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I've been trying really hard so far and I just can't anymore.
He is still not pregnant despite the title, author keeps writing assault as something to "get over", I thought the parents getting involved would end up bringing some actual development but we just ended with another character that was presented as a villain, coming back as a "funny" character telling him to "get over it" again... I like the art but the story is just way too poorly written...
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I absolutely love how the author dealt with the abuse and trauma caused by it and then Naoto overcoming his past by finding real love with Hazuki! It is short but has such a great character development that we rarely see in yaoi. Makes me cry, laugh, get extremely angry but at the end I'm left feeling happy and satisfied. A real masterpiece!
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Everyone is talking about poor Chanwoo, but let's recap a bit. MD tried being kind to Chanwoo and he didn't want it and asked to be just dom and sub, then hooked up with someone and wanted to keep both relationships going (which he always did with his past boyfriends), then wanted to introduce his new hookup to the guy he rejected to ask for permission to keep both (which he's never done before) while knowing that MD doesn't want his identity known by other people. Then his hookup asks to take his place as MDs sub and MD places a test to decide who he'll keep and his one condition is that his sub has to obey his every word and when failing to obey, Chanwoo gets slapped... Everyone loses their shit for one slap when back in the early stages of their relationship, MD whipped the crap out of Chanwoo AFTER the play was over to assert his dominance and everyone thought it was amazing and sexy. Correct me if I'm wrong but Chanwoo isn't chained to the wall and could walk out whenever he want, right? Unlike that time when he was literally tied up and couldn't leave, so why was it ok back then but now MD is a monster? #makeitmakesense
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BDSM where dom is mixing his feelings and grudge with a play? Where he is taking his anger out on the sub because he had audacity to reject him? Where he makes sub participate in the play and things he is uncomfortable with under disguise of BDSM scene? And he knows sub won't refuse because of conditions he put on him and they are impacting his choices. What's more it was shown that Chanwoo has problems with limits, he didn't say anything while being strangled to death and MD is fully taking advantage of that. He isn't interested in the other sub in the slightest, he is just getting petty revange on Chanwoo.
This isn't good or safe representation of BDSM.
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Your argument about Chanwoo leaving their S&M relationship is weak. there is a reason why the author chose to show why Chanwoo stays with his bf even if they are abusive.
GIRLLL MD knows Chanwoo is a sub that does not know how to safeword. As a Dom he should check if his Sub is safe or not (be it mentally of physically). as a sub who's had abusive exes, MD should take this into consideration no? Maybeeee Chanwoo does not know that he is being abused? maybeee
cause no hun, MD's feelings were hurt and he should "WHIP" and teach Chanwoo his "lesson".
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Just a big correction here. I have NEVER said that MD was right or that I agree with what he is doing or much less that Chanwoo "deserves" to be whipped and taught a "lesson". I said that if he is THAT uncomfortable, he can leave since he's given the option to, MD is free to stipulate any condition he wants to in order to keep a sub as the sub is free to abide by the condition or not and that I don't understand the fuss about a seme being petty/cruel/abusive to the uke when we are tired of seeing it in yaoi. It's just a work of fiction and not depiction of real life. Expecting "realism" from it is foolish.
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He can but if he does he will loose MD and MD probably has a very special part in his life and that is another reason why I think that's why he rejected MD because all his relationships ended in failure he also believes if he does have a relationship with MD it would also end like that and he would loose one of the best things in his life. MD probably has some sort of understanding towards this and Knows this and he is abusing the fact Chanwoo doesn't want to loose him(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
I mean this is the most reasonable option, from Chanwoo's personality as we saw in the choking seen he is kinda of a person pleaser he wants to do what ever the person he is in a relationship with wants even at the cost of his own self. As I said he most likely wants to leave but can't because of the fear of loosing MD someone very important to him. ( ̄へ ̄)
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Yes it’s a work of fiction, but works of fiction portraying something in a bad light is a problem. This comic is showing bdsm doms as childish abusers who take out their anger on their traumatized subs, when that is not at all what it is. Shit like this is harmful to the bdsm community and needs to be called out for being incorrect.
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I guess people can't really understand a person whose had failed relationships and were victims of abuse stay with people who abuse them. because they maybe? they believe it was normal? maybe because they believe that it was sort of normal?
stop ad hominem things, attacking that this is just a work of fiction when you started throwing arguments.
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*characters. NOT PEOPLE. FICTION. COMICS... Learn the difference. This is simple a trope the author is using to stir drama between two characters we KNOW will end up together. A trope that's been used a thousand times over and we are still here, eating it all up with every new title. It's your choice to make it personal. I prefer to see it as it is knowing that it has nothing to do with real life and should not be used to learn/understand anything.
