I wish we got to see her character development. I don't really like how she suddenly just became 19. I get it was to stop the plot from dragging but still. I really wish we got to see the development from her if there is any. Right now she doesn't seem to be that different?
Honestly tho I actually like her personality. It felt new and I’m getting tired from those typical fl personality. Atleast to me it felt closer to fl cuz of the love hate I (we) feel for her
I personally really hate her personality.
I believe the emperor is in the right. He's trying his best to make sure she's okay and alive. We all have things in life we hate doing. She shouldn't be able to just say no to every thing she dislikes. I see everyone saying they love the FL but in my opinion she's not my favorite. I can see how people relate to her but she literally has a golden spoon. So far nobody has demanded anything from her other than basic things to survive. The emperor is really just trying to keep her alive and active so she doesn't die. If anything he's helping her. It may look like he's forcing her but god knows she wouldn't do anything on her own if it wasn't for him. All she has to do is eat, sleep, bathe, get some exercise and repeat. I understand being unmotivated to do these thinge but she literally can be waited on hand and foot. She genuinely has the easy life compared to before.
Have you ever heard of depression?
The reason she is this way is bc she was treated as royalty. In her past life, she was hard working and didn’t enjoy her job. Now in this new world, she can relax as much as she likes. But the downside to that is loss in motivation. I agree that the emperor is only trying to help, but to endlessly push her to her limit every day is tiring, and not helpful at all. What she needs is rest, motivation, and patience. People are mad bc she is lazy and depressed, but she has every right be. She has no one, no friends, family, nothing. She's in an unknown world where she must relearn EVERYTHING from scratch.
Meant to dislike
Dont worry i did it for u
what is the like to dislike ratio like?
16:9 for dislike
That ain't looking good for the OP
But it doesn't mean nothing should be done. Yes depression is hard to overcome but it shouldn't be neglected either because what would be the difference if you just let a depressed person be depressed all by herself. Isn't that more cruel and lonely?
In my opinion, the emperor has given her enough rest, motivation and patience. If he keeps tolerating her doings then what would be the point? Nothing would change. Let's be thankful enough that the emperor cares for the Fl instead of neglecting her or worse be cruel to her.
No one is saying that this means that nothing should be done. Instead, we should be empathetic and understanding to the struggle she goes through (and no this does not mean letting her lie down and die. )
The point is that saying that someone has everything won't fix that. Sure, she may have a "golden spoon" like the OP of this post mentioned but that isn't an automatic depression cure. Unless you experience it, it is hard to understand but it's nothing like just feeling unmotivated or sad. This is not just the OP having to do things she hates to do. The point of me asking the OP if they have ever heard of depression is that their answer seems like it's trying to be kind, however, it is very apparent that the OP of this post lacks knowledge about depression and about what it is like to be depressed. The things that Mai mentioned e.g. "golden spoon", she "has everything", "unmotivated" is quite patronizing. This is like saying that she has nothing to be depressed about and here is the thing, depression doesn't need a reason to be there. It can just be there, sure there might be a biological explanation behind it, however, you don't need to have some kind of life struggle to be depressed. Depression can hit you out of nowhere, lack a wall of bricks. It can ruin a person's life.
High functioning depression is also a thing, and sure, someone who is high functioning can get up and complete those tasks that need to be done, but guess what? They will still be depressed. The issue of depression isn't just simply someone lacking motivation. It's honestly very difficult to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it. I could describe it as endless despair, that is there, and it remains there, it doesn't just go away. You don't enjoy anything/you enjoy next to nothing. Your body feels tired, despite how much sleep you get. Getting out of bed is you forcing, dragging your body, fighting against the tiredness you feel, against the great sense of dread and sadness. If you're lucky enough to be high functioning, you can drag your body out of bed, you can and regardless of whatever you do, the sense of dread never gets away. It's heavy and you feel it deep inside you. You try to fight against it, but there are no quick fixes. Life is suffering, even the things you used to love feel like suffering, it's an endless nightmare and more likely than not, you're probably thinking of ending your life because at that moment (which typically lasts months of years), life feels like suffering and pain. You try to do stuff to make it better but depression isn't about reason or logic, it often remains there. Being well of financially won't fix it, because depression is not about poverty or your situation (although it can affect that a lot), depression is a condition that can affect anyone regardless of wealth. Psychology is still a developing field but we have medication and therapies that can help but the symptoms won't be fixed instantly/within a quick amount of time. Some people can get better after only 6 months of treatment, others have to continue the medications/therapies for a long amount of time/indefinitely. Sometimes you can get better without any proper treatment, and this will most likely be what happens to the MC of this story, but that is neither a quick or easy process. The MC is doing her best to corporate, what she is struggling with is a living nightmare but she is putting in the effort and I think that we should be proud of her for that, instead of acting like she just lacks motivation/is lazy.
