Greenhouse's Favorite

"no males are born" why the fuck is a man on my screen then.

Ok so I wanted to save my comments for the next chapter before the last one and here are my silly little thoughts:
1 - monkyeon is whipped, and I'm glad he finally recognized his feelings other than dismissing it as lust.
2 - nanjo is still so very much a mystery to me. why let monkyeon come into his house? your house is a especial space, you don't just let someone in. i wonder to what extent he's doing this for sw, because atp it feels like he's doing it per pure curiosity. he's a business man, how can he be so easily manipulated? it just doesn't make any sense to me. he's either into monkyeon and haven't noticed, or he's plotting some shit.
3 - monk and nanjo's relationship rely, obviously, on sex. however, considering chapter 21 and 22, now there's been some kind of shift on both parts. monk doesn't see nanjo as a prize anymore, and nanjo seems more willing to play along.
4 - bro, it hurts to see how much monkyeon just wants some attention and affection, something that is unrelated to sexual. he might be a little perv, but deep down he is very romantic.
5 - the earrings. monk's request for a piercing felt very symbolic to me. it's like he's trying to equal his relationship with nanjo with the one nanjo has with sw. nanjo "displays" his affection by showering sw with gifts, which is the only reason the little evil twink is with him, and monk knows that. for me, it felt like by asking for nanjo to GIVE something to him, he was claiming that he too has a least a little spot in nanjo's life/heart.
6 - lastly, i hope there's no sex for some chapters lol i wanna see real development now. wanna see how they behave and act with each other outside the bedroom.

Soo I have ADHD and I have decided against my better judgement that I’ll be wasting my time writing about the novel spoilers instead of working rn pls help
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Spoilers:

So at the ball, Ail dances with Salina and Luce thinks how beautiful and perfect they look together. Jealous and dejected he goes to the balcony to get some air and gets down from the balcony with Elsen. Ail likes Salina as in she’s ambitious and bold, perfect for the role of empress. And after the dance, Ail looks for Luce inly to find him laughing, having a good time and practicing dancing in the garden with Elsen. Ail gets so mad at the sight of them and recalls how Luce only ever acts wary in front of Ail, yet he laughs so easily when he’s with others. He’s overcome with jealousy but doesn’t realize it. Luce’s hand wound reopens so Elsen and him goes to his room to dress the wound and encounters the prince waiting inside Ail’s room. I forgot what conversation they had but prob not something pleasant lol. The prince leaves.

From then on, the prince makes a deal with Salina to deal with 2 birds with 1 stone, a.k.a removing Elsen and Erina(was it? Elsen’s crush) and trap Luce so he can never get away from him. Salina would gain the crown princess position out of this deal.

Later, it is announced that Elsen ran away with Erina causing treason (when in reality it was Salina and Ail’s plottting, Salina is keeping the two inside her mansion.) Ail orders Elsen to be killed on sight and sends a search party all over. Panicked, the other friend of Luce persuades Luce to go see the Prince to change his mind and Luce goes to see him as Ail planned. He begs him but their relationship is not built on trust and is purely exchange-based, so the prince asks what he can give to him in exchange. He then tells Lice to give him his body. Luce, backed to a corner have no choice but to accept. And the prince asks him to give him a head. Luce sucks at it obviously but that turns on Ail so much. Ail even dreamt of ravishing Luce in his dream the night before. Well they proceed to the bed, and Ail, without preparation, penetrates Luce. They have hot steamy sex but poor Luce. They talk about how it was Luce’s first time and how no one has entered his hole blah3 the prince is rough with him and wants him to remember this pain (I forgot the reason). Luce screams and cries in pain at first but feels pleasure afterwards.

The next morning, Luce finds out that he was stripped of his Commander position and is to stay in the Northern Palace to become his lover/concubine. Luce is shocked as he thought it was a one night. The prince tells him he sold his body to him, so he’s in the prince’s possession.

The prince starts to feel displeased and pained at some of his interactions with Luce as he is oblivious to his feelings and just want Luce to love him, look at him, smile gently, warmly at him like he does with others. But stupid fuck dunno how to beg or ask or doesn’t know what he’s feeling is love rn (not just lust).