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Girl... you're reading and expecting too much from a little comic lmao. Learn the difference between a fictional character and an actual person. The author chose to use a trope that's been used countless times before to stir drama between two characters that WE KNOW will end up together. It's not a lesson on BDSM, empathy or a love guide. Just a hook to develop the plot with some tension.
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Everyone pls calm downdjksks let’s not stick with one side of a character, this is not a discussion to see who’s right from wrong or what’s real or what’s not. We’re all exposing our thoughts and standing up for what we think is right but please don’t lose control of yourself and start bashing others
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if MD was really important to him as you say and I roll with it, why did he have to get so low and make him meet the guy he was going to have sex and date? why hurt him like this knowing he has feelings for him??? why did he do that?! just cause some stranger guy wanted to meet MD despite MD ask him not to tell anyone about him?
people that ignore this part in Chan seemed to love to picture MD has some evil guy that use Chan, while forgetting Chanwoo is an asshole too that go too far with this crap!
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You are completely right on the case Chanwoo we very insensitive, but at the same time I think Chanwoo is not aware of the importance of MD in his life there is also the case of him doing whatever it takes to please his partners that's why he only breaks up with them if they initiate it. It is something he had liked learnt to do. So I think that's why he refuses to leave. (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
Chan was very insensitive every he called MD over I agree but it doesn't excuse MD's actions to humiliate him knowing he will go along with it just to stay with MD we also know that MD has not interest in that other dude but is using him as like a way to get back at him. I think it's a bit to much to use humiliation to get back at Chan. They are both in the wrong but one of them is a bit denser than the other. ( ̄へ ̄)
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First of all, Chanwoo has every right to reject MD’s confession. Second of all, he was manipulated by the other guy (forgot his name alreadyjsksk) and called MD to ask for permission in order to date the guy (and him being manipulated is not on MD, I think everyone knows this...) If you ask me he was considering MD’s feelings of concern because MD didn’t like to see him being mistreated by his lovers. Third of all, MD has every right to fall in love with Chanwoo and get hurt by being used as a stool for Chanwoo to get closer to the other guy. Fourth of all, it doesn’t justify MD’s actions for taking control of the situation and fulfill his purpose just because his feelings were hurt. Fifth of all, what are fighting for? Please don’t carelessly ramble your thoughts out and bash the characters before seeing the bigger picture. I’m neither agreeing or disagreeing with you. If you think what Chanwoo has done is lower than MD taking advantage of the s/m play, even going as far to push Chanwoo to make out with someone who had just manipulated him, then idk what to say. You can dislike a particular character but bashing on one to justify another is not it
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it doesn't justify Chanwoo either-even if the guy asked him, he still been an asshole after MD just told him his feelings. so no, Chan is also at fault in this and he could say no and leave. and no MD didn't push him to anything, he give him the choice - stay or leave very clearly. Chan choose to stay! if you can't deal with it, it is your problem, but it still what he choose to do in this plot.
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Idk if you’re purposely being a troll but that’s not the point. Initially when I was writing my previous reply, I had wanted to add in a sentence along the lines of saying that MD being rejected doesn’t really justify Chanwoo being manipulated, but after reading it over I erased it because both matters don’t really connect since they’re different. I understand where you’re coming from, becus yes it’s also Chanwoo’s fault for keeping face and going along with MD, not saying the safe word when he can, leaving when he can, using his legs when he can, but ofc the author’s going to use the s&m play as a plot device to deepen the story. You’re right. Chanwoo did choose to stay. But what you’re wrong about is “MD didn’t push him to anything”. He clearly knew when he got there that Chanwoo was manipulated and wanted to date the guy. What he doesn’t know is that Chanwoo wanted to ask for permission to date the guy. Anyways, MD gave him 2 choices and prompts Chanwoo to choose to stay to fight for the sub position under him while being in an uncomfortable situation (social vs business life). Idk what MD’s purpose is, I only briefly said that he wanted to take advantage of the situation and fulfill his purpose but I didn’t specify what purpose. Regarding your concern, I can deal with this so I don’t have a problem with understanding the execution of the story at all thank you very much, in fact I would love to see more of their relationship and see it develop outside of bdsm itself. On the other hand, if you can’t deal with others opinions then it is your own problem. Anyhow, remember to keep an open mind ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
The only thing I wish was different is that the downfall of the mother was too quickly addressed so we didn't get to see her reaction which made it slightly less satisfying. I still enjoyed it a lot though, so thank you for translating and uploading!
Yeah i agree!