YOU GUYS HEAR ME OUT
AT THE END OF CHAPTER 50 LEON SMILES AND SAYS HE FEELS GOOD WITH MEPHISTO USING HIS WEIRD DEFORMED UGLY GROSS FREAK FUNNY PP DAMN BRO LOST HIS MIND FOR GOOD NOW POOR THING. (...)
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... Well, but yk... if even Leon enjoys some monster fucking, WHO ARE WE to not agree with him???? You do you ma boy, but let me in tooヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~
Is it just me or is anybody else having a hard time trying to understand what they are actually saying??? I don't know if it's the translation or how the actual story is written, but honestly half of what's being said doesn't make much sense with the context?? I'm so confused...
Honestly, I'm inclined to believe the problem is the translation. It's probably non official and I guess the person doing it isn't fluent in English or in Korean.
I'm not trying to belittle their hard work translating it, in fact I'm very grateful for it (if the uploader is reading this, please keep it up, we love you!!!!), but it is confusing, more specifically about the last 8 chapters or so?? English is not my first language but I don't remember being this confused on the first half of the story, if your reading comprehension is getting worse, then so is mine.
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS IT'S A GOOD THING DAN HAS CONFESSED even though he's not in his right mind????
I mean, we all want some change in their dinamycs, and this is the best and fast way we can have it! Also, Jaekyung didn't really react agressive or too upset about it??
(Btw, I made a list on Twitter of possible reactions JK would have after the confession, but it's in portuguese and I'm honestly too lazy to translate it to English rn lol)
In any moment I said he was being honest or in love though??? All I said is: his confession, wether is stockholm syndrome or a masochist affection, probably WILL change their dynamics. Yes, Dan is probably getting restless when he learns what has happened and JK will probably get extra defensive, and THAT will change things between than, for the best or for the worse, I'm not trying to guess which on is going to be. Idk about you but I'm really unsatisfied with their """"""relationship"""""" rn and Jaekyung won't change his shitty behavior by his own.
> The story needs development asap and this confession might start it. That's all what I'm saying, nothing more. <
babes let me leave the definition of stockholm syndrome here “ Stockholm syndrome describes the psychological condition of a victim who identifies with and empathizes with their captor or abuser and their goals.” Which very clearly explains whats going on here. Even though love is a complex feeling and is hard to be explained properly… kim dan is being deluded into thinking that this is love, is it? no! but its all he has ever received from JK..and to add to that, he probably has no prior experience to compare what hes going through to actual love and affection.
i already cleared that… hes being deluded due to lacking experience in love.. nowhere in the definition of stockholm syndrome is the word “love” mentioned, and thats intentional. I do think that mingwa will turn this into some stupid story and jk falls inlove with kim dan and he starts being less aggressive or wtv but as i said this isn’t love due to the circumstance… it may turn into ACTUAL love… but due to change in circumstance.
I do agree with the latter part of your statement. However, I still believe Kim Dan is falling in love rather than being deluded. JK is never been kind to him at least intentionally to be liked by Kim Dan. And Kim Dan is not showing any signs or symptoms as we speak the people who experience Stockholm syndrome. He's falling.
I don't believe this is Stockholm syndrome though. Even though Jaekyung abuses Dan, Jae Kyung has also shown some likable qualities that can make Dan fall for him. The fact that Jaekyung is literally the only person who has helped Dan this much is already shaming your opinion. Dan finds Jaekyung attractive…he always has since the beginning. Jaekyung visited Dan’s grandma in the hospital(someone Dan holds dear the most). He saved Dan from getting raped by those loan sharks, he started to become considerate of Dan during their smexxy times, and he took the doctor’s advice of being more affectionate(kissing and stuff). He feeds Dan and lets him stay in his home and Heesung says he doesn't let anyone into his home. Love can progress in the most unusual way.
I admit Jaekyung’s personality is fucked up but he still has human sympathy and cares for Dan even though he doesn't want to admit it. The dude has pride and may see love as a distraction to his career I think.
you can find someone attractive or have a good impression on them but that does not mean they have fallen in love with them at first sight. i can find someone attractive without being in love or like them in that way (that only happenes in fairy tales). he might have seen him in diffrent sight when he went to his gradma or when he won that match with the russian guy.
