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i mean if he ends up with yahwi then yes lol
but if he ends up with cain it would kinda pay off all the suffering we all had reading this manhwa for the oast 3 years

how do you read there? i can't read the chapters ┗( T﹏T )┛

I wasn't able to read it unfortunately

You have to make an NU account to be able to click on the chapter links! ^^

tried it but it wont accept any of my emails :(((

oh! idk what's going on there, but here's the site n TL'er NU has linked :] https://system707.com/category/the-villain-who-became-pregnant-with-the-alphas-child/

fr a life saver tysm!!

feels like sht dude

I think it because the character is hot that people ignore the actions of the character

fr like even if they're gonna continue reading it, they should at least admit that it's rape instead of deluding themselves just so they don't feel guilty.

First to the main post many comments do call him out and I don’t see any deny criminal behavior.

Chuuya, you talked to Tora. You knew he told you there was no rape. Tora is a straight married man that was asked to.analyze this. Rose, rape survivor, hated the story, said it was not rape. I don’t think it is because of the how hot a character is.

Coco puffs. You see rape. We should not be forced in your pov. If you read carefully rape is not supported in the story. It comes close. It is SA. He is violent. He threatens. He slams him on the bed and pushes his face in the pillows. Just because we say there is not rape doesn’t mean we are denying or ignoring his criminal behavior.

I read rape stories. This is no rape. There is no deluding myself to feel less guilty. There is no deluding with Tora or Rose to feel less guilty.

Go read stories with rape and then come back.

Hogu Hagyeongsu - rape
Kiraide Isasete - rape
Caste haven - rape
Mob for Jack - rape
Maki-chan wa Kare to Sex Shitai - rape
falling alpha enigma the fourth bath - rape
harami bara - rape
abarenbo_honey - rape
Under grand hotel - rape

Jinx- isn’t rape. If It is rape, it is a kid’s version.

Stop the manipulative and fallacious arguments to force your POV on others.

Frr they get so mad and u can’t say shit or else they’ll say “Then stop reading it” or “your not even paying for it” like bitch shut ur bitch ass up we can say our opinions if we want- Like just say ur trying to justify his actions, is not hard ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

I can tell ur just gonna argue and that’s just gonna be a waste of my time but let me tell u what I said

“Like u said it comes close to rape he doesn’t want to but feels like it’s mandatory due to it being a contract like in chapter 8 Feeling pressured that he has to since it’s the condition for the money. As for Joo’s actions - he’s a piece of shit and there’s no excusing that. Just Seeing my boy Dan as a toy - but who knows maybe a huge character development might happen soon”

Like u said it’s sa- but that’s not any better - maybe some people are using the wrong term here but there opinions aren’t any less then yours, yes correct them on both terms, educate them-

But I do meant that people are forgiving him easily just because he’s hot- you can have ur own opinions on it idgaf but these are just mine, if you haven’t been to TikTok a lot of people comment that- yes the character is hot but just because of that they are willing to forgive his actions- that’s what I was talking about

So I don’t need you to come educate me and bring this shit like “you knew he told you there was no rape” like bitch I never once brought it up I was just talking about how people that forgive him easily

Anyways that’s all thank you ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

Honestly as someone who reads seinen,Shoujo and josei in all of those genres you find people who either deny that it's rape or don't care that it's rape just bc it's an attractive person who did it

bro whatever drug you're taking........I want a slight dose of it...only a slight or else I will turn braindead like you and I still want to have a sense of self

I am not on here to argue so don’t make judgements. What is with the rudeness. What not gave a conversation a change because some people maybe genuine. I actually hate arguing.

You were talking about how hot a character was. That was a jump. That was your response to Tora. Look you judged me and you did not see me for me. Are you sure you are not doing the same for Joo? Yes he tries him like a toy but …. Have you looked deeper? Tora didn’t reply because he wasn’t sure if you would listen to him and he was debating it because a situation was happening on here and real life happen. This page seems really closed-minded. You gave me and Joo no room to be anything but your opinion. I think if I wrote “okay”. You would see me as arguing and a waste of time. I am trying to show you I am not. I don’t know why you judged me so harshly.
I just read the story carefully.

I am not justifying sa. I am not dismissing anyone opinions.
I am trying to learn from Tora and keep my opinions out of. When I said it is SA. It is not my opinion. Would you stop making things that isn’t my opinion, my opinion. Tora is right it is frustrating.

“- you can have ur own opinions on it idgaf but these are just mine, “. You must had misunderstood my comment.
There has been somethings said that was unnecessary. I don’t say you could have that opinion. My comment to you was sharing there are other reasons. I didn’t share an opinion to you. I don’t even consider your comment an opinion. I seen it as a reason but you made it the only reason. I was sharing information with you. I was adding to your list of reasons. I was not taking away your reason. My last sentence to you was about their reasons not debunking your reason. There are many more reasons than those three reasons.

