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There's a post somewhere below that got me thinking guys, and I'm very interested to find out what other manga's my fellow VF Fujoshians read, love and more importantly, what kind of Seme's you all like, (and again - love!) and why.
I have my top 5 *all time* favourite Seme's from the BL Manga's I read (and of course VF's Asami may just top them all!)
- But who, are yours?……………….
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Asami, Motoharu from Punch up, Blood from Ice cold Demon's Tale, Havi from Crimson Spell, Aoe Renji from Love mode. The boss from Totally Captivated.
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From BL mangas, my favorite seme is probably Havi from Crimson Spell. My other favorites, in no particular order, would include Usagi from Junjo Romantica, Ueda from Honto Yajuu, Kurose from Ten Count, and maybe Morinaga from Koisuru Boukun. (I don't mind the possessive type if it's done well, but I think it's a bit overused tbh...)
From non-BL, I guess Sebastian from Black Butler tops my list. Though the Undertaker would also make a delicious seme.
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Mine with in no particular order but added fantasy/boyfriend. Some of my fantasy seme would not be boyfriend material to me.
Fantasy Seme
Asami (VF)
Aoe Reiji (Love Mode)
Kirishima Kei (VF no 3 ways though)
Usami Akihito (Junjou Romantica)
Takano Masamune (Sekaiichi Hatsukoi)
Real-life boyfriend seme
Ueda Tomoharu (Honto Yajuu)
Takano Masamune (Sekaiichi Hatsukoi)
Usami Akihito (Junjou Romantica)
Saki Hiroyasu (Kokoro series)
Sumizome Kaede (Katekyo!)
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Five. Crap, I hate being limited.
1. Asami. I honestly think he's putting on a huge front, and he actually WANTS to be tamed by Akihito. He's a little sexier the rare times he's been pinned down, than when he's the one doing the pinning. Then again, I can go either way...
2. Araki Hitoshi from "Hana to Ryuu". He's a big, muscular man who wears glasses in his "businessman mode". He's a former bodyguard for a yakuza clan... though he's still watching after the son of the now dead leader. He's got a perverted Clark Kent/Superman vibe going on... and he has a large, intricate dragon tattooed on his back. Oh! And he fights with a katana...
3. Will Lafette from "Border". Another big, muscular guy (you see a trend here?) This one is special forces. Actually, there's another character from the same manga, Sougo Kitaohji, who I think is better, but sadly he's straight. But of course this being yaoi, that could change at any moment...
4. Fukada Ryuuji from "Aozora no Sunda iro wa". Very kind, sweet, and sexy. He's an anomaly as far as my tastes, but for some reason there were several scenes in this manga that made my heart race oddly...
5. Sawada Kazuomi from "Hero Heel". Yes, he's a total asshole. Yes, I seem to be drawn to those types in real life, as well. I can't help it, he's hot-- in his villain costume he wears for the filming of the TV show... and in his regular street clothes... and naked...
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I don't know if I have 5 haha. Not in any order.
Maya from Hidouku Shinaide.
Doumeki from Saezuru
Also Will Lafette from Border.
Kabu from Kobi no Kyojin
Last one is a toss up between Asami or the doctor from Himegoto Asobi.
I don't read much yaoi at all, but if I went on about other stuff I read/ship there would be no end to this comment...
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I like Takano because I like the teasing, love-love types. Takano is different from most archetypical seme because he had a breakdown after his parents divorced and Ritsu went away. However, Takano picked himself up and became an editor in chief by age 28. He also didn't use his past pain to become a tsundere like Ritsu has.
All of my boyfriend choices are funny but are not stoic. I also like Maya's personality as well.
I think Kirishima is a seme. Did you see how he calmly walked from the helicopter? How about how he vowed to die with Asami? How "Takaba Akihito" irritates him? Ok, flimsy clues, but he's seme.
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Damnit, Doumeki! I knew I had forgotten someone...
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Kirishima kei The I can fix any thing any time man. I wonder if he's ticklish? he is a seme his gun says so. Souh's apron says so hahahahaha.
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With the absence of Asami, now I'm crazy about the Blonde Demon Blood from Koori no Mamono no Monogatari. He' s so Yummy and also overprotective xDD
I also love love love Maya from Hidoku Shinaide. He's so cute xD
I think other than these three, I don't think I have an interest in Seme in a same level as them
Oh well Asami is still untouchable in God level for me. Hahahaha xD
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My favorite manga and sometimes different than my favorite semes. For example, I like Ten Count and Caste Heaven, but the uke is what makes both of those interesting to me (more so in Caste Heaven). I like
Saezuru Tori wa Habatakanai and I'm not even sure how to explain that. I like Koisuru Boukun more for the uke.
