Lavender February 22, 2024 1:08 am

Honestly, the funniest thing about all this drama is there is NO future in this relationship. If Dan gets with Jaekjung, then what? No seriously, then what?

I'm going to crunch some numbers real quick:
Jaekyung is 26 yrs old.
If he continues to have a good career he will retire around mid to late 30s (avg age for boxers is 35 because after that they physically break down).
If he blows out his shoulder it will be way before that.
So that means at most Dan is expecting 10-15 years more of this crazy-ass, violent behaviour (as well as messed up power dynamics).

But I'm not done. CTE kicks in the early 40s if you are lucky, early to mid-30s if you aren't lucky and could even present prior. This means even AFTER this guy retires he's still going to be beating the crap out of Dan and most likely going to become less coherent and more violent (essentially he's going to become a violent dementia patient). Finally, CTE takes years off of your life expectancy so Jaekjung will probs die around 60-65 yrs of age (if he doesn't succumb to suicidal thoughts (symptom of CTE) or if someone else doesn't take him out first)

So like why are we staying? There's nothing to look forward to. And they are in Korea so it's not like he can marry him for his money. It's funny in the way that Dan is going through all of these trials and tribulations for literally nothing. Like girl, it's a lose-lose situation

    GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚ February 21, 2024 8:28 am

    Dang not the intellectual play by play! But yea, I get what you’re saying. It’s kinda hard to imagine them together at this point in the story, but even in the end, I still can’t see them together without getting the uncanny valley shivers.

    GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚ February 21, 2024 8:29 am
    Dang not the intellectual play by play! But yea, I get what you’re saying. It’s kinda hard to imagine them together at this point in the story, but even in the end, I still can’t see them together without... GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚

    Maybe it’s not the type of story where the author wants them to be a thing in the end, or maybe kill one of them when they just start being happy, idk and idc, fr.

    Sumer February 21, 2024 1:58 pm

    What's CTE btw? And I assume. Like, assume. Jk's violent behaviour will stop when...if. he gets together with Dan.
    Damn, even typing this I can't believe how unlikely and unreal it sounds.

    Elaine February 21, 2024 2:59 pm

    Lol if you've read BJ Alex you'd know. It's the same author and the stories are somewhat similar. They follow the same formula: seme sucks at the start everything's bad nothing is going well then sudden change of heart and they understand eachother then seme is the sweetest man to even exist.

    Sumer February 21, 2024 3:31 pm
    Lol if you've read BJ Alex you'd know. It's the same author and the stories are somewhat similar. They follow the same formula: seme sucks at the start everything's bad nothing is going well then sudden change ... Elaine

    Bro atleast Alex was somewhat decent. He knew how to act normal...plus that story's development was faster. This is just trudging along somewhat

    GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚ February 21, 2024 4:06 pm
    Lol if you've read BJ Alex you'd know. It's the same author and the stories are somewhat similar. They follow the same formula: seme sucks at the start everything's bad nothing is going well then sudden change ... Elaine

    I can’t help but feel this is different this time tho.

    vincent3003 February 21, 2024 4:59 pm
    What's CTE btw? And I assume. Like, assume. Jk's violent behaviour will stop when...if. he gets together with Dan.Damn, even typing this I can't believe how unlikely and unreal it sounds. Sumer

    Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. It’s essentially brain damage from high contact sports like boxing and football. Netflix has a documentary about Aaron Hernandez, an infamous NFL player who had CTE and eventually killed his peer and himself later on. I cannot think of an ending where Jaekyung does not develop CTE and end up hurting Dan bc ain’t no way

    Sumer February 21, 2024 6:06 pm
    Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. It’s essentially brain damage from high contact sports like boxing and football. Netflix has a documentary about Aaron Hernandez, an infamous NFL player who had CTE and event... vincent3003

    H-holy- shit... You're factually correct. But this is fiction in the end so it's genuinely unpredictable

    Mikaelà February 21, 2024 8:17 pm

    Looking at Jaekyung's attitude towards injuries, he'll definitely retire early like that. I seriously can't understand how people are expecting for this relationship to work out. This had potential to be a psychological Manwha and show the consequences of CTE, instead of a ''romance''. What a bummer.

