maybe if yall would just TALK instead of GUESSING what's gonna happen next then maybe yall would be LIVING HAPPILY EVER AFTER or something. but then, that would ruin the whole story of this manhwa so ok continue... i guess
well atleast they're grown up before they start fucking and wasn't step brother before all that and it's not a love triangle with an obvious better choice but the uke still wants to fuck his step brother instead of a normal person that could help him get out from that toxic relationship... yes, I AM talking about love or hate lmao
Love this comment even if I’m team Jowoon
I would say fuck you but since you're being kinda nice then
um, how long have you been reading fiction lol? step sibling relationships have always been romanticized...
Yes step brother for 3 years during their teens and an obvious better choice who manipulates him into a relationship and ignores consent girl you stupid as hell for this
hahha i get u im team taku too
why u makin it sound like it's okay to normalize it....
"ignores consent" AS IF joowon didnt JUMP on haesoo when they were STEP BROTHER IN HIGH SCHOOL for literally being fucking horny... yall joowon stans would do EVERYTHING iust to escape the fact that their relationship is disgusting. yall are too for sexualizing and romantacizing relationships yhat should have never been formed. blood related or not, they're still step fucking brothers. period.
as you should queen!
no i'm just wondering why you're questioning it if it's been happening since the beginning of fiction. what more is there to normalize lmao? that trope isn't going anywhere.
LMAOOOOO JOOWON JUMPED HAESOO WELL SINCE YOU HAVE YOUR TAKU VISION GLASSES ON ITS CLEAR ANYTHING I SAY WONT MATTER
Taku gets off on seeing haesoo in distress there's petty disgusting too but I guess ex step brothers is what does it for you okay
Thanks to you I wanted to read it and now I will not
it's been so long and the updates are so slow in progress that I literally forgot the whole plot of this lmao can someone tell me a quick recap? even if it's just the important ones.
Wei Ying was stabbed by A'Ling and is now unconscious and flashing back to the Indoctrination onwards.
what part of the story is this compared to the anime? does everybody know who wei ying really is or is it still the part where everybody doesn't know who he is?
Well its a flashback so everyone knows who Wei Ying is right now. Since its...the OG version lol.
As for the "present" Wei Ying, its still unclear to manynof who he truly is, althoygh most have an idea anyways.
I think its better to judge where we are on the novel though since the manhua is showing scenes we dont get in the anime.
Which is awesome! Lol
OHHH this is a flashback. I was like "what the hell happened to the main story, who the fuck is this, where are we?" LMAOOO thank you for explaining! I was really lost cuz I have a bad memory and I read a lot of other things too
Im so confused. Is the long flashback already over or is it just starting? I don't remember.. that long flashback where they showed that the sister and her husband and the others died?
It just started, and all that comes much later.
Omg that means this manga wont be over soon
Nope
Lmao same hwhshshshsh good thing i started watching the drama which helped me process things lmfao lajdjshdn
WHY CANT YALL JUST STOP FLIRTING AND START FUCKING ALREADY YALL ARE SO HOT AND FOR WHAT? TALKING?! NO MAAM
EDIT: OH LORD. IM SO HURT RN. YALL... I THINK ALL OF US FORGOT... IT'S FUCKING SHOUNEN AI! THERE WON'T BE ANY SMUT SCENES NOT THE AUTHOR MAKING US ACT UP BUT WOULDN'T ACTUALLY SERVE AND DELIVER
well, that was a whole mess. 6 chapters for a flashback... yikes
I really want Joowon to find happiness too but... that happiness should not be haesoo. there's too much emotion, damage and toxicity in that relationship that it's really not healthy for them to be together. especially when haesoo KNOWS that what they're doing is WRONG and that fact itself is one of the main reasons why they should not stay together and just move on. haesoo finally found a sanctuary to heal (Taku) and Joowon is just holding him back from that. he really should just forget that awful past and just acknowledge the fact that they're STEP BROTHERS
How was joowon holding haesoo back from that?? It’s haesoo’s thoughts that we see him always thinking about joowon
true. but you could also see Joowon desperately trying to get haesoo back therefor he IS holding haesoo back from moving on. if he really wanted haesoo to live a normal life then he would just VANISH from haesoo's map for a while until all is well and forgotten.
