was Jinx which makes sense and that attracts and makes a certain type of fanbase. So yeah because they use as base and foundation those kind of stories with a bland or non existent plot they are only used to make dumb comments. Not that it's bad or anything, I myself read Jinx and enjoy other bls with little plot and leave dumb comments on them too but I do agree that for webtoons that are more on the complex side is way more fun for everyone reading to leave a well thought comment, especially after a plot heavy chapter that was made to let you make theories about the story. It is a little annoying reading every two comments "I don't understand what's going on when are they fucking" but I guess that's just the stories they're used to... And maybe (for everyone's sake, both theirs and ours) what they should stick to haha

I never used this site during the pandemic, but yeah I've seen so many people mention that it got many new users during that time so that makes sense. The idea that someone's first BL would be Jinx is wild to me. That's such a bad introduction to the genre imo. I enjoy a lot of fun light and smutty BLs too and leave stupid comments but those types of comments really don't fit under the more complex stories and would just make me sound dumb. You can't treat a complex character the same way you treat a one-dimensional one for example. People should def read whatever they want but sometimes it's very clear that a reader isn't mature enough to fully understand something and they just end up frustrating themselves and other readers. Thank you for your reply. Now I understand why most of these users made their accounts around 2019-2021 lmao.

I'm looking for GL recs for a beginner. The ones I've gotten before had terrible translations I couldn't keep reading them. Please no SA of any kind not even non-consensual kissing.

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/ring_my_bell/
My fav rn. It's so wholesome and funny too

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/tsukuritai_onna_to_tabetai_onna/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hello_melancholic/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/crescent_moon_and_doughnuts/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/5_seconds_before_a_witch_falls_in_love/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/brighter_than_the_lightstick_encore/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/handsome_girl_and_sheltered_girl/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/umineko_sou_days/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/model_and_quiet_manager/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/whispering_you_a_love_song/

I GOT YOU POOKIE
Manhwa:
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/her_shimcheong/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/maid_in_heaven_1/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/getting_to_know_grace/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/ghosts_of_greywoods/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/opium/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/maison_de_maid/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/bead_master/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/pulse_ratana_satis/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/lily_love/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/lily_love_2/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/soul_drifters/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/on_a_leash/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_thy_neighbor_2/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/i_love_amy/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/blooming_sequence/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/a_joyful_life/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_sound_of_a_butterfly/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_are_my_destiny_1/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/relationship_guidelines/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/a_model_advisory/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/partition/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/after_the_curtain_call/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/shine_on_you/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/don_t_fall_in_love/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_love_doctor/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/mom_i_m_gay/
Manhua:
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/lass_2/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/she_is_still_cute_today/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/straight_girl_trap/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_one_i_yearn_for/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/bai_lijin_among_mortals/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/universe_s_most_jealous_goddess/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/soulmate_yuri/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hertz_around_you/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/half/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/her_mountain_her_ocean/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/falling_blue_bbl_scans/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/fall_in_love_with_the_empress_zephyr_scans/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/perfect_heroine_wants_to_possess_me_bbl_scans/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/can_t_give_her_up/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/mojito/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/superstar_rivalry/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/couple_of_mirrors/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_song_that_transcends_this_world/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/clandestine_affair/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/long_awaited_feelings/
Manga:
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_guy_she_was_interested_in_wasn_t_a_guy_at_all/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/isekai_picnic/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/eventually_i_will_become_yours/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/asagao_to_kase_san/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/run_away_with_me_girl/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/teiji_ni_agaretara/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/composing_spring_in_this_room_where_cherry_blossoms_bloom/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/senpai_oishii_desu_ka/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/opapagoto/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/with_her_who_likes_my_sister/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/koushin_koinu_ni_koibumi_wo/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/strawberry_fields_wo_mou_ichido/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/come_rain_or_shine/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/our_teachers_are_dating/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/cheerful_amnesia/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hero_san_and_former_general_san/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/futaribeya/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/my_sister_s_best_friend_my_lover/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/ashita_mo_mata_yuusha_no_tonari/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/even_the_introverted_gals_wanna_get_out_there/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/shinmai_shimai_no_futari_gohan/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/tsubame_tip_off/