I like the seme in the werecat Shingo stories. The seme in Rabbit man, Tiger man is cool too (but people always think I mean Tiger and Bunny DJs). I also like Mookyul from Totally Captivated. I guess I like strong semes who can deal with strong ukes (or interesting ukes).
I also like sekes who don't feel bound to one role.
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Just an observation, not a criticism, but Yoneda must be an awesome artist if an impotent man can make so many seme lists! That's SEME POWER.
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What do you think would be like if some of them met? would the room overflow with testosterone and they all drown in it(hahaha) or would mutual respect win the day?
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Asami is no longer seen smoking cigs. But after being in that room for ten minutes Smoking one Dunhill may not be enough. hahahaha
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Thank you! sorry I haven't replied, I've been too busy and tired to make sense of life - very excited reading some of these though!
And can I just say - speaking of Doumeki, how AMAZING will it be when he and Yashiro finally y'know - FINALLY DO IT - IIIIIIT! It will be the biggest pay-off in history. Can't. Freaking. Wait!
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Rules of a Seme convention 1 leave your lovers at home, 2 No guns inside the hall. 3 No spell bragging casting inside the the building ,( esp. Havi) 4 No about bragging about money . It causes to many fights. 5 No and I mean no selfies. yours Asami R
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my top favorite manga but not in order
"Kishidou Club Bangaihen" true love but revenge revenge, the seme is an asshole!
"Ikusen no Yoru" childhood friend a long story but not slow!
"Brother" (Ougi Yuzuha) and all of her work (i'm cheating here :D stepbrothers my weakness !
"I Want To Be Naughty" a long serie the i love the seme and the uke is CuTe
"i can't even breathe without you" a sweet story
may i add anotger manga i don'tknow who is the seme or who is the uke but the storyline is terrific !!!! "acid town"
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Maaaannnn, I want to go that convention. I'll volunteer to make their coffees! I wannna!!!! Seriously though, there should be a doujin out there with all these semes in one room. No conversation needed. They just need to be seen in one room, all of them!
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Top 5 excluding Asami (in no particular order)
* Tomoharu - Honto Yajuu
* Doumeki - Saezuru Tori wa Habatakanai
* Nonami - Usagi Otoko, Tora Otoko
* Konoe - Ze
* Moo Kyul - Totally Captivated
I love yakuza stories. But I like my semes in suit, smoking, tattoed, gentle, jerk, caring, possessive, and should look good in a kimono or yukata. (▰˘◡˘▰)
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I need something to revitalise my tired and weary soul….Oh, I know the perfect thing! > > > > A nice little challenge over the weekend!ヾ(☆▽☆)
I have always wanted to know people's ultimate FAVOURITE frame in ViewFinder. What moment for you do you look at every time and just melt, cry at or even find erotic. Anything goes, but the challenge is just ONE frame though, if you can pick!
Here's mine to start us off: I have SO many favourite moments. But for me maybe this one clinches it because it's the first time Asami does something like this, shows this amount of open affection for Akihito as he's lost in the moment…To actually call out his name like that and cling onto him….all the feels. All the feels.
Link NSFW!
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v05/c030/40/
Thanks for reading! x
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Hehe - mine is from the same chapter - http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v05/c030/13/
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Oh, that's a good one. It's hard to pick. This week, I'll go with this, because I love it when Aki is aggressive.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v08/c050/9/
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So tough but I have to go with the bottom frame here. It makes me melt:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v08/c051/19/
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Asami, top frame-- http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c039/18/
This gets me every time. I don't know exactly why.
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Something a little different...this bottom frame. Is friggin awesome. (I may be in shonen mood. ^^)
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v02/c005/4/
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http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v05/c030.1/40/
This makes me melt and somehow I think Asami is being sweet when he says 'That's what you need the most now'. My favorite panel of Asami and on the next page Aki's lovely smile...Awwww
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v05/c030.1/41/
Aki's top frame.
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It's nice to see how different everyone's choices are - just goes to show how stories affect people in different ways ^^ we all take things from it at different times too I think because the story has a bit of everything - And Asami is so damn hard to read whereas Akihito is just a little cutie so it keeps us coming back. I'm sure we all have hundreds of favourite moments!x
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Trying to pick one panel has literally sent me haywire, do I pick Asami's "don't touch my waifu's" face in the last chapter, his relieved face on the ship, his sexy face when they fuck on the kitchen bench (that one is high on my list)or his angry face when looking down at Sudou?