I have not been on TikTok but I know what you are talking about. I seen it here but I think you misunderstood.


“So I don’t need you to come educate me and bring this shit like “you knew he told you there was no rape” like bitch I never once brought it up I was just talking about how people that forgive him easily “.

If that is how you interpreted my comment and how you treated people I feel sorry for you. You misunderstood and got defensive. Can you have a civil conversation? I was adding reasons. I came to educate you? You really misjudged me.

Stop smoke and seek professional help.

I corrected that. Huh? lol
Stop smoking and seek professional help.

“you judged me and you did not see me for me” well no shit I don’t even know you

“Yes he tries him like a toy but …. Have you looked deeper?” - girl it’s a story it ain’t something deep it’s literally part of his character development so please stop with this bs of giving “joo no room but my opinion” - cause if I’m being honest with you, you sound hella dumb.

Plus I’ll like to correct you in one thing I never said that you saying sa was your opinion or an opinion- all I said was it still didn’t justify his action but to correct people of the differences between sa and rape and actually educate them on what’s going on in the story - where I did say you can have your opinion was on the fact that people were forgiving him for being hot- that was it

I really don’t get what you don’t understand- and what reasons are you exactly talking about because you’ve been giving me the same reasons- and also please stop talking about tora I don’t even know who they are

And please don’t feel sorry for me. If im being honest I actually feel sad for you for spending your time in the comments and doing nothing but argue… we’ll not argue you said you didn’t like to argue

I get that you’re trying to correct people but you commenting and trying to change their minds won’t do any change - there will always be people saying something and arguing about it. Plus it’s just a story we don’t gotta make it out whole personality right?

And I actually do want to apologize for being rude in my first comment. I used a lot of cuss words which made me sound horrible so I do apologize:))

Anyways this is my last time I will be talking to you or reading anything from you so have a lovely day ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

Even if people anna be in denial and saynits not raoe ghey do realise prostitution is illegal is korea right? Legit yall need to stop lying to yourselfs

“you judged me and you did not see me for me” well no shit I don’t even know you “

Don’t judge

“I get that you’re trying to correct people”
FALSE

“but you commenting and trying to change their minds”

FALSE

Accusations
Gaslighting

“Plus it’s just a story we don’t gotta make it out whole personality right?”

Defending how people were treated isn’t anything about the story. I am a victim of cyber bullying. You have took the cyber bullying POV on me.


“And I actually do want to apologize for being rude in my first comment. I used a lot of cuss words which made me sound horrible so I do apologize:))”

In my comments to the cyber bullies. I used many mocking them as they said it is fun. I don’t see the appeal. I feel cringe. I understand.

I have those stories I know they have rape in them, but just because the rape in those serious are much more blatant and aggressive, doesn't make the rape in Jinx non existent. The shit Joo does falls under the legal definition of rape, whether you like it or not. It isn't an opinion, it's fact. Whether you like or dislike doesn't matter to me, but let's call it what it is.

That's true, but I feel like BL fans are much more worse when it comes to this thing. Shoujo girlie's, at least from my experience, are able to acknowledge a male lead is toxic / abusive / rapey but simp for them nonetheless. BL fans just deny it for some reason.

Yeah, it's just so odd. Like is this the hill you really wanna die on? Defending a rapist? Like, the least you could do is just acknowledge it and continue reading it as a guilty pleasure or something

Lol, fair point

Hi, please can you explain further on why you saw rape in Jinx. I really and genuinely want to understand and I hope we can converse professionally.

Your pov is it rape. If you pay attention to the details the story does not share your pov, whether you like it or not.

You can see it as rape but that is your opinion. It is your opinion. The fact is the story has no rape. Let’s call it want it is. Don’t force me into your pov when I know the story says otherwise. It is SA and abuse. Dan consented and agreed to a contract. Get all the details. Stop cherry picking to your pov.

I think I need to start being like this.

I am a bit defensive. I been a victim of cyber bullying for like 3 -4 days now.

So yes “ please can you explain further on why you saw rape in Jinx. I really and genuinely want to understand and I hope we can converse professionally.”

And we will explain how it is not

https://florinroebig.com/sexual-assault-guide/

“ Rape is a form of sexual assault. However, not all forms of sexual assault will be considered rape. ”

Sure, firstly let put the definition of rape according to The Practical Guide to Humanitarian Law:

"Rape is the act of obliging an individual to have sexual intercourse against his or her will, using force, violence, or any other form of coercion. It is considered a felony in the criminal law systems of most countries. Rape may occur between people of the same sex, as well as of opposite sexes."

So, when I'm saying Joo is rapist it is based off not only most countries definition of rape. But also international law. Now, I'll demonstrate a few instances where he rapes mc.

