That was horrific
So basically he's being punished for "treating women like crap" but idk how much of that even makes sense.
One of the issues was that he kept getting his girlfriend pregnant, but he wasn't even ridiculed for having unprotected sex because the doctor also just does that, he was ridiculed for "cumming inside someone he doesn't even love" which is weird to me, because even if you don't fully ejac when inside, its still possible to cause pregnancy. And I don't like how it was a man's job to have to explain that to him, I feel like that's a conversation his gf should have had with him and that if that conversation went south, she needed to let him go.
The GF was actually obsessive and toxic so that's one of the biggest reasons I was kind of questioning if any of this "punishment" made sense
As far as we know the only the he did wrong was cheat on his past girlfriend and continued to finish inside his gf after she asked him not to (we assume, because it's not confirmed whether she even addressed that to him or not)
So yeah, he's a shitty guy but it just doesn't sit right with me that his punishment comes from a cheater and someone who also has casual unprotected sex.
Oh, and whatever body horror entity it was that kept ripping vulvas/vaginas into his flesh for nonsensical reasons
I was already crying but the extra chapter where Hikaru-B was saying he wished he could be human just so he could experience a hallucination of Tora's voice made me start sobbing
This feels like watching a trainwreck where you can't look away and every time you think it might be over the engine gets back up and does a backflip or something
So I definitely preferred the first story to the second and I think this is why
They framing of the seme's actions were completely different
Where in the first one the seme is obviously a psycho and his actions were not those of a sound individual, and it's not only us the readers identifying that but also the uke
The uke does succumb to the whims of the seme but it feels weirdly justified at the end (even though of course the seme's initial actions were unjustifiable)
But the second one, the Uke is portrayed as a emotionally vulnerable and almost depressing character, and the seme instead of approaching him with his earnest feelings, purposefully torments the uke in hopes of him acting out on his suppressed feelings. And what's worse is that this works, the Uke ends up feeling bad for the pain he caused the seme instead of the other way around.
In the first one it feels like even though the seme literally imprisoned the uke, he was always honest about his desires (as far as he understood them) and presented those honest feelings to the uke in word and deed, but the second seme is just the opposite - dishonest and purposefully harming the uke to achieve the end goal he wanted.
The first seme gave into the uke, letting him go (he did ofc made the choice to come back, but it definitely feels a little stolkholm-y), but the second seme had the uke give in to him, feel bad for him, and absolve his actions.
Neither is a healthy start to a relationship but this is just why I think the first one FEELS better than the second
I just really hate how when Hayami is saying no or refusing, he's practically treated like a child who's throwing a tantrum because he doesn't actually know what he wants or is good for him. Like, no, he wants to have a consensual sexual encounter that accommodates the desires of both parties, he's not a kid saying no to eating veggies.
And then there's Ryu who is a piece of shit and the one time he actually decides to use his words instead of just assaulting Hayami however he wants, he still has to literally PIN HAYAMI TO THE BED before he does.
But also they had like zero chemistry?
Maybe it's just me but there wasn't a single point where it felt like we were shown any moment of genuine feelings or chemistry between them, the author just told us they were falling in love but never showed it happening.
Also, what happened to Ryu being shy or socially awkward? That's how he first appears to both Hayami and the readers, but it was like "oh he's actually hot, so not shy or socially awkward anymore". I know he mentioned how he wears a suit for work so it'd make sense that he knows how to clean up and look presentable, but it's not just the clothes and hairstyle, how he carried himself was completely different from then on.
What I'm getting at is that it really felt like the shyness was all an act to manipulate Hayami into a vulnerable position where he could be taken advantage of
The Ryu we see from ch2 on is self confident, he's hot and he knows it, he knows what he wants and he takes it. That's not a change that occurs in one afternoon.
It could very well be that the writing is just poor in this regard, but it really makes the whole encounter feel more malicious.
Okay Dami pissed me tf off
He showed up and from day one was trying to insert himself into and break up their relationship, even when they were just friends which is just . . . Where does that kind of audacity come from??? He insists it's real love but he "fell in love" at first sight and instantly decided he could decide for Doha that Jun shouldn't be in his life or that he should be able to replace Jun. THIS WAS WHEN HE WAS STILL A COMPLETE STRANGER.
I know he didn't act super serious about it but it really just felt like Jun was always ganged up on and Doha never stood up for him and just laughed it off.
Most of it wasn't taken that seriously (but every offhanded comment trying to edge Jun out of the picture made my heart ache) but when Dami actually said a lot of out of line shit that actually hurt Jun, tanking his self esteem, he never really addressed or apologized for it properly.