Luce then asks for permission to go see his mother as she has fallen ill. This is an excuse to go look for Elsen. The prince agrees and sends guards with him to the Kaizel estate. There, Luce changes clothes with the doctor and escapes with his other friend. They change carriage etc. the prince feels uneasy like Luce is getting away from his grasp so he goes to the estate only to find that he’s gone. The mother tells the prince that Luce is stubborn and if Luce will rebel fiercely should he try to take him force, but if he want to have him, he should try gentle persusasion etc. Ail tells her that Luce is his bla3 and he orders Luce to be brought. Here, Luce hears that Elsen and Erina were trapped in Salina’s estate and all of this was the prince and Salina’s plot. He feels betrayed but he has a tiny sliver of hope that the prince is doing all this bcs he wants Luce by his side that he loves him just a tiny tiny bit.

He then willingly goes back to confront the prince about his ploy and his intentions behind it. They have very emotional conversation, Luce can’t tell the prince that he loves him and the prince doesn’t know why’s he’s doing all this. Things escalate badly, they both hurt each other with their words, Luce decides to leave and Ail’s mind literally blanks out and is filled with madness at the thought of Luce leaving him, causing him to strangle Luce almost at the verge of death. Ail wad then petrified at what he had done and he ran away bc he might harm him again. He then orders 3 knight order to stand guard in the northern palace, and nobody to enter, isolating Luce. Ail also realizes that he will go mad (literally) and will die without Luce. Also Ail lashed out at Luce before strangling him that he’s just a dog to him, and he abhors the idea of his loyal dog leaving him willingly without his consent — which he didn’t mean it but he so emotionally constipated lol and this breaks Luce’s heart)


It’s now Ail’s coming of age ceremony that will be held for days. Ail only visits Luce at night in fear of how Luce will look at him and what they’ll say to each other. He is extremely gentle and is longing in his touch when he visits him at night. Luce starves himself. Ail threatens to slash the servant’s hands each time he refused to eat. Luce starts throwing cruel words at him which he deserves and shuts off his heart. The prince is pained inside. And one night, when he was a bit intoxicated, tossing away his pride, he asks for Luce to give his heart to which he scoffs at and throws sarcastic mean words at him to which the prince loses all hope to rectify everything and that Luce’s heart is closed now. Soooo they throw punches at each other, Luce bites Ail’s lip when he forcefully kissed him. And they have another sex.

Okay that’s it so far. I’ll write the continuation when I get home. Srsly need to work rn.

i think that a young past!yeon was the one who linked past!yeon amd past!kihoon and since their red string was forced/not real, it lead to a bad ending. the red string that connects current!yeon to the current!kihoon is probably just the false/forced red string from their past life that got reactivated when current!yeon prayed to the stone (not knowing he had a previous 'deal' with the stone in his past life) and the red string connecting current!yeon to that cutie with short hair is his current life's real red string partner.

the misfortune that current!kihoon experienced throughout his whole life was probably reparations for how past!yeon made a false red string connecting him to past!kihoon which might also be the reason why past!yeon died(got killed?) which left past!kihoon the sole bearer of two people's misfortune which carried onto his next life.

if current!kihoon didnt go to the stone with current!yeon, their red string wouldnt get reactivated and i fully believe that they would've gotten together without it.

Is dylan a bitch?

Because i dont get this story. But so far thats what im understanding here.

I like poly but this is the first time I'm glad a threesome didn't carry out, because why would I want to see him get railed by an unknown minor character that've shown up just now and will disappear after one fuck? he's precious to me, I don't want no random man violating him. maybe I would like it if he was a main character who makes frequent appearance, and will become a part of the relationship later on, or prominent to the story, or just someone who has a strong connection with him from a long time. otherwise it feels like cuckold with no string attached.

However "The secret life of the demon king" is an exception, since bedding with random men is his job. especially when getting held by his servants, after all they weren't strangers. they're someone who cares, loves, and devoted to him, not those that only lust after his ass or see him just as a sex object with no emotional attachment.

for a freaky story, they look so cute and wholesome. especially Milkton, I love him so much. I wanna hug him, pinch his cheeks, shower him with love, pat him on the head, go on a picnic, cook together, make cheese together, and so on. I'll pick a flower and put it on his ear while caressing his hair.