Frankly, It's hard for me to even tell if I explained it well enough for you to understand. Before I started suffering from it I could have never imagined how bad it was going to be. And in the past, I would have agreed with quite a lot of things Mai said but now that I know what it's like, I can promise you that Mais interpretation of this is far from the truth and I'm certain that anyone and everyone who has struggled with it would love for it to be something as simple as "lacking motivation."
This thing that I wrote, it's long, it's well explained (at least I hope that it is) and it's a task that has been completed. And while I did do a thing, I still am in a state of existence where everything is suffering, life is miserable, and doing anything feels like dragging a lifeless doll around. I would love to just lie down and never do anything at all, I would prefer not to exist but now I got to get myself up, go to the store, buy some things, come back home and hope that I will be able to force myself to do other productive stuff but frankly I have no clue what I'm going to be able to do because it's only 5pm and the amount of energy my body has is almost non-existent. Me completing tasks doesn't fix it. Me having a house to live in and food doesn't fix it. I wish that it could be as easy as just choosing not to be depressed, that would actually benefit me a lot, but that isn't the case.
You said "In my opinion, the emperor has given her enough rest, motivation and patience. If he keeps tolerating her doings then what would be the point? Nothing would change" to neprune. And the thing about this is that, is that yes, this is what it's like. You can rest, you will still feel tired and lack energy. You can get up and do stuff, and you will still be struggling with the same stuff. Nothing changes.
Of course, the situation isn't completely hopeless (therapy+medication exist) but the emperor forcing the MC to do stuff will not magically instantly fix the OP's depression. Op is stuck in another world where they most likely do not have proper treatments. The chance is there but with no way to address the cause of the issue, if the MC was a real person, they would most likely just be a depressed person who manages to do stuff. There is hope, but the chance is slim, but the possibility is still there. Of course, this is a fictional story so things will fix themselves.
TLDR: depression = hard
no quick solution
not just lacking motivation
it can ruin your life
doing stuff won't fix it
high functioning depression is a thing
slim chance of getting better
life is suffering
I agreed that the emperor is trying to help, but like I said, everyone is different. However long it takes for the FL to become motivated is up to her, not the emperor. If the emperor did neglect her, the church would get more followers than the emperor. So he really doesn't have a choice lol but turns out he has feelings for her, so ofc he’d be willing to wait till she’s willing to learn/work.
That's a long ass reply. But I get what you mean because I'm clinically depressed so
Also the ML apologized in the latest update anyways so i guess he realized what he's doing? I hope so
The ppl here aren't hating on the ML, I think that we are all cool with the story and how it's going.
From what I read, I think that ppl are just annoyed at ppl who referred to the MC as lazy, etc.
Lol i think u see urself in fl. Ml "forcing her to do stuff" was right because it was GOOD for her. Shes gonna die if shes just gonna sleep all day. Gosh! Bruh logic her body would start failing if shed just laze all around. WE CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT THE FL IS NOT HEALING BY HERSELF. If the emperor wouldnt force her to do things, she wouldnt even heal nor realize that there is more to herself than she knows. I read a comment here that the fl is going to realize the next chapters and she wouldnt be able to realize if the emperor just left her rotting in her room. Anyways this is not for the fl but for u, im going to be blunt cuz if no ones gonna say this to u then ud probably never realize it. Stop making your "depression" as an excuse to heal or change yourself.
Lol i think u see urself in fl. Ml "forcing her to do stuff" was right because it was GOOD for her. Shes gonna die if shes just gonna sleep all day. Gosh! Bruh logic her body would start failing if shed just laze all around. WE CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT THE FL IS NOT HEALING BY HERSELF. If the emperor wouldnt force her to do things, she wouldnt even heal nor realize that there is more to herself than she knows. I read a comment here that the fl is going to realize the next chapters and she wouldnt be able to realize if the emperor just left her rotting in her room. Anyways this is not for the fl but for u, im going to be blunt cuz if no ones gonna say this to u then ud probably never realize it. Stop making your "depression" as an excuse to *not heal or change yourself.