You're right but that was an attraction. I didn't say it was love at first sight. I said Dan has been attracted to Jaekyung since the beginning, even before the abuse. You can check the chapters. It doesn't count as Stockholm syndrome. SS, you start to develop an attraction to your abuser but Dan already had those attractions, Jaekyung only triggered it more when he did more nice things for Dan.
he was not attracted to him dan wasn't even technically gay at the start or thought of jaekyung that way. he was blushing because he was new to seeing someone's body like that. it was never implied at the start that dan saw him in that way at all and frankly dan was just glad he got a job. also dan thinking he's handsome does not in any way make him attracted to jk. those are two different things being actually attracted to someone or just having eyes and being able to tell someone is good looking or not.
I was desperately waiting for your reply.
Dan has Aesthetic attraction. This involves feelings of admiration for a person’s appearance without any physical, sexual, or romantic desires toward them. This attraction type often goes along with other types of attraction in relationships.
He's attracted to Jaekyung.
It is stockholm i fear… yes i can understand how ur saying JK helped him out of his living situation but like… not out of kindness.. it was like an eye for an eye situation. Basically JK is like hey! you are living in a shitty home getting beat up and raped by gangsters, well ill let u live with me ill feed u BUTTTTT while i treat u like a slave while also brutally raping you. I mean cmon i can go on. Its stockholm syndrome. And being considerate to kim dan during intercourse, bro… doc dan asked him to do the bare minimum… wear a condom… and he refuses.. pleaseeee dont play w me LMAOO.. I could care less he went to see his grandma LMAOO please
ME???? DELUSIONAL??? the call is comin from inside the house.. Why cant u just agree that this is stockholm syndrome rather than arguing with facts like an idiot… i never said its gonna stay that way.. but as of right now thats the best terminology to explain to yall dumbasses that it isnt love.. its fucking mingwa.. obv theyre gonna be inlove by the end of the fucking story dibshit… but as u said.. lets wait for the end… and see how fuckin different it is than the situation rn… idiot
no because you aren't delusional at all personally I suffer from very bad Stockholm syndrome that I still struggle to get over like honestly I don't get why people are fetishizing the things that come with Stockholm syndrome like this is literally giving me booktok vibes bro because like genuinely who tries to justify this shit so much
by the way people he wasn't attracted to him he was admiring him because he was so like excited I guess you could say to meet someone as strong as him and has famous as him like he was like a fanboy kind of but not really. is literally why he was blushing because he was nervous and you can see throughout the whole series that he does that a lot with a lot of different people so unless you're saying that he wants to fuck every single person in this thing I think you're wrong
Why must you be rude about every single thing?
Did you read my points of why I don't see it as Stockholm syndrome? Why is it so hard communicating with people like you?
I didn't call it Stockholm syndrome because Dan was already attracted to Jaekyung before the abuse. Dan has feelings for Jaekyung at the moment and I stated reasons why he would develop these feelings. Please read my comments before. You don't have to be rude…just trying to have a conversation here.
Dan was aesthetically attracted to Jaekyung. Believe it or not.
Dan has an Aesthetic attraction toward Jaekyung(just like potato). This involves feelings of admiration for a person’s appearance without any physical, sexual, or romantic desires toward them. This attraction type often goes along with other types of attraction in relationships. He admires Jaekyung in the career aspect, he admires how hard he worked just to be at the top. Dan kept blushing so hard when he saw a glimpse of Jaekyung’s body. He always called Jaekyung handsome.
What version of Jinx are you guys even reading? Please re-read.