No. No. I can't decide at all, so I will just resort to the page that has made me flip my shit the most. http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v08/c053/17/
I'm not sorry.
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Was he that unpopular? I dunno, I love him :D
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I saw the results of (I think) 2 Japanese poles that they run in Manga mags and from that read a (translated) Q&A from Sensei saying that she would like Fei Long to make another appearance but not sure about Mikhail. BUT. My Japanese isn't good enough to say that any of those sources are totally legit though lol (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜 so maybe not. But regardless, I'm totally psyched!!!
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I totally get this, I love this chapter - and not just for the H stuff! - It's so intimate, comfortable it melts my heart. Beautiful!
I've also wanted to know though, (if you don't mind looking) - WHY Asami pulls this face when Akihito insists on drinking the same Beer as him. I can never figure it out!
Frame 2: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c039/13/
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Because he knows the beer is strong and Akihito can't handle his booze -
xref Tabaka's wonderful day and Love Suprise.
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Looking at everyone else's choices, they are all sweet and poignant moments... and here my choice is smut. Like Ashida, it was also hard for me not to pick the scene where Asami is taking Akihito on the kitchen counter, but those types of scenes affect me more than any of the others. I honestly don't know why. I guess I'm just weird that way.
Asami's "breathtaking" expression toward Akihito in the link you gave is because this is the first time Akihito is openly showing affection toward him-- without it being driven by extreme trauma (as it was in the Hong Kong arc) or under the influence of alcohol (such as it was after going to the bar with Asami).
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I think it's very rare for Asami having Akihito as drinking company at his penthouse because they normally have different living hours. And they both know Akihito's poor tolerance of alcohol which says they both also suppose the consequences easily. Plus, the biggest of all, Akihito offered it willingly, not forced or of result of some actions, so he is very surprised, I think.
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I know it's not strictly Viewfinder related but this has literally been bugging me since I started reading Yaoi YEARS ago, like I don't even know how long ago! And especially writing fiction about it as I have to wait to not be around people to write! Anywhoo….
How do you guys find having this kind of double identity, do you need to have a double identity? As a 'normal' person and as a Yaoi reading/loving person? Do your families know, friends. Is it hard?
I just ask because I do find it interesting, it's something that I don't want to be secret about, I'm not ashamed! - But I feel I have to be for other people's ideas of what's acceptable and don't want it to affect how people see me. (Only 2 of my friends I met in Japan know about it for example and I showed them Vol 7 of Viewfinder as a treat. And that only happened because I got PISSED and some guy actually mentioned Yaoi - cue me running off my mouth!!! Ha!) ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~ yummy!
Any thoughts, experiences you want to share? xx
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I'm not ashamed. I don't care, I too watch anime, read manga. I guess Im lucky in that they know my tastes.(family, friend) they don't judge. I don't judge them. You find people that support the things you care about. I don't write so I guess it can be hard to get that support if you have to hide what you do.
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I should clarify that I don't specify yaoi when I tell them I like manga. I will talk about popular main stream stories, and maybe drop hints. If the other person seems to know what seme or uke is, I may ask about a yaoi manga. Most people I know in RL don't really know what yaoi is (or even slash or MM romance), though I have tried to explain it to a few people. Mostly, they didn't understand when I was into vampires or steampunk or any number of stories I liked, and they don't really get this either. It's still cool though. I don't understand why people like hockey, or techno music, or any number of things that are perfectly fine for other people to do. To each his or her own.
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You pick and chose who you share things with. there are people in my family who know what I read. When don't sit down and chat about it but I don't knock them for liking woodworking programs. They don't see me as strange. It is who tell. you are'n leading a double life if you chose not to share your love of this manga with some one who would not like it or understand your tastes. That is just good manners on your part. That is why I come here to talk about it.
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I don't usually share my reading interests with people, but I don't really consider it a double identity. If I have read something really interesting, I might share the reading experience, but only if the other person seems interested in the topic. I find, as well, that people don't ask me what my specific tastes are, or if they do, I tell them that I read a little bit of everything (which I do - I am omnivorous when it comes to reading material) so this issue never really comes up.
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I don't think of it as a separate identity, it's that the manga I read is explicit and I don't discuss explicit sexual matters with friends and family. I think it would make them very uncomfortable. I don't want friends or family to discuss whatever porn/erotica they like with me either. I do have one friend who is very prone to oversharing about her sex life and it's so awkward and stops all conversation (and people invite her and her husband out less as a result.) So it's just manners, I think. Most people don't need or want to know that kind of detail, and if someone is interested in finding out they generally make that interest known.