Awkward, you're literally arguing a strawman. I already stated that I don't think that nothing should be done and that I don't think that we should just let her lie down and die. That was literally the first thing I said.
Evidence: "No one is saying that this means that nothing should be done. Instead, we should be empathetic and understanding to the struggle she goes through (and no this does not mean letting her lie down and die. )"
I can see 3 explanations behind why you didn't realize this:
1)You didn't read anything I said
2)You intentionally misrepresented my proposition
3)You read what I wrote but you didn't use your brain or you have horrible cognitive thinking skills.
Now that this part is out of the way, I shall respond to the advice you gave me.
Reasons why I/anyone else wouldn't take your advice:
-You have been very rude
-You shouted at me (e.g. WE CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT THE FL IS NOT HEALING BY HERSELF)
-You lack knowledge on me and my lifestyle and my life. There is no way for you to give effective advice, that applies to a specific person if you do not know them
-No one here has asked for your advice.
-Your advice doesn't seem to be coming from a loving place, instead, it seems as though it's coming from a place of arrogance.
-It's patronizing.
-No paragraphs, horrible spelling (e.g. "then ud probably")
After reading what you wrote, most people would respond by calling you a "rude arrogant asshole" and while I won't do that, I do think that you presented yourself like that. Unlike you, I won't claim to know you or your life because I literally don't know you, and it would be foolish for me to do.
If you still believe yourself to be in a position where you can give me advice please:
-explain how I live my life
-tell me your qualifications and what great things you have achieved
-explain why you choose to be so rude towards me.
-explain how I am making excuses to change/heal myself.
-explain the specific lifestyle changes you believe that I should make.
Rude. Healing/Changing is easier said than done.
Its my fault here. I guess i replied the wrong comment. But since im already here then let us say i did reply your comment. First, i didnt yell at you. the letters were capitalized to emphasize the words i wanted to be highlighted. Second, i can give advice whether or not you asked for it. Third, I didn't claim to know who you are. If you really are offended then that must mean that my advice got you. Bruh I dont need to know who you are because you know your self well. Whether you claim yourself in this comment that i got you wrong, we wouldn't know. After all, we dont know anyone here. Sakali lang natamaan ka, youll realize what i said was right all along. Lastly, i thank you for your respond hehe
Who else/which comment did you intend to reply to and how did you write so much by accident? It seems like you're just making up an excuse because you realized that you were at "fault." And yes, you were. But your rude arrogant attitude is still here (evidence: your whole reply :/ ) and honestly, you literally just doubled down on what you said before. A nice, normal person would apologize but you decided to continue being a jerk.
1)Using capslock is considered to be shouting over the internet. You also didn't need to highlight anything because I was going to read whatever you wrote, whenever it is or isn't empathized, doesn't matter. Most people tend not to use capslock to empathize things because it's considered to be extremely rude. I used to use it when I was a lot younger, however, I don't because I know that I will just embrace myself and make myself seem childish if I did that. Plus I'm pretty sure that you decided not to use it in this reply because you know that it's rude.
2)You can give advice even if people don't ask, you could also eat your own shit.
3)Yes you did, you tried to giving me advice and assumed that you knew enough about me to give you advice. You're still doing that.
Why did you say something to me in a different language? Purposely speaking to someone in a different language so they won't understand what you said to them/about them is also considered to be very rude so thank you for providing me with more evidence.
People tend not to like when people are rude towards them regardless of whenever that is or isn't true. But I wouldn't say that I feel offended, I simply have the time and I like playing with people that aren't that smart. I find it fun, especially if they have nothing valuable to say. My favorite moment is when they realize how stupid/rude they are, sometimes they decide to continue being rude because they think that by behaving in that way, they can still feel like they are "right" or like they got some kind of a 'gotcha' but in reality, they don't, and they simply embarrass themselves even more. I don't like it and I find it a bit annoying when people are rude towards me for no reason (it's not like I was mean or rude towards them before, or like I did anything to make their lives worse) so seeing them make themselves look like a joke is like retribution.
Sure, I find your insults to be rude but that doesn't make them true. You could have called me a whore, I know that this isn't a factual statement, however, I would still see you as a rude horrible person. And no I won't agree with the claims you made about me. I will just end up feeling sorry for you because you're so arrogant and rude and I have to live on the same planet as you. I can't see a person who behaved in such a way getting anywhere. I really hope that you grow up because people don't like rude people.