Joowon already was doing that? The one who went to see him was Haesoo, Joowon never called him nor ask his help. Heck, the one who invited him was Taku. Literally, nobody is helping themselves by keeping each other close lol Haesoo doesn't even know that Joowon still is romantically thinking about him, the only thing Joowon has shown is that he doesn't resent him and that he still supports him. He (at the moment) hasn't acted on his true feelings... But I get what you are saying tho-
Joowon trying desperately to get Haesoo back? He hasn't contacted him for a long time at all?
Don't just try & blame Joowon because if Haesoo really wanted his new relationship to work with Taku then he would just end everything with Joowoon and I mean cutting him off completely. Their not fucking stepbrothers anymore so it's not an excuse to use anymore, and honestly that's the only thing y'all hold back on Joowoon. I dont want him getting back with Haesoo either, he deserves someone that truly loves him and not feel sorry for him, yall make it out that Joowoon is completely thr bad guy when really he just loves Haesoo
It ain't a sanctuary when he's with and making love with Taku and still be thinking of "toxic" Joowon.
That was like 50 chapters ago since that fight with haesoo, Joowon has been minding his business and yet haesoo still thinks about him it’s not joowon holding him back
lol tf so poetic but girl, taku is no sanctuary
i didnt even noticed it rhymed maybe im gifted
NOT THE "WHAT ARE YOU DOING STEP BRO?" STANS COMING AT ME yall really pop a nerve when normal people call yall out for sexualizing step fucking brothers cuz they're hot huh? PLEASEEE LMAO "joowon is hotter so" okay sis sexualize them all you want but don't expect normal people to agree with yalls dirty ass minds.
that's why I called him a sanctuary to HEAL cuz why'd you even need a healing sanctuary if you weren't damaged in the first place? that's why he needs to heal to move on. what's not clicking "what are you doing step bro" stan?
Seriously. I have no words. People explained themselves and then you are projecting some things out of nowhere on them.
Think logically. They are NOT step brothers for years now. They met when they were 15, didn't grow up together. And lived with each other for 3 years. There is nothing and never was brotherly about their bond from psychological point of view. And they aren't family even by law at this point.
the most recent chapter is literally joowon saying he'd do everything to get haesoo back
I think that kinda forced and pressured relationship is the best place to heal....
the most recent chapter is literally joowon saying he'd do everything to get haesoo back which means he accepted the invite to meet haesoo there cuz if haesoo was not there he wouldn't even have thought of coming there
"If I could, I would rewrite our story from the beginning"
He didn't want to involve Haesoo with his scandal so of course he went there when he heard Haesoo involved himself in the whole matter.
girl Joowon FORCED himself to haesoo when they were STILL STEP BROTHERS back then. that's where it all began. that's why a lot of people think that Joowon is in the wrong cuz HE SHOULDNT HAVE DONE THAT TO HIS STEP BROTHER IN THE FIRST PLACE. what's not clicking? yall that muthafuckin horny to see them fuck or sumn? go to mf pornhub. aint no normal human being will think that this is normal.
Nobody told you anything related to that. Almost all the replies were people telling you how Joowon literally has already let Haesoo go while respecting his decision. Nobody even said something about Joowon's looks or his family links with Haesoo lmao But go off , I guess.
he's literally going to the gallery because of haesoo. literally the recent chapter showed that he took the crampled invite and thought of going. literally means he's planning to get back wt haesoo.
you think it would be easy for haesoo to move on when his step brother literally jumped on him when they were highschoolers and their parents found out they were fucking and still kept in touch for the whole fucking time which lead to haesoo's mom being distant from him and had a whole fucking trauma from that whole fuckin experience he had because of that past psycho joowon?
Forced? They were mutually attracted to each other. Also they were still teens at this point.
Seriously I'm not even going to reply. Because you attacking someone personally and making some absurd assumptions is below any criticism.
Sorry some of us can expand our thinking and understand their situation was rather complicated. At best it was wrong against their parents at the time. But as I said putting two teens in a family don't magically create psychological sibling bond. And at this point they aren't step brothers by law too.
Firstly it looks like months have passed between their "break up" and present time. Secondly we don't know what is the purpose of him going there or even if he will or won't be there in the end.
and what's yalls reason to stan Joowon? exactly, because he's hot. I don't think yall would still stan him if he werent hot and jumped on his step brother back when they were highschoolers now dont you? the fact that yall are defending him just proves my point that yall are fantasizing them. dizguztang.
period pooh, u tell em
I don't know what are u even reading... At this point. It was clear it was MUTUAL attraction. Joowon made the first step but Haesoo reciprocated.