    Elaine February 21, 2024 8:44 pm
    I can’t help but feel this is different this time tho. GucciVelvet˚ʚ♡ɞ˚

    I can't help but feel it'll be the same it's very much like every other yaoi it's only enjoyable cause the author knows how to blue ball us into reading the next chap

    Lavender February 22, 2024 12:58 am
    Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. It’s essentially brain damage from high contact sports like boxing and football. Netflix has a documentary about Aaron Hernandez, an infamous NFL player who had CTE and event... vincent3003

    FR. CTE is so scary. I've taken several classes on it and written a few papers about it and shit is crazy. The best-case scenario I've seen was with this guy who worked at my university as a sports coordinator (he was briefly an enforcer in the NHL). AND HE LITERALLY CAN'T COUNT ANYMORE. He lost the ability to count. Moreover, his baby hit him in the head and because he was so messed up, it knocked him out and severely concussed him. As a result of this incident, his doctor warned him that if it happened again, he could die. The only way this is going to end 'happily' is if Jaekyung turns into a vegetable and Dan gets it take care of him for the rest of his short-lived life

    Lavender February 22, 2024 1:03 am
    Lol if you've read BJ Alex you'd know. It's the same author and the stories are somewhat similar. They follow the same formula: seme sucks at the start everything's bad nothing is going well then sudden change ... Elaine

    I feel like Alex didn't actively manipulate the uke though. Like yes he was a jackass, but he was straightforward with what he wanted and didn't hold a position of power over the uke. Meanwhile, Jaekjung may be open about being a d*ck but he holds both financial and positional powers over Dan and actively exploits him because of it.

    Lavender February 22, 2024 1:10 am

    ahhh I edited a typo and I didn't realize that it deletes the replies. I'm sorry to everyone who replied in the comments

    Lavender February 22, 2024 1:16 am
    ahhh I edited a typo and I didn't realize that it deletes the replies. I'm sorry to everyone who replied in the comments Lavender

    Wait it's back, we're good. Idk why but this website always glitches on me

    Elaine February 22, 2024 1:25 pm
    I feel like Alex didn't actively manipulate the uke though. Like yes he was a jackass, but he was straightforward with what he wanted and didn't hold a position of power over the uke. Meanwhile, Jaekjung may be... Lavender

    Yeah but to me it only feels like the author is taking it a step further to make it more interesting. I don't expect it to end any differently. They're gonna be lovey dovey soon. The author hinted it at before, I don't remember exactly what it was but in one of those "Q&A" chapters someone asked when they'll get to be happy and the author said it's gonna take long, therefore implying that it will end the same way .

    toesforhoes February 22, 2024 5:48 pm

    honestly we all know it gonna end like bj alex but i feel like jae is so far gone… like i can’t even imagining him missing dan when he inevitably fires him or dan leaves. the only thing i could see jae missing is the sex…..

Lavender February 18, 2024 12:38 am

Okay, I understand that her family felt uncomfortable/hostile towards her because their souls were switched, but do they feel any shame?

They straight up neglected Camilla and let her be bullied, isolated and made into a joke by society as well as always assumed the worst of her (and then later found out they were completely wrong).

If you realized your perception of her was wrong, and you changed your behaviour toward her as a result, how can you avoid feeling guilty about the way you treated her in the past? How can they act so shamelessly and expect gifts from her without even properly apologizing to her for everything they put her through?

    Hooble February 18, 2024 2:31 am

    Right???? Like I like this reasoning for switching up their feelings but sheesh I need some groveling on their ends
    Like its not like they know about the soul switching even so they have no reason to not be apologizing

    Lavender February 18, 2024 3:20 am
    Right???? Like I like this reasoning for switching up their feelings but sheesh I need some groveling on their ends Like its not like they know about the soul switching even so they have no reason to not be apo... Hooble

    Exactly. Where's my grovelling?

    JayJay (I'm back!) February 18, 2024 11:54 pm

    I would've liked a real apology too... I guess at least she can breathe easy now ever since the duke did a thorough "cleaning" of the household servants conspiring to frame her inside the house (after the theft of her mom's ring came to light), and the stepbro punished those boys harassing her and the Original blondie FL at school, for her, both things sending a message that they're not gonna ignore random people mistreating her, anymore.

    But yeah, it'd have been nice if they'd been more vocal.

Lavender February 17, 2024 6:34 am

So is the old guy his grandfather or his dad's business partner?

    wonders February 21, 2024 7:05 pm

    I believes he's the uncle

Lavender February 15, 2024 7:50 am

When are we going to get Eve-elution? I want grown eve

    Caballero February 15, 2024 8:17 am

    the eevee evolution, if you will

    ilay’s pink tip lickerღ February 15, 2024 4:34 pm

    Sameee I want Zaddy Eve.

