They are still underplaying two murders! A reason like seriously, if you are not happy you just go and kill people! That's tragedy for sure but in front of criminals it's crime.
They all are pretty messed up. The most would be FL. It might be unpopular opinion but I think she is very selfish. All chapters it is just about I, me and myself.
She might be going through depression but other people might have suffer too. You can't just wake up a fine day and pretend things never happen.
The son according to me is very understanding. I am alright with flawed character, but maybe I am pissed that she was a terrible mother!
Well obviously... humans are selfish creatures.
What did the empress mean when she said I will be watching. Overall the chapter felt like she had good feelings standing as her mother. But that line got me.
Remember the statue was a gift to symbolize getting justice for her sister's or whatever family, that family that caused her to start wearing black etc. So she'll be watching if they make that promise true.
Yeah her children where all killed and then her best friends family died with a letter admitting their guilt for the death of the empress’s children. Reeks of suspicioun so she believes it might have been the emperor who did it
Yeah the emperor TOTES killed everyone she loved, so she is waiting for her to ruin him like she promised...and so are we :D
Ah gotcha. Thank you everyone!
Thank you!! Was totally lost in the chapter cause i couldnt remember (￣∇￣")
Wait, so the emperor killed his own children as well??? like his OWN CHILDREN????
yeah he didn't want anyone to take his thrown, like the king is a complete monster yo.
The story didn't specify that he doesn't want his children to take the throne because why would he allow Lawrence to live? Anyway, the point is he killed his children with the empress and as I can see he had some more profound hatred for the empress. I just hope at the end of this all they will hang that emperor for doing that and killing Cedric parents too!
It didn't? i thought there was a part where it was made pretty obvious that was the reason and his infatuation with the new chick was so much that he didn't kill Lawrence..but i may be thinking of another manga then.
You are remembering correctly. It was one of the first chapters when the nobles are all talking amongst themselves, and say, "He allowed a child to live?!" So apparently the nobles know that he killed the children as well, and they are curious as to why Lawrence is still allowed to live.
What has me confused though, is that apparently there IS a daughter still alive? And she has three children. So shouldn't THEY be the ones who are in line for the throne, and not the Duke and the illegitimate son? I think somewhere it might have been that that the three kiddos were girls, but even then, shouldn't there be some sort of precedence for such a situation? It has happened in plenty of other empires through out history, and often times lead to a kick ass empress. Queen Elizabeth is one who comes to mind right off the bat. Empress Wu Zetian is another.
Did the author just conveniently forget about the daughter?
Lawrence is her (the FL) older brother by the way, for those who are confused. Remember, he turns to his mother and says, "Yes that is the second mistake you have made, in ruining my life. The first was allowing her to be born." With that line, and the fact that you see her as a youngster staring our from behind her mothers skirts at him, you can establish that he is older then her. How much older is the real question. I would venture at least seven to ten years though, considering how much older he looked then her, when she was a child. He looked about sixteen.
The story is dragging. And it is kind of ridiculous that SL is attacking ML first when actual victim is ML(his mother and sis). N FL trying to convince the ML to forgive those people. Man where is justice!
And surgeries are no surprise, she successes everything without any modern device available ╮(￣▽￣)╭
The discrimination is UNREAL. Miss vanilla out here trying to make the poor man forgive and forget the people that MURDERED and FRAMED his mother and sister, when it's like how tf are you going to forgive someone that's not sorry? ML bitch needs to sit down and replace that OPness with some sense.
She didn't ask to "forgive and forget" them but rather to spare their lives and find another way to grieve other than revenge.
Revenge is clearly the unhealthy/worst possible choice considering that she already experienced the future where Linden heavily regretted killing his brother (or something along the lines where it didn't alleviate his grief at all).
So what you're saying is he should just leave them be? No justice for him, or his family?