Firstly, in chapter 3, after mc was panicking in the shower, Joo drags mc out of the shower and throws him on bed. When mc states, he can't do it, Joo says in response and I quote:

"If you waste my time like the last little bitch, don't expect to be sent home safe and sound."

Referring to when in chapter to 2, when he slammed the guy he was sleeping with against the wall and threatened to harm him if he doesn't leave.

Not only does Mc saying he can't do suffice enough as example of Joo raping him. Joo threatening him falls right under international definition of rape under the "using corceion" clause.

Throughout the experience, mc internally mentions he hates it and wants it to be over quick. He also frequently mentions that it hurts and he wants it to stop - that doesn't sound like a willing participant at all.

To put the nail in the coffin, Joo threatens mc with violence again saying he will smash his head in if he keeps testing his patience. He also uses physical force in this scene.

Note: I could also mention how in two chapters before, how Joo basically called the mc to come to his house and "work" overtime, luring him with false pretenses which is very dubious in its own right. That alone isn't necessarily rape, but when combined with what happened in chapter, it is extremely rapey.

Sure, firstly let put the definition of rape according to The Practical Guide to Humanitarian Law:

"Rape is the act of obliging an individual to have sexual intercourse against his or her will, using force, violence, or any other form of coercion. It is considered a felony in the criminal law systems of most countries. Rape may occur between people of the same sex, as well as of opposite sexes."

So, when I'm saying Joo is rapist it is based off not only most countries definition of rape. But also international law. Now, I'll demonstrate a few instances where he rapes mc.

Firstly, in chapter 3, after mc was panicking in the shower, Joo drags mc out of the shower and throws him on bed. When mc states, he can't do it, Joo says in response and I quote:

"If you waste my time like the last little bitch, don't expect to be sent home safe and sound."

Referring to when in chapter to 2, when he slammed the guy he was sleeping with against the wall and threatened to harm him if he doesn't leave.

Not only does Mc saying he can't do suffice enough as example of Joo raping him. Joo threatening him falls right under international definition of rape under the "using corceion" clause.

Throughout the experience, mc internally mentions he hates it and wants it to be over quick. He also frequently mentions that it hurts and he wants it to stop - that doesn't sound like a willing participant at all.

To put the nail in the coffin, Joo threatens mc with violence again saying he will smash his head in if he keeps testing his patience. He also uses physical force in this scene.

Note: I could also mention how in two chapters before, how Joo basically called the mc to come to his house and "work" overtime, luring him with false pretenses which is very dubious in its own right. That alone isn't necessarily rape, but when combined with what happened in chapter, it is extremely rapey.

Sure, firstly let put the definition of rape according to The Practical Guide to Humanitarian Law:

"Rape is the act of obliging an individual to have sexual intercourse against his or her will, using force, violence, or any other form of coercion. It is considered a felony in the criminal law systems of most countries. Rape may occur between people of the same sex, as well as of opposite sexes."

So, when I'm saying Joo is rapist it is based off not only most countries definition of rape. But also international law. Now, I'll demonstrate a few instances where he rapes mc.

Firstly, in chapter 3, after mc was panicking in the shower, Joo drags mc out of the shower and throws him on bed. When mc states, he can't do it, Joo says in response and I quote:

"If you waste my time like the last little bitch, don't expect to be sent home safe and sound."

Referring to when in chapter to 2, when he slammed the guy he was sleeping with against the wall and threatened to harm him if he doesn't leave.

Not only does Mc saying he can't do suffice enough as example of Joo raping him. Joo threatening him falls right under international definition of rape under the "using corceion" clause.

Throughout the experience, mc internally mentions he hates it and wants it to be over quick. He also frequently mentions that it hurts and he wants it to stop - that doesn't sound like a willing participant at all.

To put the nail in the coffin, Joo threatens mc with violence again saying he will smash his head in if he keeps testing his patience. He also uses physical force in this scene.

Note: I could also mention how in two chapters before, how Joo basically called the mc to come to his house and "work" overtime, luring him with false pretenses which is very dubious in its own right. That alone isn't necessarily rape, but when combined with what happened in chapter, it is extremely rapey.

So you're saying the first scene is rape or the full story and all the scenes is rape. Rectify please.

So I can also give my points. Thanks.

I'm talking about the first scene at the moment

At the moment? I don't get.

So you only see rape in the first scene right?

I'm saying I'm just talking about the first scene at the moment, not the whole series. Especially since I dropped it around chapter 10. But I don't see how me talking about the beginning changes anything since my entire point is that Joo is rapist.

“I read rape stories” umm why would someone read stories like that? You’ve established that this story isn't a “rape story” and thats not what people are saying. Their just talking about the fact that just because the character is attractive or some shit like that, it doesn’t mean they should be forgiven for their actions. Thats the end, if you don’t understand something so simple as that or don’t agree then don't comment because ur just annoying at this point. And reading rape stories isn't something cool, just keep ur random kinks to yourself. Why name stories like that to “educate a person on what rape looks like” you could have just put the definition of the word thats it, its even gross that you know so many stories like that.