Sometimes, I have negative conversations with other people. However, in most cases, the one who was in the wrong realizes that and does something to make things better. It's ok to be wrong or to say something mean from time to time. However, it is critical that we reflect on that and make appropriate changes. Otherwise, we will not change from who we used to be, you seem to have realized that you were/are in the wrong but instead of taking appropriate actions to resolve that conflict, you continue acting in the same way. You decided not to change or to make any improvements. Thus in a way, I have to return the advice you gave to me, because based on the way you speak to others, it seems that you need to make some major changes to how you behave/think.
And let's be honest, you only replied in a less rude way to be because I owned you so hard that by continuing to be so rude towards me, you would have dug your grave harder. It wouldn't even matter if you tried to reply to a different comment I made because it's only logical to read all the comments that were made before replying, and if you didn't read that comment then you simply chose to be ignorant. Either way, this situation still doesn't look pretty for you. Nevertheless, either way, you still chose to be a rude person. Although, in a way you do seem like the type of person who will always justify anything they do/say because they can't accept that they were wrong so sadly, you will probably never change.
And my reply to you saying that I will realize that you were right is simply that you're wrong. No offense, but the chances are that my life will be a lot better than yours. You can't even write in paragraphs. your spelling is horrible and you don't seem like a logical person. You're lacking basic skills, you don't seem like a nice person at all and you're arrogant. That's a recipe for a disaster.
Go on, make another rude arrogant argument and just prove my point further. Usually, I have a lot more faith in people but even after improving your presentation a little bit, the core remains the same. Just a mean rude bully. Thankful
You could say that I'm being patronizing to you, and I would agree with that statement. However, how could I not be when you behave like that? When I see foolish people, that are nice, I will be nice to them, but a rude foolish person doesn't deserve that. I personally always do my best to treat people how they treat me. I did treat you nicely in my first reply to you, but you choose to continue being a rude person, therefore, do not expect anymore niceness from me (unless you stop being rude,)
tbh, I don't even know what changes they want me to make. Like do they want me to do something specific? Or are they just making a general suggestion to be rude? To me it seems like the latter is true.
I'll give my review on this. It's WOW. The plot is easy enough to understand if you're able to remember the characters names and the position that they play. Thankfully each character is extremely unique so it's rather easy to remember everyones roles and such. The art is so beautiful. This may be my favorite art style of all time. It's so much put into it. The characters truly look like their personalities. Everyone is so beautiful. The only thing that is a downside would be the mothers. They look wayyy too young but that's common so it's okay. The characters are so greatly made and it's just so awesome. The plot is even more extraordinary. I love the whole idea of it. But I really wish they'd gjve more detail on the novel. Like perhaps it mentioned who died in the end, who was the real villain ( Though we know it's her oldest brother?) And who Fl ends up with. That would've been nice to get inside information about the novel. Other then that it's so amazing. The FL is very vicious though. She's really terrifying. I'm glad she's not all goody goody like in most stories where the FL acts badass when in reality she's just a huge softie. Roxana is badass all time around and it's admirable. The only thing I feel like people would dislike is how violent she is. But that's just how she grew up I guess? Anyhow I absolutely love it. I rate it a 9/10. Every character is so amazing.
I'm wondering how so many people hate this. I actually love this story so much. The female lead is so realistic. She's not your average super cunning female lead and she's realistic. Y'all act like in this sort of situation you'd be so much better. She's certainly trying and I appreciate it. I love the unwavering trust in the story and the whole idea of it.
Oh my jesus- Y'all are STILL upset over the art style? It's literally been like 3 months and y'all are still talking about it. I don't even remember what the old one looked like and I genuinely don't care. But honestly y'all should really get over it. I see so many comments about people complaining over how different it looks when honestly it doesn't matter that much. It's understandable if it had just recently changed but now people are complaining about it just to complain. At least it doesn't suck. Anyhow I wanna just say my opinion on the actual story now. So, this isn't horrible but I don't love it either. I'm not hooked by the story. It's interesting but also gets super random in my opinion. The FL really acts like a dog and she's all about kindness and love and she hesitates wayyy too much. She'll never survive as the ML's fiance unless she meets some serious development about her never ending "I must be nice and allow everybody to get theit way!" Type of deal because it's really not it. And the ML is honestly a brat. All of the characters have pretty unattractive personalities in my opinion. The story is still ongoing and yet FL and ML haven't even officially started dating yet. It's just fluffy light barely romance right now. The story isn't horrible but in my opinion it's not interesting as much, it's sorta all over right now and the drama is so weird.
