“I want this app”
Ok, you fucking weirdo, lmfao
Cause they’re horny! We’re all here to enjoy sexual content of some sort! What are you doing here then? Why did you read this sexual fantasy up until the point you scrolled the comments to see who you could pick out and scold for their lack of ethics in porn? Porn! It’s porn! That’s it, it’s a fictitious sexual fantasy and it’s literally never going to become real. But some people might use the idea in role plays with consenting partners, but they really don’t need to explain that to some random on the internet now do they?
Excusing what’s happening by making the claims “Soo-Young only wanted him to stop because the feeling was new to him” or “He’d never felt such pleasure before, he’s being over stimulated” is ridiculous. The only way I’ll buy into this “no actually means keep going” BS you guys are on is if there is a safe-word in use, which, there clearly isn’t. This is the most obvious case of irony, where the viewer/reader is aware of something other characters are not. We may be aware of the exact reason Soo-Young is saying stop, but Tae-Seung doesn’t.
Nobody is saying you’re not allowed to read Manhwa that incorporates rape or uses a rape trope, it’s the romanticizing of it that matters. You cannot have read this chapter, where Soo-Young tells Tae-Seung to stop multiple times, and come out of it thinking this isn’t rape. Did you read some sort of secret, exclusive version of the chapter that no one else did? Nobody but Soo-Young can hear his internal monologue. When he heard the word “stop”, Tae-Seung should have stopped what he was doing and waited for the green light.
Which he didn’t, he took advantage of Soo-Young’s uncertainty and kept going despite constantly being told to stop. The rules of rape are not magically changed just because it takes place in a fictional world.
You’re really passionate about this huh? You’ve been responding to literally everyone. I *never* said nobody is allowed to read manga/hwa that incorporates rape. But you cannot excuse/make lite of it because it’s “hot steamy sex” in your eyes. I do not care if you read it, I care if you romanticize it and/or make it out to be anything other than what it is— rape.
Gurl, you clearly has no idea about Japan porn industry and the whole hentai thing. It's not just for run but for pleasuring people who have "weird" fantasy that they can't fulfill it in real life. Either because it's impossible or they know it's wrong and they can't do it.
Yes, Rape is wrong and liking it makes you one of the worst people living on earth. But some people do get turned on about it.
People have weird tings they love, and some people have it on sexual ways.
I personally know someone who love old dudes. Not 40s, 50s, but 70 y.o with all wrinkles.
She can't really be with 70+ y.o, so she watches Japan porn with this whole "grandpa-young girl" type of videos.
You never heard about people who are really obsessed with thriller novels that filled with brutal murders?
They love it.
Will they ever do it? Hell no.
Any human being with who still have their sanity know what's right and wrong.
They know bounderies.
People who easily judged someone for having weird/wrong doings FANTASY, y'all need to open yourself to different kinds of people.
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And your opinion isn't relevant to the that IT'S FICTION/FANTASY.
You're making it as if people don't have weird/scary fantasy. They do.
Just because you never met people like that in real life, probably because most of them hiding it afraid of being judged by society, doesn't mean they don't exist.
You're trying to relate one thing to real life situation but you completely ignored another side of that real life situation.
What a joke.
From where do you think Korean manhwa with this whole "hentai" theme from? Japan porn industry.
Before Kpop wave started back in 2010, popular Asian culture and market is from Japan.
It influences deep in many Asian countries especially Korea and China.
Do you want me to give you another long explanation about culture influence in neighboring countries?
I don’t care if you read it. I care if you romanticize it, which is clearly what most people in the comments are doing. I don’t care what sick and twisted fetish you have, if you’re openly excusing rape and passing it off as ‘hot sex’ you’re a weirdo, and I’m gonna say something. Again, your point is irrelevant to the fact that it’s rape.
LOL again
This person clearly don't know the difference between FICTION and REAL LIFE, and completely out of touch with different society.
Rambo has a big fan base when most of his actions are KILLING PEOPLE. People think he's hot. So romanticize him romanticize killer?
That applies for many other "hot actors" that play roles as killers.
I don't care if you live secluded and didn't grasp that people have their fantasy, if you cherry pick real life case, completely shame people because you think people should be the same, you're an idiot.
Again, you completely IGNORE the FACTS THAT I STATED ABOVE, which RELATED TO how you perceive people in their own mind with actual crimes which is ridiculous.
And that makes you an ignorant.
You can keep living in bubble and shaming "weirdo", but expect to be called out.
People who couldn't grasp full reality and just thinking things as black and white, which clearly you are, should just stay away from Yaoi if you're gonna criticize everything.
Very typical.
Thinking their mindset should be everyone mindset and have this "bad culture should not be kept, rape in Yaoi should be vanished".
Gurl, just go.
You're not welcomed in this community.
Go back to your bubble and be a hero for your own little wolrd.
you keep writing these paragraphs as if it has any impact on what I'm saying. you saying "well some people like that stuff" doesn't change that its rape. And you keep putting words in my mouth. I never said you're not allowed to reap rape tropes, I said I have a problem with people romanticizing it. Openly, at that. You're bringing nothing of substance to the table.
Just to give you some slap of reality, especially in Yaoi/Hentai/Smut community.
You're criticizing elements that made this whole genre, fantasy/fiction/something that's impossible or not accepted in real life they bring it in the story.
LOL, as if you openly have a problem with that is gonna do anything to the community. It's not. If anything, it'll only spark a one-side argument and most people would likely to go agaisnt you.
LOL.
I bring you facts and some common sense.
If at this point you still don't get it and thinking my words were useless or irrelevant, congrats, that just prove my point that you're an idiot and ignorant.
Ever heard of a missionary who went to an isolated tribe to guide them to Jesus?