Thank you mane

Hello, I hope you really read everything. I know it's super long but I really and genuinely want to understand you. Please thanks.

Anyway, my points;

I completely get what you're saying, hundred percent understand. I understand that consent can never be when it is coerced. Very true. I understand was rape is but it is NOT in this story. How?

You are forgetting that Dan LIED that he was experienced. That is also a loss on his part. In chapter 2, jk lured Dan to come to his home which was wrong and I admit, I'm not defending the guy. Dan found out that jk was gay for sleeping with men and when the whore insulted jk, jk smashed the guy’s head because he doesn't play with his jinx and the championship. And then jk led Dan to his room and analyses Dan. I'm sure in his mind and his expression at that moment, he thought dan was attractive. When Dan starts with the physical therapy, Jk explains to Dan about his jinx and Dan found that embarrassing but he didn't judge the guy. Until jk admits that he wants SEX with Dan. That's when Dan freaks out entirely. Dan refuses saying he couldn't do such that he was here for only the therapy then jk gets blunt with the whole situation and it triggers Dan to rethink over jk’s offer. Jk was calm, his intention wasn't to threaten him and i confirmed it from here when he says,

“I guess you don't need that 5,000 grand then.” Jk goes to grab his phone to call one of his other whores he can fuck to replace Dan. Dan then rethinks and finally decides to accept the offer because money was all he needed.

Mind you, JK did NOT know about the financial situation Dan was in. This point proves Dan consented the first time without any form of THREAT or COERCION.

Note: an agreement is an agreement, backing out is annoying especially when you and your partner had already concluded.

-chapter 3, By the time Dan agrees, jk asks Dan if he has experience, he didn't have to lie but he chose to, why? Because it was embarrassing to admit that he was a virgin at such age? No. He said it not with that intention, but just to lie( read it carefully) And Jk says,

“Since you're experienced, I guess I don't need to go EASY on you then”

That's when the roughness starts and Dan says “One second!” and jk DID stop(this also proves that he isn't inhuman and does cares about dan’s feelings-also proves he's not a rapist). Dan then says he needs to wash off the oil from him or something(cant remember). In the showers, Dan rethinks and starts to have second thoughts-after he had agreed? He knew jk would have found that quite annoying and the fact that he had consented first was also a dead one on his part. Jk then forces Dan out of the bathroom because he was in the bath for over an hour and it was quite late for jk to be having sex presuming he had to sleep well and be lively for the match. Dan knew this, HE is NOT a child.

Dan sees jk’s massive size and starts freaking out and simply says “I can't do it” and in his thoughts he also said “if he puts that thing inside me, I might die” which is understandable. Jk gets annoyed because they had come this far and says out of annoyance, “you think this is funny? You think I'm some sort of joke? If you waste my time like that last guy did don't expect to be sent home safe and sound” Jk’s intention was never to threaten him. He simply needed a fuck and Dan was being weird and unserious about it when he had agreed. Jk found that extremely annoying because he doesn't play with his jinx and dan was simply wasting his time especially when he had said that he was experienced.

Dan feels threatened but you can't say “Jk threatened and forced Dan” look at the expressions of them carefully in that chapter and then analyse the dialogues. Dan then says in his thoughts, “Right, I had already agreed. I can do this. It's the money afterall” He consented a second time and says “ but if you just put it in like that I think it's going to tear” and jk considers this, sighs and tells him “you can get yourself ready then” another point that proves he isn't a rapist.

He even adds “ This is your last chance, no more Mr nice guy after this” He specifies that it was Dan’s last chance and he even decides to add again, “If even this is too much for you, then just GET THE FUCK OUT.”

Lmao.

That is another point that proves that he notified and made Dan aware of it, he gacmve dan an opportunity to leave that specific moment but no, Dan still chose to stay because of the MONEY. Thank you, thank you very much.

When dan finally consents, jk adds, “You tell me to put it in and then clench up so tight I can't even do it.” Another point that proves he isn't a rapist. Dan lied that he was experienced and jk was unaware of the lie.

He even adds, “You think this is funny, don't say one thing and then do another.” My God how do you people not see this?

Jk then pushes in completely which leaves dan shaken, jk notices how dan was shaking and turns the guy to see he was crying and then says, “What the...are you crying? Over that? I barely even put it in.” All his sex partners must have been experienced, so he clearly assumed that Dan would also take it well.

Dan himself then says, “N-no, that's not...why...y-you just...startled me.” That was what dan said and jk says “Good grief” Another point that he is in fact considerate and doesn't does what he wants. He even adds with a neutral expression, “Youre not gonna start whining again, are you?” he said this not in a way to mock him but to be sure that he was okay.