We can agree that Haesoo's mum had right to be angry. But her being physically abusive? Guilt tripping both Joowon and Haesoo for years? Wanting to send her own son abroad? Saying that she wants to love him but he is making it hard.
She was the adult there and the way she handled the things wasn't nothing to be proud of.
its funny how stans sugarcoat taku so much when the fact of the matter is that he just wasnt satisfied to tv so he went off and looked for different entertainment. apparently manipulating a mentally unstable novelist is where its at oof
the fact that yall are defending him means that yall stan him. and what else could be the reason to stan him if he wasnt hot? well I don't think yall would stan him for JUMPING on his step brother when they were HIGHSCHOOL KIDS now don't yall? proves my point that yall like to fantasize them. dizguztang. yall do know that fantasizing and sexualizing isn't normal right? right???
He literally thought: "If I COULD, I would rewrite everything". Joowon doesn't even know if he has a chance but in case he does have it he would take it. He is not plotting or trying to create an opportunity lmao What are you saying? Taku invited him, Joowon doesnt give a single crap about him, why other reason besides Haesoo he would have to go? lol I dont even want them together either but calm down.
NOT YOU GETTING MAD AT ME FOR ATTACKING "SOMEONE" WHEN THEY'RE LITERALLY FICTIONAL and as if I'm not right lmao yall like sexualizing a lot huh? disgusting
"if i could" which implies if he had the power or authority to do that then he would do it. what do you think is the reason he'd go there if it wasn't for haesoo? girl, be normal. sexualizing isn't good.
"if i could" which implies if he had the power or authority to do that then he would do it. what do you think is the reason he'd go there if it wasn't for haesoo? girl, just stop.
Their NOT STEPBROTHERS ANYMOOOOREEEE. He got with Taku so he could forget about Joowoon... and Heasoo is a very powerful person if not being seen , Joowoon basically bows down to Heasoo because hes that much in love with him....and Heasoo relationship with his mother has NOTHING to do with his relationship and actions on Joowoon. That's 2 different relationships. What IM saying is y'all try and put all the damn blame on Joowoon it takes 2 to create a problem. Joowoon isn't the only TOXIC person Heasoo is also toxic, fuck Taku is too. What happened in the past isn't haunting Heasoo yall only say that bc in the past they were stepbrothers and y'all dont like that. Yall try and portray Haesoo as this pure innocent person when hes nooooottt he's much more as TOXIC as Joowoon. But because I'm saying this doesn't mean I want Haesoo and Joowoon to end up together because I really dont either I'm just upset because yall try and make Joowoon as the bad guy when really he's really in love with Haesoo (▰˘◡˘▰)
also, no. if taku wasnt attractive yall wouldnt be justifying and whitewashing that sneaky personality. asking for consent despite knowing how incredibly wrong his actions are, then having the audacity to act jealous because hes caught feelings is hilarious. unless he actually apologizes for that crap and idk dEvELopS i cant tell if his stans are even sober.
and ironically enough, the fact that haesoo and joowon are stepbrothers is the main reason why taku even made a move on haesoo. apparently ur photographer was just looking for a pasttime until he went back to japan. and an attractive novelist with a controversial past together with a famous actor fit the bill
Seriously I'm impressed with your argument. Offending others, projecting strange things.
If I could I would REWRITE. I love how you cut off everything which won't match your narrative.
girl haesoo just got used to it because joowon was confusing him and kept violating him for YEARS. that's why haesoo have troubles moving on cuz he got USED to joowon JUMPING him. and if I was a mom and found out my KIDS been FUCKING EACH OTHER this whole time I'd be shocked and give em a lesson too. DO U REALLY THINK THAT'S NORMAL?? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? and as if parents beating their kids up isnt normal like girl you're white aren't you? that's why you never experience a beating.
You were calling real people disgusting, abnormal because they have different view...it is disturbing enough.
... Why are you personally atacking me? My whole responses were about Joowon's actions, not his looks. How do you even end up with that conclusion? I told you that I don't want them together and somehow I'm fantasizing them? You are really slow. I love Joowon because he is a broken character who found the answers of his flaws through himself. Not by using other people like Haesoo and Taku did. He didn't force his feelings on Haesoo when they were in highschool, go back and reread this and there are times when Haesoo thinks how they were everything to each other before their downfall. How both of them agreed to this. Did Joowon at some point in the present force his selfish feelings on Haesoo? Yes, he is admitting that in this chapter but we also have plenty of chapters were Haesoo admits the same thing. What a boring conversation.