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Lol I think that's where we differ, to me - it's fine for main stream to have movies/books like 50 shades or true blood, both crazy sexual and explicit. I'm not saying talk about sex. But my point is, you as a woman saying that you enjoy male on male romance stories is downright crazy, disgusting even to a lot of people. But if you guys don't have those issues then that's great.
I'm glad you guys haven't met any resistance like that… x
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Little things I mean by this post are, say - not being able to keep copies of VF or Saezuru for example on your bedroom shelf, for fear of someone reading it. Having several Yaoi windows/material on your computer up when 'oh no!' Someone asks to quickly borrow your computer - and you have to make up an excuse to get ride of them and clear your history. Those are the things I mean by double life…x
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Ah but you see that was my point, that it is a (big in some cases) part of you, your kinks, tastes in books, what you do with your time - all of which you talk about with friends (if they are actual friends) but you don't mention yours, they mention theirs and it's usually so boring you want to shoot yourself lol but, I may have miscommunicated... I just sought to get a sense of what other fujoshi's go through, like nights where you are with a group of people you love and SHOULD be able to say this stuff to….wanting to just be like 'fuck it' I LOVE Yaoi, I love watching some hot guy, fuck another right in his asshole. But you can't, so I just wanted to know anyones double identity woes lol. x
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Surprisingly there is quite a bit of distaste toward anime and manga too, I have found that a lot with friends and even at work they mention it like it's a bad word, or their crazy aunt that just got sectioned. But yes, Yaoi exclusively, I just wanted to know all those little things that make it hard to be an in the closet fujoshi - like for example, I had VF Vol 7 as my phone wallpaper, it made me happy. But then a friends wanted to borrow my phone - cue the cold sweats. Just things like that which make you feel you have a double identity. x
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my best friend and i are both Fujoshi's. her parents know she watches anime and reads manga's, and ever her younger brothers watch anime somtimes, just shoujo for the brothers though. they don't know she watches yaoi but she doesn't have to keep it a secret. I do, when i was twelve, my dad said that i should stop watching disney chanel and nickolodeon because it was for little children and instead watch animal planet or discovery ID. I mentioned anime and manga's once or twice and when i show my dad a video (carameldansen at that point) i got the reaction "when will you stop watching such childish things" so i just stopped talking about it with them. i'm not embarrassed or ashamed that i am a fujoshi but i really have to put up a mask and hide my "fujoshi crazyness" behind a facade.
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I have had gay friends raise legitimate issues such as why female fantasy would objectify and fetishize male-on-male sex, and why gay and bi men are often shunned by yaoi fans and told the books are not for them. I usually point out that my gay friends objectify males and gay sex quite a lot (though I know it is different when a woman does it). I think it is an issue that we should talk about sometimes and be aware of, but that since it is fiction, it gives people a chance to explore issues that speak to them, even if there may be some unrealistic and potentially harmful stereotypes we should be aware of. I would also try to get people to welcome any bi or gay men or any one has an interest in the genre, while admitting the fantasies often show how some women would like to see men, at least in context of the stories. The truth is, many gay men won't find what they are looking for in yaoi, and yaoi isn't at all a realistic representation of anything (Consider the portrayal of Yakuza or priest in yoai). But they are good stories, with hot, romantic men and no annoying wimpy empty-headed female love interests who exist solely to be the man's lover (though I admit some ukes play that role).
Ultimately, I like it for the story as much as for the sex (well, in some cases there isn't much story, but it is funny). So I think there are things to discuss with people who are willing, but most people won't even know what kinds of stories you are talking about, so there isn't much point in talking unless you know someone is interested.
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Since I'm an independent adult, I don't hide anything. My BL manga is all over the place and people in my private life chuckle over my interest in "gay manga". I don't discuss it with anybody just like I don't discuss my interest in perfume, because many people just aren't interested. I go to the internet to discuss with others who are interested. I had the picture of Akihito and Asami in back of the limo with champagne as my work computer wall paper, but I took it down because I don't want the IT people fixing my computer to be uncomfortable. We've come a long way, but some straight males are still uncomfortable with gay love and it is the work place, not home. Yes it is a double standard because a shoujo equivalent would not make anybody uncomfortable.
At home, I do what I like and my wallpaper is Akihito and Asami and I don't care who sees it. I also read BL on public transportation but I try to be discreet around kids and elderly. I also read fanfiction and enjoy that too.
Just as an aside, I find that Viewfinder fans are very intelligent and have stimulating discussions. Not saying other fans are not as smart, but there are many boards where most of the comments are about how hot somebody is. VF readers dive deep and sometimes disagree, but we all love VF.