Mpreg better be possible

i came here after seeing some queer manga recs and thought it was a gl?? lol who queerbaited me T^T

the good ending (im grasping at straws here, bc i meed to delulu to cope with the, the ☹)

jingi and myeongi get rehabilitated together, being each ofhers support system (but in a healthy way where the dynamic is kinda like "we been through some shit together, we fought and made up then fought again and learned things the hard way. and theres some sexual tension between the two).

heonjae, learns to care for myeongis siblings and in turn learning empathy, how to care for others and himself, finds a job that works for him (prob some physical labor, he wouldnt do well in customer service) and grows and matures as a person.
i specify children because theyre very blunt, easier to read than passive aggressive adults. and their emotional needs are pretty straightforward (i feel liek heonjae would appreciate that). also because children are in need of protection, and heonjae has a really intense need to 'protect' (and thats being generous, hes prob closer to "they cant leave me because i have insane abandonment issues and only so little people get to know me and like me so i need to cling onto the ones that do stay around me or else ill die alone and ill be sad and ill do bad bad things." probably.) so it works well. and itll be a balancing act because children also need to go out into the world to learn and grow as people. they need their own autonomy and heonjae learning to respect that would be ideal. oh plus, children grow up fast and eventually that means theyll leave you because theyve grown and have their own goals and life to live. but they still love you all the same (and i think that sort of secure attachment would be good for heonjae. knowing that even though they may be moving on and they wont see each other as much, knowing that they still love him and care for him would do wonders on his healing journey)

caring for children is a challenging thing to do, but its definitely a learning experience (one that heonjae needs real bad) and can be rewarding watching them grow into their own little people
but if he pulls some stupid shir, detain his ass and throw him back into the cellular.

while the uncle is tied to a five ton brick and thrown into the han river. or somewhere else, i feel like just knowing hes in there would make me sick. maybe get a helicopter to fly his ass over to the middle of the ocean to become fish food. then maybe he could have a "positive" impact in the world as fish nutrition. bleh

Honestly, I think it's fair to want more verse (and switch!) couple representation. Most queer men are verse or have at least tried both roles, but like 90% of BLs have exclusive top/bottom couples. I don't think that every couple should be verse (nor that this couple should definitely be verse), but how disproportionate it is to real life is giving heteronormative and fetishization (which is a whole can of worms ).

Although it's definitely weird how people want the couple to be verse only when they are both buff. Some people definitely demand it just to fit their personal preference rather than considering the characters' dynamic. I feel like they're seen as "equals" in the relationship and are both often portrayed as "having top energy" (aka from how they look, there isn't a portrayal of your stereotypical top and bottom), which means they both are seen to have the potential to be on top — something a stereotypical BL couple doesn't have.

Is it really too much to ask for more twink tops with buff/"average" bottom? Or a twink couple?? I think it's fair to want BL in general to have more variety as well as better and more accurate representation, because so much of it is based on stereotypes, is very unrealistic, or is problematic (so much damn romanticization and normalization of noncon and dubcon — for example, just the straight-up pornographic rape or the sex scenes where the bottom says "it hurts," "no," and "stop," and the top doesn't stop. Like dude, even if the bottom is feeling pleasure, you should always listen to your partner and make sure they're comfortable, thx

Alright. This novel is not new. Just a few years old. I think it was released in 21 or 22. Anyways, this novel has been revised now. Initially this novel had some aspects which were severely protested by the korean readers such as the resemblance to nth room case and bestiality. The new versions on ridi and bomtoon has replaced the bestiality (dog) with a sex machine so you might not see the dog sex scene in the webtoon. Though it did happen in the first version. I have read it myself. There is no love till the end. The relationship is of kind of mutual dependence where ML and MC are broken because of each other but can’t live without each other as well. ML due to his obsession of revenge and MC due to his trauma. The ML doesn’t regret anything. Well atleast in the first version he doesn’t. He has broken MC but the satisfaction of that is lukewarm. At the end of novel, it is like ML has now taken over MC and now will keep him with him as a toy/plaything or a pet. It’s just like you have something useless but can’t throw it away for whatever reason so you keep it with yourself stored at home.

All of this is happening because Jiwook used to bully and sexually assault the ML in middle school. Jiwook was initially good with ML AND he was attracted to ML as well. However due to the fear of homosexuality and afraid of peer pressure, he started bullying and sexually assaulting ML after ML confessed to liking him or being gay.