You can also check out my gl lists
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/2767307/
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/3088530/

After the disappointment that was the Pizza Delivery Man I need good toxic yaoi that's actually well written and doesn't rely on rape for conflict please. I already read Lost in the Cloud.

im gonna rec some but icl im not completely sure if they comtain rape or not.. unfortunately its a staple even with the healthy ones nowadays. anyw here:
solo for two
dark heaven
sitgma
exotic love
love or hate (love triangle + one of the mls his stepbrother...)
murderous lewellyn's candlelit dinner (absolute banger u should read this)

I swear if my favourite manhwa will have MPREG I'm gonna kms. Literally the only manhwa that brings me joy currently I can't handle that. Idc if every single other manhwa has MPREG just please spare this one. Bye.

Dreaming of the Dokkaebi. There are a few I love currently but they either update very slowly or just stress me out. I don't even mind MPREG but you can't just shove it in the second season at least establish that from the start Look at those rabid fans in the comments wanting my poor Minchan to get pregnant

There isn't even MPREG, only a mention of a goddess of fertility and regular pregnancy. People heard pregnancy and ran with it. Now I'm getting paranoid thinking it might be foreshadowing There hasn't been any indication that men could get pregnant yet but I'm stressing tf out. Not only would it not make any sense it would ruin the whole thing for me. Now I'll be stressing out while reading it too. RIP my comfort read

Thank you for being sane! I don't get how people want to sacrifice the good writing for some unnecessary MPREG subplot. I have faith in the authors too but those comments had me worried, especially since Korean authors tend to go along with what's popular at the expense of the writing sometimes.
Yess! I knew I could count on a fellow Saezuru fan to have good takes!

Mangas under any genre that have queer themes? Romance is optional but the main focus should be on something else. Basically just a story that happens to have gay main characters and not a story about main characters being gay if that makes sense.
Basically I'm asking this question in a different font https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/19002268/

Maybe count tachibana? https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/count_tachibana/

Maybe try devilman? The story is kinda about a queer one sided love story of the mc and his best friend but focus on so much more beyond thier "love" story. It talks about the end of the world and how humanity act under the pressure of knowing it's going to end and really has beautiful takes about what make us humans and the ties that biunds us also contains christian symbolism. (The manga is old so the art style may bother you a little, netflix did a reboot while ago but beware that while the story is still enjoyable, they changed alot of things and alot of events/characters..etc but still loyal to the main concept.)
(Also the end may be confusing (fun fact it is what inspired Evangelion ending) but if you read the sequel "Amoun" it will helps you to understand what happens, also I love devilman so much so i you read it, i can explain the ending to you if u want to)

Other stories i can think of that have queer charcters and queer love story as a side plot is, yuri on ice, bana fish and no6. They all have a plot that focus on something while maintaining a queer love story that isnt the main focus and for the The last two, it is more of implicit then it's explicite.
Ao no flag is also a good recommendation, while it is alove story it doesn't like entirely focus on the queer side rather it focus on the coming age aspect of high school love and the struggle of teenage years.
(Japanese) mangas with the most gorgeous covers? It's okay if the covers are simple or if you think others might not find them that aesthetically pleasing. As long as you find them pretty I'd love to see them.
Bless is a good one I'd say.
Thanks, and I agree! Bless and Blue Period are my favourites.
My absolute favorite have to be the Canis, Dear Hatter covers from the official eng copies. So colorful and bold!
Seven days
I have always loved the cover Sakura Gari and Itou-san (Kuraka Sui)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/monster_and_ghost/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kono_koi_wa_hoshi_ni_wa_negawanai/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_are_my_angela/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/barefoot_angel/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/innocent_sakamoto_shinichi/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/innocent_rouge/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/drcl_midnight_children/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kami_to_yobareta_kyuuketsuki/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_concours/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kimi_no_yoru_ni_fureru/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/on_doorstep/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/haruka_tooki_ie/ (This is a must)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/fangs/
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/madk/
I love those covers so much, along with the back covers! Anything Zakk draws is instantly gorgeous.
Thanks guys! I've already seen most of these and love all of them. I guess I've already seen the best BL has to offer in terms of art style. Appreciate the non-BL recs, they're stunning.