I love karhan so much omfg biggest green flag ml that I know so far
Rashta is right. What she went through is TRULY unfair. She was born a slave and people who have been through that kind of trauma are the only ones who know how desperate you can get just for a half decent life. It’s easy for Navier to say “I’m not desperate enough to steal..” because she has never been in a position where she has to. Navier was born to have her basic physiological needs handed to her on a silver platter. Where Rashta went wrong, however, is simply just never leaving Navier alone. Rashta was already empress. No other woman could be of higher status yet she continues to pursue for something. I do feel bad for Rashta, and she’s completely right about the injustice of being in an autocratic societal system, but she used that to as leverage for the top and abused it. What’s happening to her now is the result of it. I don’t feel bad for anyone in this manhwa except for Rashta’s children
And the poor innocent bird that was hurt and traumatized by Rashta lol
Aweee poor woman born into a miserable life. So instead of wooing a normal noble man without a wife she became a homewrecker.
Ofcourse Navier isn't desperate enough to steal. And yes, she has it because she was born into a decent family. It's called "class". And you can't buy it or marry into it. Rasta is proof of that.
And no one is desperate enough to steal someone's husband. It's a character problem. As if Rashta didn't try to seduce Henry and that other Duke even after she had Soveishu.
She can marry ten emperors and she'll still never belong to the seat of the empress. I'm not sad for Rashta at all and will never be. Because her story portrays the fact that there are consequences to your actions and you must face them. Your past is never an excuse for being a shitty person and what you steal from others will never be yours, so she had it coming tbh.
Life isn't fair tho, but the actions she caused herself were lessons and it's her choice where to learn from them or not
I’m not exactly sure what to make of this comment. It’s pretty obvious that you have a black and white view of a world that’s clearly modeled to be complex. If we were to really dig deep and point fingers at who’s at fault then the only ones we can blame is the societal structure of this setting. “Class”, as you said, is the direct result of this structure. In a world of someone who is surviving by eating dirt and scraps, “class” will not even enter their mind. Who cares about the angle of your head as you’re talking to a person of a slightly higher status when you’re too busy trying not to die of hunger? Bringing up class in a discussion about the discrepancies of living standards between slaves and aristocrats is just tone deaf. But of course, this not me trying to excuse Rashta’s rotten personality. She made her personality pretty clear even when she already had what she wanted. Simply, I’m making a point about survival and human nature. When a rich man steals bread, there’s no excuse. He could’ve just bought that with money. But if a starving slave steals bread, there certainly is something to be discussed. In this analogy, Sovieshu is the bread Rashta needs to survive. Unfortunately, the bread already belongs to someone else. You are categorizing layered, convoluted characters into superficial constructs that take away the meaning of their roles. It’s true that Rashta is a villain. There’s no arguing against that. But it’s also true that her actions and her ambitions are the result of the unjust society she was born in. Her past, no matter how much people want to deny,
This might be one of the worst comments I’ve read on this site. Bro is out here WISHING to be ruled by a monarchy. “Born into class” what elitist bullshit. Can’t believe someone came out here pro-monarchy and pro-slavery and thought they were making a good point.
so is she pregnant? I need em spoilers baddd
Not yet.
The light novel doesn’t say whether she gets pregnant but it’s supposed to be inferred when they finally become a “couple”
TLDR; she will have 4 kids with Lucio. 1 son and female triplets.
She gets pregnant after the main story is over. After Rosemond is executed and when the Emperor refuses to divorce/dethrone when she requests that.
She learns to accept him. And due to pressure from the nobles (against Lucio's wishes) she has to recruit a concubine for the purpose of producing an heir. Even her own father pressures her into recruiting a concubine. Whereas, Lucio would rather they "adopt" a member of the cadet branch of the royal family.
Unfortunately, the woman Patrizia selects as the potential concubine turns out to be a nasty piece of work. Who is arrogant, ambitious, and unwisely does not know her place.
She turns up to a banquet and purposely dresses over the top to try and upstage the Empress. She audaciously approaches the Empress to introduce herself , only to insult Patrizia by bringing up her supposed "infertility" and suggesting due to this she isn't suitable to be an Empress because of her "defect". Miriya is with Patrizia and can't believe how rude the woman is and tells her she should not speak to the Empress that way. rather than aapologise Petunia (prospective concubine) snaps backs.