And then dan says, “ n-no I can do this” and jk does his rough behaviour because Dan was sulking and it was making Jk annoyed and anxious, jk then drags Dan by the hair and says, “then at least breath properly” another point that he cares for the dude and has human sympathy. But he was still oblivious to the way Dan was trying to endure. He didn't know.

Just because it looks like it, doesn't mean it is. An action can look like rape and the next changes it completely. It might look like it but their dialogues, expressions and reactions changes it entirely.

I hope we can finally understand each other. And know that, assuming Dan did not lie that he was experienced, we all know things could have turned out differently because I mean why did jk ask Dan in the first place if he was experienced? He wanted to know if he could treat him like one of his whores and dan gave that consent so he has face it and take it because he approved of it just because of the money.

Jk did not coerce Dan, look at it from his part and understand both of their povs. The reason why you all are seeing jk as a monster is because most of it is in Dan’s pov.

Jk has helped dan in many ways, paid all his debts, accompanies and even has a gist with his grandma thereby making a good talk with her, he saves Dan from those Loan sharks( the real rapists), he allows dan to live in his house, he feeds and let's him have all he wants and all he asked for and needed was sex, NOT RAPE.

Anyone who isn't able to understand this points clearly has a disability in reading and understanding a context.

Thanks, please give your points to oppose, thanks for your patience.

Dan lying that he was experienced doesn't change the fact that Joo raped him. Throughout the entire experience, Dan is not only wanting the whole ordeal to be over, he later has nightmares because of what happened to him which is common for people who have been raped / sa.

You also mentioned that Dan says he can do this and that Joo didn't use corceion, but he physically threatened to harm twice during that scene. And Dan before the rape scene happened, knows that Joo will get physical with someone if he is angry. So, I think you are ignoring a huge part of subtext here which frames the scene.

Communication is more than just what a person says, it is their body language and other non-verbal cues. Someone can say they are "doing okay" while they are literally crying and have a bruise - obviously that person isn't okay.

Likewise, Dan may say "he can do this" but he is both crying during this, told Joo that he couldn't do it with him and told him to stop and wait multiple times. But Joo just did it anyway. He wasn't ignorant, he just didn't care. Dan told him he didn't want to do it anymore and Joo responding by threatening physical harm (TWICE may i add) - that is enough to say it is rape.


You mentioned that we should look at him from both pov, but that is pretty irrelevant since looking at Joo pov doesn't change what he did. For example, if you stab someone, looking at it from perspective of person who did the stabbing doesn't change that someone is stabbed.

Likewise, looking at it from Joo perspective doesn't change the fact that Dan told Joo that he no longer wanted to do it - that he changed his mind but Joo threatened him and proceeded to do it anyway.

You didn't read what I said well.

Dan lying that he was experienced has EVERY thing to do with how jk treated him. It has EVERYTHING to do with it. DO NOT IGNORE THAT.

Joo didn't threaten Dan! You didn't read what I said. Jk did not even “mean” to threaten him likewise, he didn't even know his words came as a threat to someone who claimed to be experienced. DO NOT IGNORE THST ALSO.

You're talking about communication but the author did not WRITE and DRAW it that way. Body language? jk noticed every little action of Dan but it is Dan who chose to lie that he was okay, ensuring himself that he was only doing this because he needed the money.

Jk noticed how Dan cried but Dan claimed that jk just startled him! Jk was clearly oblivious if go noticed how the author drew and wrote it. There are people who fail to identify body language in real life. It's just like when a person cannot know when they are making another person uncomfortable except if that person indicates it or lie about it!

Jk cared and if you're saying otherwise then everyone on earth doesn't have human sympathy.

Looking at something from both povs can NEVER be irrelevant. Goodness, are you this wicked? I can't believe you just compared stabbing to something that isn't even RAPE.

Yes judge, I told him to put it in
Yes judge I agreed to the contract.
Yes judge he didn't mean to threaten me because he gave me an opportunity to leave afterwards.

Once again, you failed to read well and are ignoring many dialogues in the story.

If this was to be investigated, all actions and occurrences would be highly considered but you fail to notice and decide to ignore just because they proved your point wrong.

Once again, jk cannot see Dan’s thoughts. WE, the readers SEE IT. That's why you all say it's rape because of Dan’s thoughts. And also, many scenes are written in Dan’s pov that's why you all see jk as a complete monster.

Jk is an asshole but he isn't a rapist. Keep that in mind.

You also talk about how experience doesn't change it. My dear, it does completely because jk specifically asked Dan if he was experienced. Have you wondered why jk asked?? We all know that if Dan didn't lie, things would have turned out differently. Bffr.

I advise you to reread Chapter 3. Thank you. (read and look closely)( and don't come up with theories the author NEVER intended).

Have a good rest.

THIS!!! But she’s to dumb to understand lol

Bless your heart

Oh dear! Try again.
Bless your heart

I don’t see it much of a comeback and TMSM, he will rip it to pieces. It is not the win you think.