Like the damn scandal that happen Haesoo didnt have to help Joowoon he could've said NOO , Haesoo is holding his damn self back from being happy either with Taku or by himself. He just wanted a excuse to see Joowoon again, because the same way Haesoo can block and cut anyone he had sexual relations with he could've done the same with Joowoon.
girl we been fighting over fictional characters this whole fucking time. I think it's time for a lil break. my brain can't process how joowon stans normalized sexualizing and fantasizing shit to the point they disregard the fact that Joowon is in the wrong and just think about how hot he is LMFAO
Ok. I seriously recommend rereading the story because ... You completely didn't get it.
Confusing and violating his for years...
Oh so you approve of abuse. Sweet.
You are the one sexualising and fantasizing. I'm only interested in plot. You brought the whole bs to the conversation.
Of course Joowon made mistakes. Haesoo also made his own mistakes.it was clearly shown in the story.
Once again I recommend rereading it.
girl, comprehension really doesn't exist in your dictionary huh? reread that sweetie. I literally said joowon violated and confused haesoo for years that haesoo just got used to it so how is that ME approving any of joowon's actions? i literally said that as an evidence that Joowon is the bad guy in this fuckin story lmao
... Or right then, I'm a sinner. Oh GOD FORGIVE ME. Then dont romanticize a relationship based on emotional manipulation and guilt-trip either, calling Taku a sanctuary lmao OK.
You approve abuse in families. Like parents beating their kids. No nowadays psychology would approve that. NON.
Firstly Haesoo admitted few times himself he wronged Joowon. And Joowon wronged Haesoo.
I am literally waiting for evidence how Joowon violated and confused Haesoo for years when there was consent and the attraction was mutual.
how is me, saying that Joowon should stay tf away from haesoo and move on, sexualizing and fantasizing them? girl u high or u just dumb? and you're saying that you're not reading for the plot? so why are you reading this kind of genre? exactly! cuz you like to watch and sexualize them that's why you're so desperate at defending your fucked up Joowon. I recommend your mom rebirthing you tf up cuz you literally got worms for brains. poor thing.
I said I'm reading FOR the plot.
And said you are the one brining the whole sexualising and fantasizing thing to the conversation.
and just when I made a point. YOU CAME BACK TO SQUARE FUCKING ONE. you're just circling around the same fucking discussion because you can't think of any other reason to justify your step-brother-fucking joowon. bye- people like you shouldn't be allowed to read things like this. you're a danger to society. fucked up mind.
aweee life must be so easy on you huh? LMAO BLACK FAMILIES, ASIAN FAMILIES, HISPANIC FAMILIES. WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH THAT EXCEPT FOR YALL WHITE ASS KIDS what's your fucking point? you have nothing to say so you bring up a new topic?
You are just pathetic and offensive.
You can't grasp the concept of psychology. You can't understand there was no psychological, brotherly bond. There is not even law bond at this point. You approve of abuse in families.
And you can't understand that the characters aren't white and black.
How narrow minded someone has to be to assume white children don't face abuse smh.
... So you want Joowon to find happiness even tho you think he is an abuser and r*pist? You feel for him? LOL If that's what you think about Joowon and yet you want him to find happiness maybe the one who needs help its you. I woud wish for his misery if he was anything from this list of characteristics you gave me. The bad guy? Right. Like Haesoo didn't manipulate him as well while he was constantly thinking about causing him pain to feel better about himself. Nobody is the "bad guy" here, baby. Done with this conversation.
oop I read that plot thing wrong. I'm currently playing right now so nvm that. BUT I only said that cuz what else could be the reason why yall stan that thing? EXACTLY cuz he's HOT. even thought he's in the wrong yall disregard that cuz he's fucking hot. that's sexualization bruv. yall like him to do nasty things with haesoo to see all the explicit scenes. don't even try to deny cuz ths fact that yall stan him is already proof that yall like to sexualize people because of their looks.
Sorry to disappoint I don't really care about character's looks. I don't care about explicit scenes too tbh.
His thread is a lot deeper and complicated than you make it be.
And once again you force your assumptions on others smh.
girl the way you made NO FUCKING POINT at all. u think u did something huh? >LMAO "nobody is the bad guy here" sis you blind or retarded? tell your parents to set up an appointment this week end. you need a brain surgery ASAP
"assumption" as if I haven't read the whole fucking thing from the beginning? how was I making assumptions when all that literally happened? chile just admit it that you're a sexualizing freak and move on. BYE-
YESSSSS PREACHHHHHHHHH !!!!!
and yet you don't know that parents beating their kids up are normal to MOST families... god, how much more excuses can you make?