Lucio overhears the commotion and is not pleased since he can see Patrizia is upset. Petunia is in charm mode thinking this is her chance to "impress" the Emperor but instead he inquires what has just happened. Miriya informs him exactly what was said by Petunia.
Petunia then panics trying to retract but then confesses she did indeed say what was said.
She drops to her knees on the floor in fear.
Lucio scolds her publicly and suggests perhaps Patrizia's choice in concubine needs to be reviewed. After this shaming, Petunia is sent away and she lives the rest of her life in isolation.
Not long after this, the doctor who examined Patrizia during the "Empress Selection" contest meets her to confess something terrible he did and to reveal Patrizia was never infertile.
The doctor had purposely doctored her result, because he overhead Rosemond (the one who was really in charge of selecting the Empress) say that she wanted to selected teh girl from the Oswin? family (a once high-ranking house now lowered status after the previous Queen got dethroned and are the doctor's liege house) to be Empress because she would be easiest to "control" and dethrone.
To spare the girl that fate he put down falsely that Patrizia was infertile because he knew Lucio and Rosemond would select her instead if that were the case.
He apologizes profusely to the Empress for what he did he sacrificed her for the sake of saving another but he felt had no choice at the time.
And has been living with that guilt ever since doing whatever he could in "penance".
Although, she is clearly angry and upset Patrizia thanks the doctor for having the courage to tell her the truth otherwise she would have had to agree to allow her husband to take another to bed.
After the news, she rushes to Lucio to reveal the truth and they start having baby-making sex non-stop. She gets pregnant around a month later with a son called Dylan.
He looks like both of them.
7-8 years later after Dylan says he wants a "younger brother" they try for another child only to end up with three baby daughters (identical triplets that look exactly Patrizia - to the joy of Lucio). The girls each have their own distinct personalities.
well damn.. these bitches never learn lmao. and thank you for the spoilers
Tbf. Patrizia didn't really have a choice when it came to leaving Lucio.
After Rosemond was executed she packed her things and was ready to leave but needed the Emperor's permission.
She asks for a divorce and to be dethroned - he refuses.
She asks to be allowed to live far away somewhere remote away from the Palace - he refuses.
So she is stuck between a rock and a hard place. She doesn't make it easy for him at first he desperately tries whatever he can to "make it work".
I think eventually she warms to him to concede in order to make the best of a bad situation. Plus, dethroning her would be a waste since Patrizia took her duty and role as Empress very seriously and was good at it.
HUHHHH I CLEARLY MISSED SOMETHING LMAO WHAT CHAPTER WAS IT PLEASE TELL
I think can't remember exactly its after the main story, because its part of the side stories and there is ALOT of chapters before covering different side stories that focuses on the Alissa/Janet (Previous Queen and Lucio's mother) past, Petronilla's romance (which puts me to snooze), The Duchess of Ephreney, The Alternate Timeline (where patrizia and her family were executed) after the execution, yada yada.
It's aproximately chapter 127 part of the side story 4.
No wonder lol I kinda skimmed through it haha ty doe
i meant the other side hoe patrizia picked, rosemond 2.0.. they haven’t learned from rosemond’s execution and attempts to steal other people’s mans like.. :/ bitch you’re next
ughh I feel so bad for the dad. imagine giving your time, energy, and money to make sure your kid has a good life just for them to fuck up their own lives. Hae-in deserves it tho
yes, i feel bad for Mr. Kim too but not for Hae-in!
did they have kill him off like this genuinely livid at these ambrosetti bitches rn
Sorry I was trying to click on the upvote button but it selected the downvote one. Do you know a way for me to change it cause I totally vibe with what you said
as far as i know u cant change it but your comment is enough for me
Yes I know Rashta did some fucked up shit that makes me think she deserves a bit of what she experienced but at the end of the day, it was Sovieshu who started it all. He ruined his own fckn marriage because he’s so damn incompetent and can’t decide for shit and brought everyone else down with him. Rashta’s death was torture from start to finish. Sovieshu’s death should be worse but unfortunately that probably won’t be the case cause he’s the damn emperor and his status will protect him