I also wasn't a fan of the other friend who followed and outed them? For no reason?? And then acted like that was just his right to do so
Literally being like "my business is done here" once everything was out in the open, like the two of them were wrong for keeping a secret
And the idea that they had to be considerate of Dami just because he liked Doha, even tho it's not like Dami is a long time friend who liked Doha first (which is the only situation where i feel like that kind of consideration makes sense)
Jun and Doha had a long standing established relationship long before Dami even knew Doha, so I just don't understand why he or anyone else thinks he should have any say in their relationship, especially since he doesn't even act like a good friend as far as we can see
All we as the audience are shown is Dami talking about how he wants Doha's attention and wants Jun to fuck off, and obviously there has to be more to their friendship than that, because otherwise I really don't see why they'd interact with him at all . . .
But we the readers don't see any of that or anything or humanize Dami or make him likeable. Maybe his one sided crush is supposed to do that, but I just can't take it seriously when we aren't shown anything but his first encounter with Doha.
This is why Dami just felt like (to me) a nuisance at best and a toxic asshole at worst
I don't know, I can't understand why some readers seem to like him, so if someone with a different perspective could explain what they see in him to me, I'd actually really appreciate it <3
Okay I haven't really stared reading yet, but-
"It was God's wish for beasts and humans to copulate" ?
God sounds like an absolute freak
God sounds like he needs to delete some browser history before he catches some allegations
God sounds like a fan of a certain man whose name rhymes with Crane Bawson
Anywho, can't wait to get to the story lol, just thought that was a really uh. . . interesting way to put that
This is probably projection, but this definitely feels a little poly
The lack of boundaries between the two couples especially when it comes to sex and intimacy really just give me polyamorous vibes
Waaiitt so the baby is still only 1 year old and she's in classes?? I assumed they time skipped until she was a couple years cuz they said she's in classes but for reference, most one year olds are still breast feeding, some manage to say one or two words consistently, and only really understand simple words like "no" and "bye-bye" or terms like "mom" and "dad"
What kind of "classes" is this baby a part of and why aren't you parenting you child?
(To be clear, it's not really a criticism of the fictional characters, more just a question of why the author felt the need to make this baby like a huge thing at the end and through the pregnancy only to actually just throw the whole baby away. I'm still enjoying the story ofc, I just have to shake my head over this lol)
Hi, I'm an aro-spec individual
(For me this just means I relate to different aspects of multiple identities on the aromantic spectrum)
Personally, I find Fukami really relatable and even if he's not labeled as aromantic, he still feels like good representation and where the story is at right now feels like a great example of how relationships don't have to look or feel like traditional romance to be happy and fulfilling
Going forward, they might start doing romantic things and their relationship might develop in a more traditional romance kinda way, but as and aro person, I still enjoy doing a lot of romantic things so I feel like it wouldn't necessarily change how I feel about this subject, because aro people can totally have dedicated relationships and do romantic things and still be aromantic
Its different for everyone which I think makes it really cool to talk about, but I just hope I made some sense while rambling here ( ;^ ^)>
I used to really like sw cuz of how his cool demeanor completely dominated dh's hot temper
But now it really just feels like it's all crumbling and I just feel depressed q-q
Wtf are these translations lol
But aside from the weird "baby"s, "dude"s, and "man"s thrown onto the end of every other sentence, the rest of the text is just really hard to follow
Okay I know a lot of people are confused and frustrated by the plot but honestly, this is one of the best things I've ever read. I love when the main character is entangled with the very lore of the foundation of the world they live in, and it's even better that she's still a child (just because age-up time skips can feel like a cop out when writers no longer know how to write a child handling the situations they want to write). And the fact that she might even become like the new god of this world?? 10 outa 10, this feeds the god complex fantasy I've had since I was a child
And I actually really love how this is written here at (I assume) the end, even though it's making most readers confused, its almost like the world setting is abstracting before my eyes as we see these gods fighting, both with impossibly opposing positions
And I think a lot of things are vague and confusing on purpose, or at least to the benefit of the story's presentation since I think it would be so easy for this confrontation to fall flat and just seem like silly mortals squabbling instead of the profound, age old battle that's shaped the dynamic of this world finally experiencing significant progression and hopefully closure soon as all the pieces start to fall into place
So yeah, I know it's definitely not everyone's cup of tea, especially at this point where everything is kind of abstracting, but it's definitely mine and I just think it's really cool :>
(Ngl, still think they way they cut her bangs is a tragedy tho)
But let's not forget that outside the realm of fiction, and adult (23) raping and sexually manipulating a teenager (he could be as young as 16, but I assume he's 17) is really sick and illegal for a reason
Also, something that's probably more relevant to the average person - a sexually manipulative partner is a sexually abusive partner, and sexual and domestic abuse only escalates over time. While it makes sense in fiction, it's delusional to believe that you can change an abusive partner so you should always prioritize your safety and get out of there as soon as safely possible
I would immediately propose if I saw mama wolf walking down the street (๑♡⌓♡๑)