He is not you. You could not understand him.

Thank you for sharing some thoughts. Some jumped to conclusions but first and foremost, I can differentiate from fantasy and reality. I get pissed off with reality. If I can’t do anything for the survivor or help capture the rapist, I turned the tv in frustration or quickly removed it from phone. Rape is hideous crime.

Fantasy is fake. People have always enjoyed reading these types of stories. Let move away . “The role played by erotic fiction and fantasy is an important one, says sexologist and director of Sexology Australia, Elaine George. "Erotic fiction, in particular, enables a woman to get carried away with her sense of imagination and imaginary play," she says. "That imaginary play can be with a lover. It can be with multiple lovers. And it can be inventing a scenario that enables her to become erotically charged. Someone can imaginary play to be with multiple lovers and never want that or condone it reality.
It is an escape from reality. These stories have exist and continues to grow. Rape is in the Bible. It seems common. I find it alarming you would ask me that.
Yes I have established this story isn’t that by the story.
Story vs thats not what people are saying. They are talking about opinions. character is attractive is not an argument for rape or not. “They should be forgiven for their actions.” Saying it is not rape does nothing of the sort. Rape is not apart of this story.
It is your pov or an insult on me. You called me annoying. You know your wrong. You said gross. You lost. You can’t handle yourself or a civil conversation.
I find it disturbing you don’t know how to search tags here on mangago. What is gross is how you treated me and forcing your pov.
Reading fantasy rape stories are common. Don’t degrade me on that. I name those stories so you know I know what rape is. However, you are degrading me for not seeing rape in jinx. How gross. Why should I ruined laughing at the trolls/cyber bullies that post that definition that literally debunks rape in this story but they treat it as gold thinking it proves it is.
All you did was show me your insecurities and my method in showing it is not rape, worked. Your comments are what is gross. That ain’t natural.

Debunked all. You said “she” talking about yourself??

Maybe change it to “she’s” to “I’m”.
How disturbing.

comeback? Its not one honey its called educating, and reading rape stories is disgusting, im not saying this story has rape but it does have SA which still falls in the same category. Just because it want rape doesn’t mean it was still okay and i am so glad i don’t understand them because then that’ll mean im as stupid and a dumbass as them - thx for reading

No girlie u saying u read rape stories is disturbing

Umm what the fuck are you saying? ur vocabulary sucked ass that i wasn’t able to read it completely. Although I understand what you are saying in the last paragraph, i don't know how to search tags and shit like that so the fact that you know what tags are in the stories you listed shows you know what they are and probably search them up. I am not forcing my POV because I didn’t even write anything that would only be seen in my point of view. I am not degrading you for reading jinx nor did i say that honey, go back and read my comment again.And My love what insecurities? ur the one that is replying to everyone trying to shove ur POV at them, understand that people just don’t agree with you and move on. Ur the one that is showing insecurities by the constant reply’s. It appears you dont like it when people correct you, which “isn’t natural” I admitted previously it was not rape it was SA. So whats the problem? The fact that you like to read rape stories? How is that a problem if you admitted to reading horrible shit like that. Again, this is apparently “my POV” so don't feel free to respond

Thank you for sharing some thoughts. first and foremost, I can differentiate from fantasy and reality. I get pissed off with reality. If I can’t do anything for the survivor or help capture the rapist, I turned the tv in frustration or quickly removed it from phone. Rape is hideous crime.

Fantasy is fake. People have always enjoyed reading these types of stories. Let move away . “The role played by erotic fiction and fantasy is an important one, says sexologist and director of Sexology Australia, Elaine George. "Erotic fiction, in particular, enables a woman to get carried away with her sense of imagination and imaginary play," she says. "That imaginary play can be with a lover. It can be with multiple lovers. And it can be inventing a scenario that enables her to become erotically charged. Someone can imaginary play to be with multiple lovers and never want that or condone it reality.
It is an escape from reality. These stories have exist and continues to grow. Rape is in the Bible. It seems common. I find it alarming you would ask me that.

You have not educated me because on your disgusting behavior. This story has SA. It is a fantasy and you should respect others. Read rape stories isn’t not disgusting. They would not popular and still created. Please educate yourself and be an adult. “ Just because it want rape doesn’t mean it was still okay” That is ridiculous. Learn to differentiate reality from fantasy. Learn it is common.
My view is not rape but SA. Your view is not rape but SA? So it is just the reading rape stories? And you don’t even know if I enjoy reading fantasy rape stories or have another reason. People do enjoy these stories if you don’t why are you here? Stop ruining what they like. Grow up what are you seven? You are being ridiculously rude and disgusting.