SS has been debunked. https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14548628/
i already debunked that babe… attraction isnt a special thing it honestly means nothing… we experience beinf attracted to people and things all the time. Just bc kim dan appreciated JK’s looks that makes him??? what not a victim?? There were no feelings of love or wanting to be with him in the beginning so as i said.. yes it is stockholm syndrome lmao
it cant be entirely SS because this is fiction and a very stupid and unrealistic story but there are also other syndromes that can explain this…. lima syndrome (thats far fetched bc we dont know the ending) battered person syndrome, doc dan def shows signs of learned helplessness i mean i took psychology… thing is you can’t introspectively assign these disorders based off of thought bubbles
I'm just glad I now know the type of person you are lmao. Don't worry, I understand you hate this story so much, and that's really okay. Dan would tell Jk how much he loves him and they will fuck so hard till mingwa knows when. You want it to be Stockholm syndrome so bad it's pathetic. Should I recommend some Stockholm syndrome you would so much enjoy? You could try the warehouse, there's a huge amount of rape scenes there.
Ew…. ur actually sick u want this to be love sooooo bad…no one cares if its not stockholm syndrome bc even if im wrong which stockholm syndrome has a lot of factors that come into play that ill admit i did not know…. but it’ll be closer to SS than it will ever be to love.. please go outside and find a significant other.. ik it'll be hard… but hey try not to foolishly fall for someone to takes advantage of u… just lookin out for u xoxo
It would be best if you and manhwaspicy stop attacking. Do you think you can do that for me?
He is more accurate as you seem to be hate reading.
You can add more negativity to because it is not that toxic.
OMG Jaekyung locked Dan into a room and kept him confided in chains. Jaekyung punched Dan in the stomach. Jaekyung killed his grandma.
You can see elements but it does not make it true. This story can be more negative than what it is.
man I'll admit it I'm attacking you and I'll attack anybody who's trying to say that this story got nothing wrong with it or this isn't Stockholm syndrome like you people are fucking weirdos because of the shit I went through personally and you can keep ignoring me I don't fucking care, because of the shit I went through I have severe PTSD I have to take over 10 pills a day and so much more and I will never get over it and I always will feel the same because I will never heal from it and you are glorifying that because you are and always will be disgusting I don't care how old you are I hope you always look back on this when you're old enough to understand how gross this was that you feel guilty about it and realize you'll never be able to forget the fact that many people tried to steer you in the right direction and you just wanted to be an imbecile and ignore it. you'll regret it eventually
It is stockholm i fear… yes i can understand how ur saying JK helped him out of his living situation but like… not out of kindness.. it was like an eye for an eye situation. Basically JK is like hey! you are living in a shitty home getting beat up and raped by gangsters, well ill let u live with me ill feed u BUTTTTT while i treat u like a slave while also brutally raping you. I mean cmon i can go on. Its stockholm syndrome. And being considerate to kim dan during intercourse, bro… doc dan asked him to do the bare minimum… wear a condom… and he refuses.. pleaseeee dont play w me LMAOO.. I could care less he went to see his grandma LMAOO please
This is not accurate to the story. IS Jaekyung treating him like slave? If you are right about the rape, is it brutal? I can see you stating things you believe are facts but you are starting to force your pov. Why don't you understand that the condom situation which it makes no sense?
About the comment I am replying I know you were offended by the delusional. :Why cant y just agree that this is ss" Because it is not. Why cant you just agree you are delusional? see? You can't when you know what it is not. Why is up with all the name calling?
That pushes people away.
I genuinely don’t understand what point you’re trying to make with the second paragraph like are you saying that rape isn’t brutal? And with the SS situation I already cleared that up and said that there are other factors that play into the diagnosis of Stockholm syndrome. Our whole argument is based around the fact that it is not love. If anyone’s delusional, it’s the people who are believing this is love.
No, you are just mad. Sorry about your PTSD but I won't pity you and I will give you the same energy. This is NOT Stockholm syndrome believe it or not. You have no points to relieve your claim. No one is glorifying anything, we are only stating what the situation truly is. My gosh. You are triggered, it is clear and I'm sorry. I think it's best you leave this conversation. It is unhealthy for you. You seem to take things in the wrong direction hereby pouring your frustration on others. This is not about you putting us in the right direction. You are in the wrong direction. We are trying to correct your wrong claim with proof whereby you backfire us with nothing but insults and attacks.
