Side not about the hulaballoo over this being uploaded. I tried to go see the scanlator's link to read it off site and all of my malware protection blocked it. So I couldn't read it off site.
The scanlator's site works fine for me. Maybe try another link by searching on google
I hate that they pull translated scans when a title is licensed. I BUY THE BOOKS when they come out in English, regardless of if it's out on scanlation sites or not. IMO scanlation sites like Mangago are like going to the library. There are a lot of titles I wouldn't have bought once they were in English if I hadn't have read them online first. Having a book in a library does not diminish sales. People will either buy or they won't.
1) Libraries pay for their copies. This site does not and in fact is profiting off of pirated works.
2) Unfortunately, not everyone is like you and a shocking number of readers will not buy what they can get for free.
Those readers probably would not buy anyway. I think there is a false assumption that readers won't buy what they can get for free, but fans buy what they can. It is possible people read hings they would not or could not buy and then do not buy, but it's not the free access that stops them from buying--it's the fact that they would never have bought it.
It's sort of like that old fashioned advice about how a man doesn't buy the cow if he can get the milk for free. If you love the cow, you buy the cow (if you can). If you just want free milk, you were never going to buy the cow no matter what.
It's still illegal, but I remain unconvinced of the harm.
Well I guess that makes sense, but how about the people who live in countries that don't have cows, in particular this one, to sell? Because that's the case of many people here.
They wouldn't have bought the cow then, so you can't honestly count them as a lost cow sale. I am not taking a stand against free milk. I am saying that in my experience, free milk only promotes cow sales and doesn't actually stop anyone from buying a cow if he or she would have bought a cow. Personally, I am more likely to buy a cow if I know I like the milk.
Right, because the publishing industry couldn't possibly have existed all those years before the internet when people couldn't just read everything for free and then decide if they wanted to pay for it or not. And the honor system is a perfectly viable business model. And that's exactly why the Japanese manga industry has embraced piracy. Dream on.
All you have to do is read posts on any of the pages on this site for manga that are readily available in print and it becomes patently obvious that the majority of readers who claim to be fans and have been reading a particular series for years have NOT read the print volumes. They use the scanlation misspellings of names and titles. They quote the scanlation translation only. They don't know what you're talking about when you reference extras and author notes that appear only in the print volumes.
And it's funny how that milk metaphor only applies to manga, huh? You can't walk into a theater and say "I'm going to watch this movie and if I love it, I'll pay you on the way out. After all, if I love the cow, I'll buy the cow." You don't walk into a grocery store, pick up a new brand of cereal and say "I'll come back and pay for this if I love it." Why should that apply only to manga?
I really want to buy it. I will buy it once I start working cus to buy the copy in English is bloody expensive in my country as well as if I buy it from amazon cus the US currency. Can u understand students from overseas like us who their country's currency is lower than US?
Folk tales and fairy stories were passed on without money or credit, but Disney made a mint on them anyway, even though people told those stories for free for centuries. I think that for years people have shared stories they loved or browsed in libraries and found authors they later bought. The publishing industry used to be against libraries when they first started too. If fans love the manga, those that can will buy it (or as much as they can when they can).
There is no credible evidence that actual sales are lost--just fear. There are some studies that show that people who download music are the ones who buy the most music, and some that show people who publish under a creative commons license do fine. Neil Gaiman put The Graveyard Book online for free and it is still a best seller. I think that a smart company would look at it as a marketing opportunity, and add more merchandising (since that is harder to download).
I think that fans buy when they can--particularly manga and graphic novels (which are different in print than in a scan). I think publishers are afraid--and I see evidence of their fear, not of lost sales. You can argue that a story should be like a loaf of bread or a car, but in truth it is a very different market and a digital copy *is* different than a physical one, even if you do not want it to be so. Arguing "should be" is one thing, and proving lost sales verses increased sales is another.
People making typos and referring to online scans in forums is not evidence that they never buy. For one thing, it is easier to reference things online when you are on a smart phone or a tablet. For another thing, maybe you buy a little at a time when you can. It doesn't mean you won't ever buy or that you would have bought if it were not free. Finally, forgetting an author's note is understandable when you think about how easy it is to take a phone or tablet with you to read online scans verses the nice copy you keep all safe and pristine because you want that copy to stay perfect (and not going to be bent or breathed on or anything).
I still think that allowing unofficial digital copies increases the fandom which increases sales. I can point to success stories of people who started out writing fanfic for free and became best sellers, but I can't prove it with manga. Conversely, there is still no proof that anyone who was actually going to pay for a manga chose not to because she or he read it for free.
Doesn't it make sense to keep giving people links to where they can buy official copies, update them when official copies are available, and encourage people to buy when they can? If there is a sense in the fandom that buying is encouraged, doesn't it help more than scolding away potential sales?
It's not a manga, but here is a link to the comic Girl Genius (posted by its creators online for free): http://girlgeniusonline.com/newreaders.php
Here is a link to their kickstarter page, where they posted proof of high sales numbers on Amazon: http://girlgeniusadventures.com/2014/08/01/kickstarter-ebook-sales-seattle-steampunk-conventions/
Here is an interview where the artist says his business tripled within a year of posting the comic online: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24986
You can argue moral right (which is still arguable) or you can increase sales. Which is more important?
If you don't like the library analogy, how about radio? You can hear songs for free anytime on the radio (including getting only the songs you want to hear when you want to hear them through I heart radio, sirius, XM etc), but people still buy albums, and pay to download songs. I'm only going to buy an album that I know I like the songs to, so if I've never heard the songs I'm never going to buy the album or down load any of a singer's songs that I've never heard of.
There are lots of artists who do put their work out there for free and still sell their in print works. I purchased all 4 Chapters of Teahouse by Emirain that they put out in print (I'm still trying to find a copy of Chapter 5 that is for sale). Emirain put their manga out online for free, but you only got bonus stuff if you purchased the books. Most of their fans bought the books! Alex Woolfson also posts his yaoi comic The Young Protectors: Engaging the Enemy for free. The first volume of the Young Protectors is just now coming out in print and like most of his fans I'm buying a copy and will buy any additional volumes he puts out. Same with the Starfighter comic by HamletMachine, I own all 3 chapters they've put out in print so far and will be buying the rest as they come out even though the comic is on their webpage free.
The Last page of Chapter 3 (page 34 of 34) is missing completely. Also, the chapters aren't linked. When you reach the last page of each chapter it puts you back to the main page instead of going to the next chapter.
It works on my phone. Always did.
Works on iPad too.
On my cell everything works perfectly
I'm happy that this has become licensed as I plan to buy it when it comes out in English, like I do with all English yaoi. But not happy it is being dropped. Yes, I know it is being dropped because it is licensed. Still not happy. IT won't be coming out until next year in English and there are months between volumes. Sigh....hate that.
It's labeled Shota, so if you don't like that sort of thing, don't read it. It's a manga, not real life. Manga has lots of rape and other things that are horrible in real life, but ITS NOT REAL. It's make believe, no one is getting hurt so if people want to read it that is their right.
This manga was licensed and you can get it in English, so it was dropped by the scanlation group. There won't be any updates.
So happy this is being translated. Thank you!