I genuinely pity Beatrice. ( The current one. ) I understand why Raeliana shot Beatrice but damn. I feel like Raeliana could've at least gave Beatrice some form of reassurance. She literally went as far to say that she can't even talk to her family ever again. That was so pitiful. I understand Beatrice so much. I wish we would've received her POV. She knew that she was going to die and then someone offers her some salvation. Of course she'd take it. The black Magician is the real villain here. They really threw thoughts ibto her head that this was the only way to live. I don't think Beatrices actions were the best but they are completely understandable. She knew that she was going to die as an extra and she just wanted to be the main character of her own life. Unfortunately she couldn't choose the same path that Raeliana did. Even up till the very end she was hesitant to kill her bestfriend. I love Raeliana but it would've been so more satisfying for Raeliana to just possibly give Beatrice some encouragement for her next life. I bet Raeliana could've sympathized with her.
no... she's the type who would do it again, and if given another chance she would do the same, sometimes... there are just those types of people
She's the type to do it again? I don't think so. I really don't think Beatrice is that bad of a person as everyone plays her out to be. I think she's just seriously mislead.
You have a point but when you think about it, the urgency actually reflets real life situations. If you are in a situation where you are endangered you wouldn’t waste every second you have left, that applies to Raeliana. And i’m sure it would be hard for Raeliana to sympathize with Beatrice given that she was the one who put her in situation in the first place and then she suddenly tries to kill her. Maybe on later chapters internally but in that situation of course not.
At least we readers saw the side of beatrice, are able to sympathize with her, and not just judge her thoughtlessly.
It's still disappointing though. Raeliana could've at least given a minute to give Beatrice reassurance for her next life. Also, Raeliana definitely should've been able to sympathize with Beatrice. She was also put into that position for a short amount of time. I really feel like she'd understand how Beatrice felt. But she didn't even bat an eyelash and just killed her. That was really sad.
Well- this is certainly something. O.o When I first saw it, I thought it would be some medium lewd here and there. Like the Dutchess having big tatas and the ML being super suggestive but GAWD DAUMMMMM.
This was actually so short but I actually liked it. It wasn't all that confusing. I found this a really nice short story to read. :D
I immediately dropped this by the second chapter. This really sucks in my opinion. The art honestly isn't that good to begin with. It's very lazy. And the female leads personality is horrible. She acts like a roach and cusses anytime she can. Like- the hell? I found that so obnoxious. For someone who's gonna die, she's so shitty towards the male lead and she isn't even slightly scared of him. She's just so dumb.
Hey guys. So can you people PLEASE stop saying how much you don't ship this and how weird you find it. I beg you. It's so obnoxious to try and read the comments then come across people saying "Ew I don't ship this! They're like mother and son! This is so gross!" I completely understand your opinion and that's valid but every single time a chapter comes out you don't have to make comments about how much you don't ship this pairing. It's 10000% clear that they end up together and Tia is the ML. If you don't like it or find it disturbing then simply stop reading it. 90% of the plot is related to their relationship. You're literally reading something about their relationship. If you don't like it then just leave and stop making it unenjoyable for people who genuinely like it. The story just gets unenjoyable when people do this sort of thing. Your opinion is valid and all but please stop saying over and over again and making comments and replying to people about how gross you find it. Thanks. <3
Ikrrr I mean if you don't like it, then why are u reading it, this is one of the cutest manhwa for me so please stop with the hate comments
If they saying this is gross why theirs porn called family stroke
they can have an opinion lmao??? she raised him and if u ship shit like that u're disgusting
You're completely right. It's your opinion. Though for the fact it's literally in the description of the story, clearly showing throughout the whole story, even in the cover, it shows they get together?? There's no issue with spreading your opinion but when you're just sitting there each chapter bashing people for whatever they like then simply go. You're not obligated to sit here and read it. You're not obligated to bash people. Why is it so hard to just not read it?? The story isn't harmful. It's literally just words and pictures on a screen for a fictional book.
And for your information, she really didn't raise him. It was all mostly the butler. She did some things here and there but it's clear that she was never a proper mother figure for him. They're not blood related either so I don't see the issue?