Hal's Topics (201)

We do be wanting Stockholm syndrome tho

Same. But he thought he could have both without any consequences, which pisses me off. He had someone who cared about him but he only wanted to keep it professional and then get mad when it doesn’t go his way

umm, both agreed to have outside relationships? what do you mean about “consequence” as if it was his fault for having a choice in a relationship? I don’t think MD cares about Chanwoo with his recent play with him, this is out of the line. would you even like to makeout with someone who lied onto you?

Exactly Chanwoo just got humiliated even more

I feel like y’all are forgetting MD is a dom. They are literally sadists. This is totally within character for him. I think Chanwoo just took him being extra nice to him for granted. Chanwoo can always just leave, no one’s forcing him

yeah, but maybe he don’t wanna lose something ion know

wait but BDSM has consent in shit, and if you go back to chap 37 sum feel like off MD was mad Chanwoo keeps leaving so he was angry and took it out on Chanwoo but at the end Chanwoo likes it

“MD is a dom” MD is clearly using his position as a DOM to manipulate Chanwoo, what’s your excuse?
“Chanwoo can always leave” that’s the problem, Chanwoo can’t and understand his limit, he can’t even safeword when he was being strangled by MD. If a person who has issues with safeword and staying in abusive relationships, MD should know better than putting him in this test and slapping him.
if your kind of BDSM is non consent and humiliation with no pleasure, I won’t explain anymore

ong I fucking love You I don’t need to say it’d cause u said it before me

Is Being Dom really an excuse tho?

I knowwww! hahaha! I kinda know what people will gonna say, it is always why can’t Chanwoo leave the MD... so typical lol

Sorry but I just don’t see it the same way. Chanwoo and MD have had a professional relationship for awhile. He is capable of safewording. Yes, Chanwoo has been in abusive relationships but MD is not abusive and hasn’t displayed signs of that. Pulling on a collar for a split second is not being strangled so idk where that came from. That slap is part of their agreement (which Chanwoo decided to keep going rather than pursue a relationship). MD isn’t doing anything he doesn’t have consent to do, stop reaching. Chanwoo is an adult who has had tons of experience with BDSM. HE CAN LEAVE. Part of BDSM is literally humiliation and if you can’t understand that then I can’t explain. Why else would people prostrate themselves before others. Let’s not project our feelings onto the situation just because we don’t like it.

The line in BDSM, other than the agreed upon physical parameter is mental abuse. That’s not happening here. Don’t bring up Chanwoo’s past relationships because if those have nothing to don with this. MD isn’t abusing him and Chanwoo wanted this relationship to begin with. You don’t like him being slapped around or “humiliated” (which I say very loosely)—that’s fair, but again, these are literally his kinks. He chose them. If he didn’t want it, he would leave

He nearly strangled him to death in Ch 87 I don't know what are u even reading. And because he was ANRGY after rejection.
BDSM where dom is mixing his feelings and grudge with a play? Where he is taking his anger out on the sub because he had audacity to reject him? Where he makes sub participate in the play and things he is uncomfortable with under disguise of BDSM scene? And he knows sub won't refuse because of conditions he put on him and they are impacting his choices. What's more it was shown that Chanwoo has problems with limits, he didn't say anything while being strangled to death and MD is fully taking advantage of that. He isn't interested in the other sub in the slightest, he is just getting petty revange on Chanwoo.
This isn't good or safe representation of BDSM.
And Ch 37. Tbh I completely forgot about that but he crossed boundaries with Chanwoo and did unacceptable things from the very begining.

let’s wait and see if he turns abusive

Are you serious ? lmaoo Chanwoo never agreed on kissing the dude tho

in my opinion I feel like you can’t speak for an abused victim if you weren’t one because you don’t know the feeling imagine u behind in Chanwoo shoes

And this is where we shouldn’t make assumptions about strangers. I’m not about to go into my whole life story trying to convince you that I can totally understand what’s it’s like being a victim. I would have loved an out. I’ll just leave it at we don’t agree.

sorry if I sounded rude, but I was tryna get my opinion out my bad

You’re good. We both just have strong opinions lol. We were probably just philosophers in another life, that’s why

chanwoo isn’t a stranger to us? There is a reasonhy author showed us the strangling scene and the aftermath of him getting beaten????

That comment was referring to myself when I said “shouldn’t make assumptions about strangers” (maybe you didn’t read the couple before it).

let us just keep in touch with the work

Being a dom doesn't give you the right to go against someones consent. A real dom would see Chanwoo is uncomfortable and not ok and would give him a threat like ultimatum or try to get him to safeword thats just being a asshole going against consent. Also all healthy BDSM play should be negotiated first so all of this was messed up (yes I know it's fiction). This has fully drifted from realistic BDSM now, not that it was ever great to start with. Also yes I participate in BDSM and the community in real life.

BDSM and humiliation are NOT the same thing sorry. Thats toxic af.

Tbh I got a whole thread right above going into this. It may help as to what I mean

I don’t understand what you mean

That is why MD is being unprofessional. author’s representation of the strangling and that awful slap is making my stomach turn.

What I meant is lets keep our personal matters to ourselves... unless it relates to our topic?

1) that is literally what I said in that comment (i.e. that I wasn’t going to go into all that)
2) that comment wasn’t directed at you but someone else who brought it up so yeah...there’s that

then let’s leave it that way, This will be my last comment, As this is going in circles. i do really hope you check it out.
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/5931412/