It is okay if we don't come to an agreement but for you to call us weird for having a different view from you is pathetic. Experience isn't always the answer…we prefer to analyze the situation than make wrong claims like you are doing.
like girl... genuinely what in your thick head made you think that that was a good idea to start this argument when you know nothing about this kind of stuff you have been proven wrong and you're still trying give up and block all these people because nobody wants to deal with you and get off your phone because you're clearly too young for this
okay one he's being abused he's being forced into sex because he wants to care for his grandma and he can't afford to pay for her bills he's being manipulated and threatened and hurt with physical violence and randomly just started growing feelings that is not normal you do not grow a crush on somebody who abuses you and rapes you you do not grow a crush on somebody like that that is Stockholm syndrome look into research I know a lot about this mainly because I have it and along with that that is literally my profession I'm going into working with this kind of stuff
I agree OP I like that he said it. It was sweet and honest. And JK WILL think about it later hehe
To commenters talking about consent and shit: You think minghwa or most porn writers care about “doing things right?” This is porn people this isn’t a literary novel prize winning work. We all know that abuse is awful. This is PORN. These are DRAWINGS. If you don’t like it, find other PORN that fits your taste. People need to stop putting these standards that don’t make sense in PORN. My god.
Are you saying someone stealthing is brutal? Are you saying Jaekyung forced Dan on the bed as Dan was kicking and punching? Are you saying Jaekyung kept slamming Dan into the bed? Where are Dan's cuts? bruises? Some rape survivor you can't tell who they are anymore for how brutal their rape was? Can you tell who Dan still is? Is Dan still alive? Has he been close to death?
Why the hell are you asking rape isn't brutal? How is this about real rape in general? How dense are you? I said if you are right about Dan being raped. ONE case of rape. How disgusting can you be? So how is Dan brutally raped? Why are you making it about all real rape cases? GROSS! You cross the line. This is not about real-life Rack. What you did was disgusting as I was clear. Unlike you who pretend to care, I will stand up and defend a rape survivor. Rape is a crime. Jinx is a story.
Someone else on here said SS can't be diagnosed. It is not SS. Do you mean your whole argument? Your argument attacks people it is to see your way or be delusional.
You are making Love is not the only factor with SS. And like it or not, they are end game. The love is growing,. It has since chapter 1. That is if you are unbiased with the story.
Bruh please what is this? Why are u comparing rape stories.. i’ve been raped before and UR being disgusting. Being raped is a brutal act in itself… period. Not everyone’s rape experience is the same and if ur a REAL rape survivor u have sympathy for all victims whether or not they came out with scratches and bruises whether they fought back or laided their and took it out of pure shock. You fucking disgust me.. go to hell.
man I'll admit it I'm attacking you"
FINALLY HONESTY.
" and I'll attack anybody who's trying to say that this story got nothing wrong with it or this isn't Stockholm syndrome"
Back to lying again. It is not SS. Since you hate links. Go educate yourself.
"like you people are fucking weirdos" You are the one making false versions of people and attacking people and name calling because people have different opinions on a story from you.
" you can keep ignoring me I don't fucking care," Have I? Earlier I was reading the thread and did not see new comments. Then I was called away. I have a life.
" because of the shit I went through I have severe PTSD I have to take over 10 pills a day"
I am sorry you had to go that and I would listen to you. But from how you been acting I don't want to hear your sob story when you don't think about others over a stupid opinion on a story.
Rose was raped and she was harassed by people like you. I know another one has PTSD and he was harassed by people like you. So TM might. By the way, there is another Rape survivor in the "group". They never said it. You are tormenting people like you over your opinion on a story. That is weird. Why don't you grow up as the world does not evolve around you and everyone has problems like you do.
“you are glorifying that because you are and always will be disgusting”
NO ONE IS! You don’t know my opinions. You are imposing on me. You are disgusting. Because you see elements of something it does not make it true. They saying it is Sexual assault and not rape. They are glorifying nothing. How dense are you?