The abuse involved sexually assaulting ML with his friends, like forcing him for blow jobs, rape etc. the last abuse ML suffered was when Jiwook added a bunch of vibrators in his ass and bound him and left him in the washroom near library. One guy was on duty of keeping an eye on him but Jiwook never came back. The ML was super scared and was rescued by the security guard at night. That was day ML’s mom came to know about the abuse ML suffered because he hadn’t been to home that day due to being locked in the washroom. Also, from that day MC stopped paying attention to ML just on a whim, he left him in washroom and just decided that he should now study.

ML’s sexual pics were being circulated around by Jiwook so ML’s mom also happened to see them. From then she hated the lipstick and color red I think (it’s been long since I read it) because in the pic ML had some writings written on him with red lipstick. ML’s mom mental health deteriorated and got admitted to hospital.

ML was initially a very sweet boy buy due to the abuse and bullying he suffered, he became twisted and wanted to take revenge on Jiwook. Then when Jiwook lost his memories of the ML, the ML became more deranged because according to him, only he was suffering and stuck in the past which everyone eventually forgot and moved on from.

Now onto the abuse Jiwook suffers, there is gangbang on two occasions I guess. Both planned by ML. First is similar to nth room case, where ML shares Jiwook’s sexual pics to different people who wants to bang him and has grudge against him. The men will beat him brutally, rape him brutally, and even try to drown him in water basin in pretext of washing his mouth since MC vomited after being punched badly. The rape is really bad. When the men are done, they will take pics and send then to ML. The ML’s thoughts were that he will have to clean up the mess they left on MC and that he didn’t think they will go so hard on MC. No remorse though. Just a apathetic sorry to MC because he expected them to rape MC but not so hard.

The second gangrape is done extremely brutally which is actually allowed by ML. ML even wants it to be done brutally to punish MC. When MC is losing his mind due to abuse in the gangrape, ML is like why are you losing your mind already? The gangrape involves beating, using baseball bat (I think) to fuck him, using urethra plug to force him to ejaculate him again again with pain, urinating in his mouth and asshole, it’s extremely disturbing.

MC will keep asking what he did that ML is doing this to him but ML will not tell until the last gangrape. After the last gangrape, MC will awake in hotel and regain his memories. He will apologize to the ML. Now he is broken and damaged beyond repair. He is so afraid to even go outside without ML because he thinks those men will come again and rape him. Thus he wants to stay with ML . Stockholm syndrome is beginning and will fully kick in the side stories.

The dog bestiality scene is in side story 2 but it has already been changed to a sex machine after the protest.

My pet peeve with this novel is that if it’s marketed as a revenge story and something that will depict the pain sexually abused people feel then it does a pretty shitty job at that. ML is shown to have become completely psychopathic. Given he was abused, given he wasn’t given justice, given his abusers were free but the time he raped and allowed other people to become sexual abusers just like him, he no longer comes in the category of victim.

An eye for an eye, if we go with it then how can you guage the emotional suffering someone has suffered. MC was so brutally abused, broken and even stripped of his humanity with the bestiality scene that do you really think they are on equal foot now? What about the people who gangraped MC? Aren’t those sexual abusers? Is there any difference left between MC and ML. Does degrading someone so much equals to the suffering the ML suffered? Kill Jiwook, beat him up but this whatever the writer wrote nowhere justifies anything. The name “walk in my shoes” is fucked up joke.

This is a fetishized work, because in the end the focus is not on empathy or regret but rather sexual abuse, the degradation and ultimately whatever the author could jam to make it disgusting. Even the thoughts, the dialogues, they are super apathetic. There was a brilliant way to go about this novel if it really focused on the theme of revenge. There are many dark novels/works in the world but this doesn’t even come close to it. It is disgusting porn in disguise of novel.

