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nah nit this time cause this time both of them wants it.

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Don’t compared this trash with shizu pls

Shizu is literally the same lmao, Hiragii was crying and saying that it was scary and this piece of shit is laughing at his face, being rough and manipualting him into believe that if he want to prove his feelings he need to consent to sex,
Its manipulation

They're not. Hiiragi was scared by shizu's face, and he never said to stop. They both wanted it, it was manipulation or anything. Even btw akihiko and haruki, it wasn't rape, in the actual Japanese one, he doesn't say to stop or no, he said to wait. Ppl fluent in Japanese also said this. There was no rape or manipulation or whateveer you call it btw the characters. Look up the actual correct translation for the scenes and you'll see.

Here's the link for the correct translation by a person who speaks fluent Japanese. https://twitter.com/marutsukete/status/1398125935690354688?s=19

no. if u read the chapter properly it was very very VERY obvious hiiragi was wanting to give himself to shizu. it was in NO WAY manipulation. u severely misunderstood this chapter. shizu actually asks hiiragi if it’s okay for him to continue multiple times and every time hiiragi says yes. hiiragi says it’s “scary” bec shizu never smiles like that. shizu was just so overwhelmed with emotions that he was smiling like that. the “no” and “wait” is literally meant as a shocked reaction or wanting to pause. it was 1000% consensual. ofc if you are just in general uncomfortable with this i completely understand but do not. say shizu was being manipulative and they were having nonconsensual sex. that’s just false

PUURRRRRRRRR

In multiple chapter Shizu was facing Hiiragi telling him that if he really loved him he should be okay with sex, of course at some point Hiiragi end up accepting do to the pressure of Shizu not acknowledging his feelings, Shizu should have talk with Hiiragi instead of asking him sex first thing, they aren't even dating yet, and saying "no";"wait" show that it was not consensual, i agree it was at first even if in my opinion it was still manipulation, Hiiragi was crying and was scared, i don"t care about the reason, shizu should have been gentle with him, he wasn't and he only checked on Hiiragi in the beggining, and even more he was slightly mocking him in the beggining saying he would cry like a baby, Hiiragi was also pushed by his pride, so he agree but he never once seem like he was enjoying it, just show me one moment, face or word that show he liked it,
there is none, because hiiragi was clearly pushed to do it. It wasn't even a sweet and gentle first time, it was disgusting

"I'm going to add a tiny warning here. This is clearly consensual, but Hiiragi's afraid of this sudden look on Shizu's face that he's never seen, and starts freaking out.
In the upcoming panels, he says "no" and "wait" but never actually asks Shizu to "stop," and the scene continues. This isn't seen as nonconsensual or troublesome in Japanese media until clear indication that one party is upset comes in, but if that bothers you, please stop here! " https://twitter.com/marutsukete/status/1398126817794433026?s=19
If you still find him disgusting and say it's rape then leave and stop reading and stop complaining, no one is forcing you to read. Shizu told hiiragi that he's going to have sex with him if he truly has feelings for him bc he wants hiiragi to make sure it's actually romantic love and not just friendship, that he'd be able to date him and eventually have sex with him. You don't have sex with someone you only feel friendship towards. And even when hiiragi asked him to have sex he tried to deny hiiragi, the latter was the one who kept pushing so that shizu would acknowledge his feelings. And yes it's true he shouldn't have been so rough for his first time. And you can't tell if hiiragi is enjoying it bc it's shounen ai and the author won't include the rest if the scene. So if you don't like shizu or akihiko then ur welcome to leaveヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

you’re very wrong. again. all i have to tell u is that it is consensual there is no if ands or buts…the author wrote it to be consensual. it is consensual. hii ravi was the first one to want sex. please reread the chapter. hii ravi is very willing to give himself to shizu,,shizu was NOT the one that asked for sex first?? ofc they are not dating yet? they JUST confessed…have u not been paying attention? i seriously suggest u reread the past few chapters that showed hiiragis thought process. it’s actually a very beautiful moment for them.
but again, if it makes u uncomfortable so be it, i understand that but i just want you to know that is in fact consensual. once again, do not spread false information. especially something as severe as that.

sorry hiiragi* autocorrect （￣へ￣）

ok..idk why but my recent reply to this is not showing? so let me just summarize and say again, it is consensual. idk what else to tell u dude maybe try reread the recent chaps especially hiiragi realizing his love for shizu..it is consensual i don’t know what else to say bec at the end of the day the author wrote it to be consensual. and it’s clear to be consensual, UNLESS the “no” and “wait” i can completely understand, everyone has their own pov on that and can take it as they will but it is consensual. i really have no idea what you’re going on about it just makes no sense? i think u should try understanding it a bit more bc the story is deeper than that and their emotions are more passionate than that.

I think basically he just accepted that they are meant to be together

But what about the hands ? Are those hands just their imagination and they are the ones that killed those people ?