That's how it is with your idea against the community.
No matter how you think it's the right, it makes NO SENSE for the community.
I warned you.
You can keep believing in what you believe, but the keep it to your bubble.
This is the community, weirdos (according to you).
When 95% of the community are "weirdo" and only 5% "normal", the weirdos are not weirdos. The normal people are the weirdo.
Now, hush hush weirdo
It's ok because it's fiction. It's not okay in real life, that's why they put that on fiction.
If you're gonna play a "triggering trauma" card, there's a disclaimer in most of rape-scene or rape-based manga in recent years. And yes, some people out there get "excited" for those kind of things.
People can avoid it.
But no, instead of skip the manga and stop reading it, they decided to write an essay about how rape-themed manga is not right, people who enjoyed it is disgusting, bla bla bla.
I can't stand scenes where people piss during sex or on someone else's face, getting fisted, or double penetration, those kind of things. So I skipped those parts, and if that's a huge part of certain manga's storyline then I'll drop the manga.
It's that simple.
Did you even read all of my comments?
Here, I'll copas this for you:
"You never heard about people who are really obsessed with thriller novels that filled with brutal murders?
They love it.
Will they ever do it? Hell no."
"Rambo has a big fan base when most of his actions are KILLING PEOPLE. People think he's hot. So romanticize him romanticize killer?
That applies for many other "hot actors" that play roles as killers"
Romanticize killers, liking the murders or the killing scenes, those what you get from people who loves thriller movies/gore movies.
Yet I never see any reviews of people criticize the murder in murder themed movie, or criticize a fan base of actors who played the murderers.
And why would people think protesting about rape in fiction is just ridiculous?
Because they just focus on the word rape and throw away the word fiction.
And especially in the whole yaoi or hentai genre:
"You're criticizing elements that made this whole genre, fantasy/fiction/something that's impossible or not accepted in real life they bring it in the story."
You just embarrassing yourself right now.
I'll quote my comment again,
"Ever heard of a missionary who went to an isolated tribe to guide them to Jesus?
That's how it is with your idea against the community.
No matter how you think it's the right, it makes NO SENSE for the community."
That doesn't make sense for you?
Your argument obviously doesn't make sense for us :)
Lol, it took you it took you minutes to reply.
That means you don't even think about all my comments above explaining things from the history of Yaoi and Hentai, etc.
You're missing a a FICTION there honey.
Murdering culture is out there, many extremist cults do that.
No one justifying the rape.
Rape in real world is wrong.
But in a plot of a FICTION YAOI MANGA? That happens, in many ways, and that's okay.
Same with murder based movis/manga/novel.
They know it's part of the FICTION story, even the main story, and they like it because it's part of the plot.
Girl, you don't even understand the arguments above why tf are you meddling in? (≧∀≦)
If it's in FICTION and part of the plot, yes.
You didn't bring other crimes?
I'll help you.
-Kidnapping kids but they show it in a good light, is that okay because it's fiction? If that's part of the plot, then yes.
-Parents beating their kids but showing it in a good light, is that okay because it's fiction? If that's part of the plot, then yes.
-People stealing from rich people but they show it in a good light, is that okay because it's fiction? If that's part of the plot, then yes.
You still don't get it?
You think in murder movie or novels there's always heroes?
You clearly doesn't know dark novels or movies where killing means killing.
Ever read a novel called perfume? That's the example where a story doesn't have a hero The protagonist is the antagonist.
Again, no sane people justify the action.
They're amazed on how he do the murder and collecting that (I won't give you spoiler) and many admiring the character.
But that doesn't mean they will do the same if that happens in real life.
If at this point you still don't get it, I suggest you go to a library, asked a librarian for a book that explain about fiction.
Or just posted a question here and get people's opinion about the whole "Is it okay because it's fiction" thing.
NOT JUST RAPE.
I mentioned for the previous person, you can't cherry pick "crimes" in fiction because that makes you hypocrite.
Lmao.
Did you hear yourself saying that? You don't want a rape in a rape based story?
Lmao.
You judge the plot climax, character development, but judge the theme? lmao
So it's okay to shipping a dog with a human? Supernatural Yaoi have lots of stories like that.
So it's okay to shipping a serial killer with the victim? Many fiction stories are like that.
The list goes on.
Lol, I can't reply to you directly, Stardust.
I wonder why....lmao
Here my respond to you:
It's called your words against you.
That's what you get from focusing on one side and completely ignored the other.
Just focus on word rape but completely ignored the word fiction.
Calling people out for shipping rapist-victim IN FICTION story, but completely fine with people shipping killer-victim.
That's how narrow your way of comprehend things
My advice for you, just like the previous person: Don't read what you're not comfortable with or against your morality when it's clearly fiction). And don't call people out if you don't want to get called out, don't mocked people if you don't want to get mocked as well.
Now, hush hush (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
This comment section reminds me of why I hate fujoshis
my opinion on fujoshis really changed in a whole year, i used to like them, then went into their spaces and felt discriminated against, fetishized, and more. it's very disgusting
Yhea the whole "fujoshi" term within itself has to do with fetishizing mlm... Like no one cares if you're a girl that likes bl or yaoi, just don't use that term for yourself, and if someone tries to call you out for some shit, then LISTEN. you can't Jack off to the same ppl who you clearly don't actually care about or even support.
yeah, surprisingly, lots of fujos think they’re supporting mlm by reading yaoi. yikes.
The disrespect i get on here from fujos is uncalled for, i coud literally talk about pedophilia, and here they come talking about ' it also happens in straight love, ur raging sexist man' like ok?? who cares.
Yo what? That's pretty wild. Yaoi doesn't have any corelation with real life gay people.