The people criticizing others who are leaving bad reviews, do you guys even know what the review section is for? It literally asks people to give their thoughts about the work so other audience can know what people thought of this work. If someone wants to say it’s bad or good, they are literally given a section that “here tell people how you felt about it”. That’s the review section. Anything that comes on internet as a means of entertainment or media for people, people do have a right to give their opinion about it. What's so fucking difficult about it? Author and artist can write and draw disgusting shit like this but people can’t even openly give their review? The fuck kind of mentality is that? If you enjoy it then comment that you enjoyed it and be on your way. Stop dictating others to not leave bad review or shut their mouths.

fun theory that the pavlov mention is foreshadowing. the mc will have character development and become more like the experimenter than his dog

That study that showed post pandemic literacy levels are abysmal is so true and this fandom and other bl fandoms should already be case studies. I don't know where critical thinking skills disappeared to when it comes to reading even if it's porn fiction.Most readers don't even read in between the lines anymore. Y'all like parroting terms like manipulation to look like you understand what you are reading when most of you don't do research on the shit. I swear I bet none of you have psychology degrees to back your shit up with years of intelligence. Y'all don't even look up stuff you just say it na hope it sticks.

My question is how is nanjo being manipulated by blondie?? Manipulation always requires a power dynamic of sorts. And bfr someone even says it just because nanjo's a bottom that doesn't mean he doesn't have power let's get that out of the way. The blondie made a deal as a joke and guy just accepted it. He says he likes the redhead but how can you say yes to your cheeks being pounded to 'protect' your beloved?Even if they ain't dating isn't that micro cheating?? Y'all are obsessed with bottoms being victims that you'll pull anything out of y'all's asses. Nanjo is a grown man that could have said no especially to a man he doesn't even like. He wasn't held at gun point. He wasn't coerced. He wasn't even tricked he just accepted a very ridiculous deal and y'all are acting like that's blondies fault. You say blondie is manipulative but don't say red head is manipulative for telling him to have a threesome he didn't want? Is manipulation only applicable when nanjo's the one being penetrated? Manipulation involves power plays, how is the blondie exerting power on nanjo when nanjo can always do what he wants??? Y'all just can't admit that bottoms like him are just stupid.

Blondie has a crush on nanjo. He was being playful and even he thought he'd be shot down when he made that deal so how is he being manipulative???

Another thing y'all need to stop learning about sex from porn. Saying nanjo is being raped is wild. We know he's never bottomed so why would y'all think it wouldn't be uncomfortable even when consent is given?? Penetrative sex for the first time ranges from uncomfortable to pain oftentimes depending on the receivers ability to relax. Nanjo is not relaxed at all through this and it's not blondies or his fault. His body is not used to getting dicked down yet and that's just normal first time things. Penetrative sex is a process tbh it takes time for the body to adjust just like so many things. Also the heteronormative sex positions for the first time in most BLS ain't it. For anal sex spreading your legs is really for the pros. For beginners the legs need to be closed so that the anal muscles can be stretched and open up the hole more so it's less painful during penetration. Doing missionary on an anal beginner is just terrible but that's the creators fault and all other bl creators for their lack luster interpretation of homo sex.

I know I'm about to be called a rape apologist and told to kill myself for thinking like this but do with this information what you may.

to those who read the novel.. could you spoil me how this ends? i already got the gist of why the ml is doing this to the mc, just wanna know how this ends..

okay, now that the translation is here, its even more obvious that monkyeon has some feeling for nanjo, but i wouldn't say love nor passion.. there's just something getting born, and he himself is afraid because his attraction to him is lasting longer that it usually does (apparently). he is a little twisted, yes, but i don't think he is evil, definitely not a red/black flag.
nanjo... his character is so interesting to me. he's definitely a devoted one, or maybe just really stubborn, or maybe his pride is his greatest prize, because tell me why is he doing all this for that twink? why put himself in this position? he's either really naive/innocent or he just doesn't want to recognize that he's getting played by the twink. at least monkyeon is honest with his intentions, and that's why i like (also why many are hating him).
anyways this is going to be a hell of a good ride

Bet my ass this pretty homosexual that came for seunghyun is someone from his past in japan and they know eachother

and here we aaareee HERE WE ARE hahhh he left his brother to die man i still can't believe he's doing all this shit for myeongil while they've only known each other for whaat a few months heonjae baby boy listenn to me you have to stand with ur brother ok he's the only one who takes care of you stop thinking with your dick your uncle is coming for him and you'll probably be the next target

anyone got recommendations for this kind of duo? cunning uke, puppy seme haha