They are real but idk how .they really died

i'll explain the whole plot but if you dont want to understand it feel free to not read this whole comment
also if you havent finished it spoiler alert...






so its about two kids tae joon and jung yeon woo.
tae joon is an orphan kid whilst
jung yeon is a kid who has strict parents
now joon became friends with jung, but jungs parents didn't like that so everytime jung misbahaves they would put him in a black room with a bunch of mirrors and a tv and they would make him watch horror movies in the tv until they decide its good enough.
that is the reason kid jun is such a wimp whilst
joon is really brave as a kid
and then one time this incident happened when jungs parents put both joon and jung into the black room. but only this time jung wasn't scared cuz joon is with him.
jungs parents didn't like the fact that jung wasn't scared and tried to get joon out of the black room. joon got annoyed at the fact that jungs parents were trying to ruin their fun and wished that jung and him was just alone...then the incident accured...jungs parents died all because of jung and joon wishing they were alone.
hands just ripped jungs parents limbs and body parts...now that jungs parents were dead jungs aunt and ucle had to take care of him. joon and jung were being seperated.
in jungs side his aunt and ucle died from a car crash and he survived being the young him he thought that he could just run back to korea...
in joons side everybody was talking about him and how he was in the incident parents were saying they didn't want there kids being close to joon and most of joons friend hating him joon having a phobia that makes him hate the felling of lonelines tried to forget it all and lucky him he succided though the reflection on the mirrors never stoped he though to himself he conviced himself that they were just illusions...

fast forward in time joon was training to be a police officer
while jung was a popular faceless writer. the reason jung became a writer is for joon he wanted joon to find him ruh roh joon doesn't remmember him

while joon was looking for an apartment while on a drinking party? (is dat wat u call does) after the drinking party was done joon was walking around and happen to be walking infront of jungs childhood home the jung saw him and happy jung thought that the reason he was there was because of jung(spoiler alert: it was not)
jung finding out joon was not there for him got upset and was going inside of house
joon wanting to remmember his past(how ironic)made up an exuse and then they were roomates(▰˘◡˘▰) anyways yada yada joon remmembers a little bit. then jung puts a ciggarets in joons classmate yada yada joon became a baddie (mwah grrrr) (if you dont know what mwah grrrr means search on youtube or tiktok how to be a baddie its just a kid being a kid) anyways yahh omg joon the honor student bacame a baddie (oh yeah i forgot to tell you joon is an honor student) anyways joon and jung doing "it" everyday then both of them got into a fight cuz of joon profeser who is thingking jung is the culprite. anyways jung and joon got into a fight joon asked if jung was the culprit jung says yes joon pikachu face then joon confesses and jung doesn't care joon gets upset thing jung doesn't like him back then moves away.
jung also upset cuz he doesn't like joon he loves him （￣へ￣）jung is so upset now that he gets drunk and smashes the bottle
anyways the profeser is a bad guy using joon as a tool yada yada
jung wants to see joon again and suprise its joons bday so
jung comes up with a plan to kill everyone joon hates uncluding the profeser and joons friends (friends meaning fake friends) all while having sex with joon in the black room, also yay joon finally opens the black room, so yeah jung succeded and while having sex with joon kills all of the people he invited and spoiler alert joon got his memory back and doesn't care that a lot of people died and is most concered of the fact that he is naked
then jung and joon moves to a new house they also didn't clean the house so yeah... thats basicly it if youre asking what does mirror shadows are in park of the black room the hands are also part of the black room if you have anymore questions...uhhhh feel free to ask them (=・ω・=)

in a literal sense of their creation, the hands are something the boys 'created' or brought out out of fear semes parents. Since they were so young and vulnerable these 'demons' had manipulated them by killing the parents and forcing the mindset that they should stay only together, the world is too cruel and the demons will allow them to live fully, therefore those who are good deserve to have their lives taken away ect.

The hands throughout the story really just symbolises the boys dark desires, when they were young it was their desire to be together, to be alone and to 'love' one another (i say 'love' since i don't think they ever had enough experience to truly understand that feeling, therefore this is why i think their relationship has always been pretty volatile and manipulative). When they grew older the semes desire to possess the uke, to allow him to 'understand and accept' himself and each other as they had promised when they were younger was what the new dark desires where (the majority of the plot), therefore the hands helped him through acts of control like sex, comfort, violence.

the hands were literally a guiding hand (all puns intended lol) to bringing out human malice. It seems like that's the what hands entire purpose of being is, if separating from the boys desire. I mean you only see the hands in scenes of control, which can be seen as malicious acts from the seme since it is viewed by normal people as toxic/abusive/controlling.

The only time uke seems to be in control of the hands was in the end when he finally fully gave into his desires, allowing malice and pleasure to take over. His wish for everyone to leave and tp be alone obviously being done by the hands. One of the boys (probs seme) forced the master *through hands* to watch them have sex as a way of showing dominance and power, showing him that seme had won. Or in their minds 'love'

also end chapter we see the hands/demons 'true form' aka the boys conjoined body and ukes face

Final points:
- hands = malice
- was created out of fear
- used as a tool for control
- hands = most probably a demon rip
(￣∇￣")

also the hands WERE a physical entity so hands killed the guests, they are all very much dead. (⊙…⊙ ). i say were cause last chapter shows the conjoining of the demonic being with the boys

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