What's the point of killing them if he's not going to feel good afterwards, what the FL trying to do is for the ML not to feel guilty as she already knows that he will not feel good even after having his revenge. The best way to solve this because realistically SL didn't do anything as well he's as well a victim of all this issue, no one will sit around to see someone kill his only family that he has left. The one who's really at fault here is the uncle, not even the SL mother who partially is at fault (she's basically did almost the same as the FL first life) but the uncle and the mother doesn't understand that the ML's mother and daughter are not at fault for being loved. Anyways too much text here ;-; I shall just say that dead will not remove the pain he suffered ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Death*
You can't say SL is victim, he might be but for his own choices. He is the one protecting and siding with criminals even after knowing the crimes were shamefully committed. If they are his family than Crown price is also his half-brother and victim on top that. Here the ridiculous thing is they never thought of apologizing and are the first one to attack to kill Crown price. Killing his innocent mother and sister wasn't enough? How can anyone justify a crime with another. I agree revenge might be a bad idea, but justice needs to serve one way or another. Supporting and hiding criminals are also crime. Handling them lawfully is direct and fairly judged option. When crown price becomes king, he will surely punish SL's mother and whoever was involved- chapter closed. There is no need of involving SL if they do everything by law.
I littleraly love you for this.
The point is justice. Think of it like a blm protest. A girl's brother killed her black boyfriend clearly out of spite, and although they are family and love each other her boyfriend deserves justice and her brother does not deserve to be freely roam around as murderer with no penalties whatsoever ESPECIALLY when he's not sorry, and in our case they're not. (Also the SL cannot be considered the victim when he is the one helping and hiding away the criminals in the first place, which also makes him an accomplice. If I am being honest I hate everyone in this novel except ML because all he cares about is letting his family rest peacefully (and the FML ofc) )
Love you too buddy. loved your thoughts, I hope the author take some smart way out of this. Sending virtual hugsヾ(☆▽☆)
Sparing their lives ≠ no justice
As Elise is thinking, there may be a better way for him to cope/get his revenge other than exacting death upon them (especially his brother). In the end, all it did was cause him another deal of regret and suffering, and it didn't seem like he was freed from his past after killing his brother in the previous timelines.
For example, there could be the complete stripping of authority and title, banishment and exile, imprisonment— there's plenty of ways to get justice without automatically resulting to the ultimatum of death (in this context, mind you).
Of course, if this wasn't a time-traveling story, Elise would seem really insensitive for suggesting such a thing to Linden. Common sense and courtesy dictates that you wouldn't normally say that to a person, especially to a loved one who is greatly burdened with it.
BUT taking into consideration, and I will reiterate, that Elise had already been in the ill-fated future before, she knows that it wasn't the better call to make to kill them as revenge. That's why she's trying to stall for time and avoid the worst-case scenario (with the bleak future happening all over again), even if it meant that she'd lose his trust.
Of course. Killing them isn't necessary but sparing them in any way SHOULD NOT be an option of elise. They are murderers there for they need to pay a price with or without their lives.
Yeah, as you said, so basically they CAN pay the price without being killed. In addition to the examples I gave before, there's some other modes of punishment: forced labor, torture, lifetime commitment to community service, sworn allegiance/oath— if we think about it (albeit extremely), there could be plenty of ways to make them suffer for a long time, and that'd possibly be way better than a quick death.
Given that Linden is good-natured deep inside, it would just terribly weigh down on his conscience to kill his brother even if he was affiliated with those who killed his family, and cooperated with them (though reluctantly). Elise knew this full well— she lived through that timeline after all. Sure, it might've given him satisfaction after killing them for revenge, but that was just temporary— the long term guilt was an added burden to Linden. It was pure agony for him to realize what he had done, and the Elise from before couldn't help Linden with it, but now she can.
Elise wanted to avoid that, as she believed there could he a better way to resolve this issue— to settle it without bloodshed, be it forcing Michael's faction to apologize and atone for the rest of their lives, or some other pacifist way.
So, yes, put it simply, it definitely is an option of Elise. That's simply who she is.
So physical touch, awakens power or let's the other person borrow the ability to watch the spirits! Still it doesn't make sense, the day that trash displayed her abilities .. that didn't seem like a mere illusion.
actually she got them the same day trash got them, remember and I think the trash touched her that day.
Im a lil confused too. I hope someone can explain. Thats why im scrolling through the comments section
Why they don't talk. I know it might be to build drama, but for this manga miscommunication has been base from chapter 1. Now it's boring seeing them go in circles.
They are definitely hiding something. Why would a king pay so much attention to a mere child and who adopts her. It's not like that bastard is her real father. It is just adoption and clearly against her will. Ahh I am so frustrated. Everything thing so fu**** up and those morons ahh!!!
Waiting on some chapters seems like good option right now. I want the emperor to be awake already.
Another SL syndrome for me.