I am a man. Stop being disrespectful. Stop whining. Your reply is what is disturbing. You can’t distinguish between reality and fantasy. You can’t respect others. You are being a pos. Joo is better than you. And you don’t even know if I enjoy reading fantasy rape stories or have another reason. People do enjoy these stories if you don’t why are you here? Stop ruining what they like. Grow up what are you seven? You are being ridiculously rude and Disgusting.

Learn to differentiate reality from fantasy. Learn it is common.

Thank you for sharing some thoughts. first and foremost, I can differentiate from fantasy and reality. I get pissed off with reality. If I can’t do anything for the survivor or help capture the rapist, I turned the tv in frustration or quickly removed it from phone. Rape is hideous crime.

Fantasy is fake. People have always enjoyed reading these types of stories. Let move away . “The role played by erotic fiction and fantasy is an important one, says sexologist and director of Sexology Australia, Elaine George. "Erotic fiction, in particular, enables a woman to get carried away with her sense of imagination and imaginary play," she says. "That imaginary play can be with a lover. It can be with multiple lovers. And it can be inventing a scenario that enables her to become erotically charged. Someone can imaginary play to be with multiple lovers and never want that or condone it reality.
It is an escape from reality. These stories have exist and continues to grow. Rape is in the Bible. It seems common. I find it alarming you would ask me that.

I ain’t gonna read your whole ass paragraph cause you keep repeating yourself and it’s just annoying at this point but I do want to apologize for misgendering you- but then again how tf was I supposed to know - but I’ll be the bigger person here and sincerely apologize. I did not mean to misgender u- it’s on you if you want to accept it or not

Pretty bad ass response lol

I have a headache today. Your communication skills suck.


Each comic here has an area of “top tags”. It is above the topics. Select one of those tags. Then it will open a page to where you can search for any tag.

Stop treating me like shit. Not everyone on here is like you. I will block you because it is just a waste of time to talk to someone treating me like shit.

You are degrading me for reading rape stories when it is natural. I think jinx is dull. Don’t assume I like jinx. You make too many assumptions.
“ur the one that is replying to everyone trying to shove ur POV at them, understand that people just don’t agree with you and move on.” Gaslighting me.

“Ur the one that is showing insecurities by the constant reply’s. “ Not understand the situation, gaslighting me, and now trying to manipulate me to stop.

“ It appears you dont like it when people correct you, “. You never did. Gaslighting
It seems you are upset.

“So whats the problem?” Have you seen your insults? Do you even know how to have a mature civil conversation?

“ The fact that you like to read rape stories?” Have I said I like to read them?

“ How is that a problem if you admitted to reading horrible shit like that. “ people who like to read rape stories has that right. It is a lot better than your horrible shitty comments. Those stories are fantasies. Not real. I am a real person you are trying to harm to feel better about yourself and feel self righteous with higher morals. You failed to see I have treated you better than you have treated me. I may have misunderstood you to be of those that are forcing their POV “see rape or you are sick and need professional help.”

You have completely lied about me and what happened. You have demonizing me over read fantasy when your comments are far worse.

I posted it again because you missed the point. Some of it is a quote. I feel uncomfortable to say that is mine. Maybe read and I would not have to “repeat” it. Would you stop being rude. So here is the article. https://www.nowtolove.com.au/amp/health/sex/why-women-read-erotic-fiction-17262

I hope you are not like this is real-life. Those stories are fantasies. Not real. I am a real person you are trying to harm to feel better about yourself and feel self righteous with higher morals. You failed to see I have treated you better than you have treated me. You have demonizing me over read fantasy when your comments are far worse.


Stop treating me like shit. Not everyone on here is like you. I will block you because it is just a waste of time to talk to someone treating me like shit.
Thank you for apologizing but explain how are you a bigger person here? Have you seen how you been treating me? You have misunderstood me and insulted me since your first reply to me. It has been bizarre.

Technically, I am TM from TMSM. Two married men. SM barely did anything here.

Remove “ass”. *

OK, this is the last time I'm going to reply to your comment since I don't want to constantly go back and forth with you. To address your points clearly so you can understand what I'm saying.

1. The reason I said Joo asking if Dan has experience is irrelevant is because later Dan told Joo with words that he doesn't want to do it anymore. Meaning he explicitly told him he doesn't want to have sex - making Joo threatening him with violence rape. I think you are trying to say that if Dan had told Joo that he was inexperienced, he would not be rough with him? But let's say Dan did tell him he was inexperienced and the scene plays out similarly with Dan changing his minds and Joo threatening him, it wouldn't change the fact that Joo raped him.

Joo threatening Dan has nothing to do with Dan lie and everything to do with Joo being an entitled prick.

2. You mentioned he didn't mean to threaten someone but I find that hard to believe when Joo threatened him twice - once is possibly an accident. Two times isn't. Furthermore, he is the type of person to act on his threats, so he definitely meant it the first time he said it.