I hope you will look back and feel gross with how you treated others over your opinion on a story. I know so many trolls have tried to steer us in the wrong direction. you'll regret it eventually
Sorry to interrupt the discussion bcs honestly I didn't read most of it since it has nothing to do with the topic I created lol but anyways, since you have severe psychological problems, I don't think it's a good idea for you to be reading this kind of story. We are already in chapter 39 and everybody knows from the beginning it would be a toxic story. You can't control other people's opinions about it, but you CAN choose the kind of content you read that won't cause you stress.
To @Kori
It seems the abuse has blinded you into not viewing other aspects of the story. Did that sound rude? If so, sorry about that.
As I said before, Dan has been attracted to Jaekyung since the beginning. He didn't develop that attraction from being abused. It came naturally. There are many reasons why Dan would develop feelings for Jaekyung, they are literally in front of you.
•The fact that Jaekyung is the only one who has helped Dan this much is already shaming your opinion.
•Jk visited and accompanied Dan’s grandma(someone he holds dear the most). Jk made Dan’s grandma smile and Dan was really happy about it.
•Jk kissed Dan unexpectedly. Dan was surprised and reacted very confusingly. Many develop crushes from unaware kisses. Like me lmao.
•He saved Dan from getting raped.
•He paid all his debts(Dan is living better, he doesn't get beat up like he used to, although gets abused but it's better than his past life. He chose what was better for him).
•He finds Jaekyung attractive.
•Do you see the way Jk willingly kisses Dan? Have you noticed the way Dan reacts to those kisses? He's falling. The feelings are developing and growing.
About the Stockholm syndrome
•Like I said before, Dan was attracted to Jaekyung since the beginning, although it isn't an attraction in the sexual sense basically it still counts as having a psychological bond.
•Dan is not held captive. He isn't trapped. He could leave before he signed that contract but he chose to stay. And a grown man should definitely know how a contract works.
•Can you remember when the real feelings started? I think chap 29, the swimming pool scene when Jk wanted Dan to ride him but Dan couldn't do it because of Jaekyung’s penetrating stare. He found Jaekyung exceptionally attractive at that moment and he became shy to be watched riding him.
I still have more points but I'm kinda tired of typing now.
Rose is a rape survivor and she never used as a point or validation.
Troll 1: I am sorry you were rape but you cant use your rape a validation.
Troll 2: You can't use you rape as a talking point.
Troll 3: Just because you were rape does know to make you know about rape.
You are trying to use your experience as validation. She did not. Why are you special?
Why do you think you know more?
you are a nutcracker. literally in the second paragraph is perfectly explains their relationship… its ss
https://stopify.co/2P2OD0.Stockholm-Syndrome
comparing rape stories? huh?? I am sorry you have been raped. It took a lot of courage to tell me about this. You didn’t do anything to deserve this.
I care about you and am here to listen or help in any way I can but you get to stop attacking with lies. I don't deserve what you said. You are being disgusting to me. You are the toxic on here. Being raped is a brutal act in itself, right but how does that have anything to do what my original comment. You are flying off the handle.
"Not everyone’s rape experience is the same" That was my point in all my comments to you.
There is nothing one like you toxic and violent who claims to the rape survivor who attacked a rape survivor over an opinion on these story. They even called her a hoe and deadass. Maybe you just showed they were not.
Now you have to think why are you making unnecessary comments "if ur a REAL rape survivor u have sympathy for all victims whether or not they came out with scratches and bruises whether they fought back or laided their and took it out of pure shock"
I care about rape survivors. I defended Rose while you would treat her awful over an opinion on a story.
Why are you attacking me with your lies? You fucking disgust me with how you treat others and Hell don't exist.
Where are you comparing rape stories? or something. I have not read all your comments.
I think for once this is an argument. Until Rack started to make this disgusting. Rose and all the other rape survivors I know, never acted like this.
I think this is the first time we joined an argument together.
Thank you!!! Finally someone talking about the main subject!!!! We are probably getting some development in the story now, finally.