Uuuu the level of your argumentation is mind-blowing. Brain surgery in psychiatry like for example lobotomy is rarely used nowadays.
And yes it's not everyone's fault you don't understand the plot. Because it's clear author wanted to portray three complex, flawed characters but non of them is a bad guy. They have their faults, they made mistakes. But they are recognizing them and learning to be better human beings in the future.
But we shouldn't pretend it is not normal. We shouldn't repeat their mistakes. As I said present psycholog and psychiatry condemn such behaviour.
GIRL THEY'RE ASIANS. FUCKING ASIANS. HAVE YOU EVEN READ OR SEEN THIS MANHWA?!?! BOY YOU ARE SO FUCKING DUMB. "concept of psychology" girl there is no psychology here. joowon is just a pyscho who jumped on his step brother by LAW. so you also normalize breaking laws huh? LMAO FREAK
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I have no words. you are now officially the dumbest human I know. wait no, you're a dog aren't u? that's why you lack common sense and understanding?
Are you really calling me retarded because of a manhwa? Uff, sad.
and how tf is me telling a person to get brain surgery related to the story? how was there any connection? you think you did something and debunked me by saying that? delusional
the fact that it only takes a manhwa to identify your limit of understanding IS sad. LMFAO u sound dumber and dumber everytime u reply. just get the fuck out of here u are wayyy to funny
I just dont get how your not seeing how we're saying we DON'T FUCKING SHIP HAESOO AND JOOWOON TOGETHERRRRR. You must be a Taku stan that's great! But before trying to assume on another character maybe you should reread over the one you stan bc you going hard in the paint over someone "I feel for him" you honestly been going back and forth about something you made up in your own damn mind.... butttt then let's talk about Takuuu.... hes not as sweet and pure as you stans make he be. Let's talk about that (●'◡'●)ﾉ
A rat really gets pressed when it get cornered. Be bothered all you want, I'm pretty sure Joowon stans think more of him aside from being hot. You're acting so pure, as if Taku did not also came fron depths of hell. He approached Haesoo with intention. He may not be as bad as Joowon, but he's on another level. Tired of getting "they're step brother" and excuses like that, they were and now they ain't. Get your facts straight.
chile imma stop here. I haven't went shopping for a while so imma go. arguing with yall incest stans has been fun! if it's yalls lifestyle to sexualize and fantasize shit then okay. not normal but okay. just don't influence people with your disgusting point of views. yall are a danger to society. like seriously, yall are DISGUSTING
okay? and that hasn’t happened bc it’s in the future, you just said he is ‘holding him back’ when he hasn’t done anything currently
Seriously I recommend reporting the whole post or even the user. Because personal attacks, saying you are danger to society, disgusting, abnormal is disturbing.
I'm glad I ain't normal, I'll be weird than have the mindset like you .... next time use that SEXUALIZE word RIGHTTTTT , and have a nice day shopping I hope you get what your searching for ... don't go to sleep mad it's only a manhwa right !
Seriously smh. So if in some part of the world killing someone is considered ok we should approve of that? No.
Even Haesoo's mum starts to realise she was also in the wrong. But you can't grasp it.
And your simplistic "Joowon just a psycho who jumped on his step bro"? Once again I recommend rereading the story because you are making up the whole thing at this point.
And who said it's related to the story? It shows your level of you have to offend someone instead of making points based on the story.
Why are you acting as if it wasn’t mutual, as if they both didn’t play a part in it
" if I was a mom and found out my KIDS been FUCKING EACH OTHER this whole time I'd be shocked and give em a lesson too. DO U REALLY THINK THAT'S NORMAL?? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? and as if parents beating their kids up isnt normal like girl you're white aren't you? that's why you never experience a beating"
You literally said this.
Do you even understand what psychology means? Because after reading your replies I have doubts.
This author spends much of the story on portraying thoughts of characters, insight.
I think talking with that person is waste of time. They didn't make ONE logical argument. All they did was offending other users, making assumptions about them, calling them abnormal, freaks, danger to society, dumb etc. And the whole sexualising and fantasizing... Like?????
NOW CAN SOMEONE TRY AND EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT TF IS GOING ON? It's literally been a year I forgot what the story is all about lmao