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I see what you're saying but no one I know talks about FSOG or True Blood either, so I think not talking about erotica use is part of a more general taboo here. People talk about fsog and tb disparagingly (badly written, poorly plotted). I'm sure some of the people I know really like them, but they woukldn't say. Women talking about enjoying m/m is taboo, but men talking about liking f/f or whatever other type of erotica would also be taboo and I wouldn't expect people to have erotic screen saver of any kind, for example.
I think yaoi is seen the same as slash fanfic, n
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I dont have anyone in my life who knows that i read manga and yaoi. I do have 50sog in my bookshelf but i know that if i would tell people that hey i read manga and yaoi, it would create uncomfortable situations and i dont want that. People can be really closeminded and talk shit all the time.
I have friends that know that i read manga when we were kids and its like a joke that ''hey remember when u were a crazy manga fan'', and im like ''yea, those times''. And when i go home i read the new chapter of bleach.
I just dont want them to treat me differently or ask me like why do you read it and stuff. I go drinking with them and can talk openly about sex and stuff, but i could never tell them about this xd
It doesnt really bother me though cus everyone has things that they wanna keep to themselves so, this is just mine
And incognito-pages and deleting history is very familiar to me XD
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I do genuinely think that they are the ones missing out ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ which is why I just find it interesting that so many people think they are open minded when they are really not, it's like you want to tell them to stop talking shit lol and in a way, I would love to test my friends and be like 'hell yeah, 2D gay bum sex rules!' Just to see their little closed off minds freak out.
Also, I am an out and proud Anime/Manga fan and yes ppl are definitely weird about it for some reason - couldn't care less but my friends do see it as childish etc, but I think their boring ass tastes in life are weird too so we're good. Thanks! x
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I understand what you mean. For me, I don't think of it as a double identity but as a part of me that I can't reveal to everyone. And sometimes, it bothers me. I live alone so I generally don't have to hide my books but when someone makes me an unexpected visit (it depends who it is), I sometimes worry and hope they won't see the BL books that I'm reading and which can be on the table or on the sofa.
My family knows and my ex-boyfriend knew as well. However, my friends aren't aware of my readings. My family is open-minded and thinks that I can read what I want so it's not a problem with them. I even lend my books to my sister who also likes reading BL, but she's not as "fan of yaoi" that I am. So, we don't talk much about it.
I don't particularly hide the fact that I like BL, and I'm not ashamed of it but I'm not comfortable in certain circumstances. I know there're prejudices against BL and I wouldn't like, for example, that one of my coworkers see me buy a BL manga. That's why, I buy my books via Internet. But this morning, for the first time of my life, as I was wandering in a big book store which belongs to the supermarket that I'm used to go (so do some of my coworkers), I saw the tankoubon of Junjou Romantica which was recently released here, in France. I hadn't bought it yet and was planning to do it on Internet. It was the only BL books of the store.^^ And I bought it. Small victory!^^ I can tell you that I was not at ease and I hid it with another book that I wanted to buy but I was really happy to have taken it in the store.
It can sound ridiculous, but for me it was like a way to say: I can read what I want, I love reading yaoi and BL aren't shameful! But I still have some work to do on myself because I wasn't totally comfortable buying it there and that fact also bothers me.^^
I think that we are lucky to have the possibility to talk on Internet about BL with other people who share our tastes. And I'm glad we can tell our opinions without judgment and to be understood.
One of the BEST Manga's out there, with one of the WORST endings! Such a let down ╥﹏╥
Tsk....your wronge it had a good ending sasuke finally noticed Naruto just what natuto wanted from season one and no more war until boruto the movie and naruto is hokage and he married hinata ...so you were wronged it had a awsome ending
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Not wrong, it's a matter of opinion :)
I'm talking about the end only (mostly Boruto) so more about Sakura and Sasuke marrying/having children - which does NOT make sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She gave up on him and intended to even kill him, she was only in love with the idea of Sasuke from day 1 - not Sasuke himself. She doesn't understand anything about him. Naruto is the ONLY person to stand by him and understand him. I don't agree that Sakura deserved that happy ending.
And also Naruto and Hinata together doesn't make sense, she's as interesting as a potato. Just because she felt the need to defend him doesn't mean them as a couple work. Subjective of course but it's how I see it.
I don't think sensei should have matched anyone up at all at the end.
But in terms of Sasuke realising the error of his ways, great! That wasn't the ending so not what I was talking about really.
Well you are true its your opinion
ikr Sasuke x Naruto fo life ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