About the second part: totally agree. I didn't even want to start speaking about how ridiculous it is to see people complaining about the problematics of this story as if they were expecting a healthy and educational manhwa and got disappointed. It's simply ridiculous, they keep complaining but won't stop reading! LMAO it's like choosing to watch a horror movie and complain about the scary parts lol
Also, people trying to find real life logic in the character's behavior, wtf????? Using psychological theories to justify x or y behavior??????? It's literally based in just one thing: what the author wants and decides. People are trying to read too deep on a fiction as if it should obey rules from real life.
No one questions about none of them having body hair; or none of them actually cleaning their (self lubrificant) assholes before sex, or how the dicks proportions (and body in general) are complete out of reality, etc. But for a character to fall in love with an abusive guy? OH NO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE suddenly we MUST follow real life logic, studies, theories, psychology etc for it to make sense or else it's a stockholm syndrome!
Honestly, I give up arguing with people about a freaking 2d erotic story. Now I just read and comment whatever I fell like, knowing PRETTY WELL it doesn't reflect in anyway my personal believes and morals in real life since we are all adults in here.
I'm super allowing you guys to discuss about it, if I wasn't I would have deleted the topic already it's just that you guys are taking it too serious and it's getting totally out of hand with personal attacks and stuff, all because of a comic yk... I could mute it, I know, but I don't want to lol I'm just watching now, please don't mind me (●'◡'●)ノ
What??? Should me where I disbelieved you. Do you have reading issues? Or are you here to troll? Rose is rape survivor who I believe you would harass and she deleted her account to be free from the targeted harassment.
Your lies are nothing new. This is how we have been treated since July by many trolls. Why are you lying and talking out your ass?
"I am sorry you have been raped. It took a lot of courage to tell me about this. You didn’t do anything to deserve this.
I care about you and am here to listen or help in any way I can but you get to stop attacking with lies. I don't deserve what you said."
It seems my comments shows I believed you. Why the hell lie?
"There is another* one like you toxic and violent who claims to the rape survivor who attacked a rape survivor over an opinion on this story*. They even called her a hoe and deadass. Maybe you just showed they were not"
This is not about you? Did you get confused? I had typos. My dad was rushed to the hospital. It has been a crazy night.
Three has. One more will.
Rose made a comment and it was not carefully said and she did not explain something well. People, like you, violently, attacked her. Three defended her. They have been forced into a "group" and they have been targeted harassed since July over lies.
Instead of seeing the attack on the rape survivor, everyone attacking them try to make it opinions and a pov vs pov. They were attacked on a lie. It has grow and grow. Rose hated the story and dropped it
A few wanted to talk about Jinx but they can't they get attacked each time. They are unbiased and someone has a grudge against them that will not let something go. They were treated way worse.
"There is another* one like you, who is * toxic and violent who claims to the rape survivor who attacked a rape survivor over an opinion on this story*. They even called her a hoe and deadass. Maybe you just showed they were not"
This is not about you? Did you get confused?
There is another person like you. This person, who is not you, is just as toxic and violent, they claim they are a rape survivor. This rape survivor went after Rose. They ( I did say you) even called her a hoe and deadass.
Maybe YOU just showed THEY (why would I put they? and not you?) were not.
I know there was typos by why are you making "They", you? It was clear I was talking about a different person.
Thanks, I am worried about him.
(I'm actually really impressed about the outcome of this story, I did see some bullying and harassment on the comments section on the last months but I had no idea it ended like this. If anyone feel the comments in here are following the same direction, please tell me so I can delete the topic since I'm not really reading most of it)
I just came here to say: I'M NOT READY TO LET IT GO.
God, it's been such a long and tough ride, I honestly think every friday from now on, for at least the next months, I'll feel empty and griefing for this story. I'll deeply miss Nakyum and Lord Seungho :(
8 minutes for the last chapter, I just hope everything ends in a way we can find closure to move on soon.
Fuck it I would be polygamous in this situation EASILY, no regrets.
Bruh same here
Don't think they want to share though
took the words right out my mouth
My fujoshi ass would solve this "share" problem in a second and everybody would be winning *chef kiss*
Literally though