Telling someone you waste my time "like the last little bitch" - the guy who physically attacked by the way - don't expect to be sent home safe and sound is a threat. Telling that same person you would smash his head in if he keeps testing his patience then also uses physical force in this scene is threat. Joo did mean to bring threaten Dan otherwise he wouldn't have also brought up a man he attacked as an example and

3. The reason I said Joo pov is irrelevant is because it doesn't change anything. It doesn't change that Dan told him he no longer wants to do it - he told him explicitly but Joo threatened him with violence. From Joo perspective, it is still rape.

4. While you make a fair point that Dan thoughts aren't obvious to Joo, my point wasn't that Joo should know what Dan is thinking. My point is the author is trying to frame the scene as a rape / sa scene. Otherwise Dan wouldn't have those thoughts of it wanting to have it end quickly, having memories of the old guy who sa him and have nightmares about the night.

Anyways, that's all I have to say.

“Treating me like shit” you are shit if you want to continue arguing cause it definitely looks like it then go ahead . You’re annoying at this point always repeating yourself saying “youre trying to gaslight me and demonize me

Honestly it quite tiring having to go back and forth with them just ignore them they have no life’s so they spend it here in the comments arguing

Yeah, I already said everything I need to say. So, I really don't like repeating myself

Arguing? I been having a conversation.
Conversation- a talk, especially an informal one, between two or more people, in which news and ideas are exchanged. (ME!!)

Argue 1: give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view.
"“It stands to reason,” she argued".
(Not you)

Argue 2: exchange or express diverging or opposite views, typically in a heated or angry way. (not you)

Attack: (of a person or animal) act against (someone or something) aggressively in an attempt to injure or kill.

(You)

I am having a conversation. You are attacking me. There is no arguing. You are talking about yourself. You are gaslighting me. I am not always repeating myself. You are repeating yourself by saying that.
I think I said demonizing to you once. That is a POS move.

You are talking about yourself. Try actually having a real conversation. You never tried .
I will repeat myself again. Maybe you will learn the right times.
Arguing? I been having a conversation. You been attacking.
Conversation- a talk, especially an informal one, between two or more people, in which news and ideas are exchanged. (ME!!)

Argue 1: give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view.
"“It stands to reason,” she argued".
(Not you)

Argue 2: exchange or express diverging or opposite views, typically in a heated or angry way. (not you)

Attack: (of a person or animal) act against (someone or something) aggressively in an attempt to injure or kill.

(You)

. That is another POS move.

Not reading it but what happened to “ I will block you because it is just a waste of time to talk to someone treating me like shit. ”

dumb bitch lol anyways ciao <3

Those insults are you. He is a good man. He is a better person than you.

Bless your heart
- a rape survivor

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Dan only said he can't do it anymore when he SAW jk’s size. Assuming jk was smaller he would have complied. Reread the chapter.

Now you are just assuming just because you don't want to accept the truth.

Mind you, I thought it was a threat before but when I saw what he said next and the reaction thereafter I changed my mind because you can't threaten someone and then the next reaction, you're caring for them and assuming why they can't do it. This is to say he didn't KNOW his words came as a threat because he said it out of annoyance. Try understanding jk and don't see him as a monster in that particular moment.

Joo did NOT threaten him twice. (REREAD THE CHAPTER) lmao. It's you that doesn't want to accept how the scene played out. Notice how they react before and after, that is extremely important. The hell.

You need to learn how to read a comic properly because the author intends to make us understand how that scene is planned out. Lmao

The author is NOT trying to frame anything! She drew what she drew. She didn't intend RAPE. It is YOU that wants to see it as RAPE. You want that SCENE to be rape when it is NOT. You don't want to understand my terms because you keep repeating the same thing when I have explained clearly to you. But no you just DONT want to agree because I proved you wrong.

Lmao.

That's okay if we can't come to an agreement. I just wish all of you saying it's rape was more aware of what that scene actually was. Thanks.

“What happened to […]”
Later in life, you are going to be in a position where you wished you had another chance. Just in that moment remember the guy that gave you every chance to turn around to have a conversation with him and treating him like a person as he was you when he did not have to. Look at how you are treating him like dirt over your judgement and your misunderstanding.

When you judge others, you don’t define them, you define yourself. All those terms to degrade him are desperately describing yourself. How sad to be cowardly and feel the need to insult strangers online to feel better about yourself because you are suffering.

Okay? Is that supposed to affect me -anyways have a lovely day

This is how they all act but that's okay because, at the end of the day, it is you who will face the consequences that befall you. Tora, please leave these people. They're not even worth your time anymore. Fr.

Ok?

I agree and it sucks that it’s kinda true how some people are like that

Honestly, it's so saddening

Yeah, Jennett has nothing wrong with these but the peoples around her

Exactly. I've pointed that out earlier about how Jeanette biggest fault is her naviety and shelteredness which is really at the fault at the people around her. However, they are never called out

Don't worry many readers are mad right now