I get why people are reacting the way they are: but I also completely understand the mc. I would have done the same as he did. I cannot hate a person when I see them struggle and the reason behind it. While it's heartbreaking, know that ml is in a crisis that he himself couldn't understand.
You don't necessarily have to love a person to understand them. You just need to care enough about them to realize.
It's only heartbreaking for me because I can feel mc's situation—and I can only watch. The egregious pain and guilt of seeing someone's pitfall is too real.
Rape isn't just a reaction to struggle. If you ever may the universe and everything good dorbid, pass through such agression, such abuse... You won't be able to take it so lightly. I read stuff that depict it and that's my choice, but I will never excuse such crime. I hate him. I despise him. I hope you can keep this very innocent and reckless opinion....
I completely understand where you’re coming from. However, I’m unsure how you came to the conclusion that I would excuse such a crime based on what I said. I want to clarify that I view this purely as fiction. For me, the story’s value was in how it explored complex struggles, not as an endorsement of harmful actions. It’s important to separate fiction from reality. I believe it’s possible to engage with fiction critically while still fully condemning real-life atrocities, though I respect that this topic resonates differently with everyone.
I see your point clearer and even agree to a certain degree, as fiction this was a great work and with the point you made as the mc struggling with growing up and reaching adulthood and meeting the social criteria and expectations is really deep and is very relatable. I just was very disturbed about the brushing off of his criminal actions and how his psych was twisted, he was very egoistical and hurt the person he loves. I understand him, and I even agree and really like your words of support on mental health and struggling to find your footing and place in today's very demanding society. But I hate him still :( even in a fiction I find him repulsive... i relate to his pain in another sense, but I condemn him to the last degree due to his actions and lack of accountability, how he never seemed to really understand the gravity of his actions... And the victim also felt... Fake. As yes. This is fiction due to the obvious lack of consequences and impacts of such terrible things.
It's completely fine and I feel bad if I sounded confrontational, I was just pissed off with the story, I also really resonated with his struggle on growing up, but as someone who has suffered abuse and almost continued the cycle I feel appalled by how lacking this work is when it decided to include sexual violence. If it had stuck only on the thematic of today's societal expectations and difficulties of adapting and coming to terms with your own age and responsibilities I would absolutely love and praise this. But the way he attacked his so called friend... The way he never acknowledged the impact of his actions and how demeaning he later treated their relationship. It pissed me off. Anyways, thanks for reading and even reaching out to talk about your perspective, I am sorry once more if I was mean or attacked anyone, I hope we can keep a respectful debate about this work.
It's fine, we have our own experiences and views. I agree from start to finish, but I do hope you don't make assumptions on my experiences. All opinions come from somewhere and I do hope you already know without me explaining, where all the words I said came from. It certainly isn't something innocent or reckless—but rather the very flesh of what I experienced.
In any case, I'm not excusing the gravity of it either, but offering a standpoint. Each situation is undeniably different, but their common quality is how complex each is—a common consensus isn't enough to define what I went through.
But a word from me: understanding is different from forgiveness or acceptance. I gave neither.
What I gave for MC and ML is the understanding from someone who has seen the flesh of this situation.
In any case, I do hope the best for both our lives. I still understand the hate and despise, and most certainly for your wellbeing. Thanks for the concern.
Does anyone have any raws i cant find any with my usual sources