    Jennifujoshi private eye February 25, 2024 3:03 pm

    idunno, that face makes me wonder if eve and gozu might fuse together, or the real demon king is actually their son. the latter would be bad since gozu said eve's kid's moms explode :(

    Yuhi_sama March 1, 2024 2:43 am

    This author has only drawn small tops till now so i can doubt we ll have an eveelution T_T

    Lavender March 1, 2024 7:18 am
    This author has only drawn small tops till now so i can doubt we ll have an eveelution T_T Yuhi_sama

    Jennifujoshi private eye March 15, 2024 5:08 am
    This author has only drawn small tops till now so i can doubt we ll have an eveelution T_T Yuhi_sama

    at least theres still beefy bottoms. the author probably thinks its kinky to be feminized by somebody who looks more feminine

    Yuhi_sama March 15, 2024 5:42 am
    at least theres still beefy bottoms. the author probably thinks its kinky to be feminized by somebody who looks more feminine Jennifujoshi private eye

    İ get the author, that's pretty hot

    Jennifujoshi private eye March 15, 2024 7:20 am
    İ get the author, that's pretty hot Yuhi_sama

    yeah ^^ <3

Lavender February 15, 2024 7:15 am

Bro his sister already killed him once and now she's going to kill him again

Lavender February 15, 2024 3:07 am

Hmm, I've been enjoying this story, but some aspects bother me. Hikaru's backstory aligns with the trope of a traumatized child turned vengeful adult due to exploitation. It's clear that his experiences with an older woman as a child shaped his twisted outlook on life, leading him to target successful women in his quest for vengeance. The core reason for Hikaru's penchant for 'stealing talented women's potential' stems from having his innocence taken by a talented/successful woman.

On one hand, I appreciate the attempt to draw parallels between Hikaru and Ai, both victims of predatory adults who coveted their beauty and 'shininess.' Both had to carefully curate an innocent and untainted image to survive, akin to polished gems hiding imperfections. Yet, internally, they grapple with twisted emotions and misplaced blame for the trauma inflicted upon them. This stark contrast between their outward presentation and inner turmoil is where the metaphor of 'lies' arises. This is also why I would argue that the person who knew Ai best was Hikaru as they both shared similar backgrounds and experiences.

While I appreciate the use of the gem metaphor, its application troubles me. It's problematic to suggest that these children were targeted solely based on their attractiveness and that their 'shininess' compelled others to covet them. This notion, coupled with the excuse of 'lookism,' almost absolves perpetrators of their actions (“the power of lookism, turns people into monsters” Why are we acting like this out of one’s control?). I believe focusing on the violence and malice perpetrated by adults, rather than solely on the children's beauty, would have been a more appropriate approach.

I think what the author was trying to imply when comparing Hikaru and Ai with a gem was something similar to that of blood diamonds, where the conflict arises from human greed and exploitation rather than the inherent value of the gems themselves. Both Hikaru and Ai are victims of circumstances beyond their control, stained by the actions of adults who sought to possess them.

Then again it could just be a translation issue, as sometimes things don’t translate well or the meaning/nuance gets lost or not conveyed as accurately. Future chapters could also delve deeper into this subject or I could have interpreted this wrong.

If anyone else interpreted this differently please share your thoughts in the comments, as I like to hear others thoughts and opinions.

    Coco February 15, 2024 9:39 am

    I don't think it's translation issue. I think author deliberately tried to show how victims blame themselves because of how society think. I think in the end author will show how this is wrong and that victim shouldn't be blamed.

    Yjk x Kdj February 15, 2024 9:59 am

    I think how the author made it about their attractiveness is valid. The showbiz industry works on how charming a person is, also we the audience only knows them through what they show which is basically a made up character and their polished appearance which again is their looks. And when it comes to representation, do we even want to know the perpetrators side? The victims are who that needs justice. If the author focused on the perpetrators malice, there wouldn’t be the story of the victims suffering and their subsequent actions and it’s consequences. Now that we have Hikaru’s story we feel the weight of what he has done reduced. He was a victim and a perpetrator later.

    So I got lost in my own text . I hope I passed what I was trying to say….

    Cutie February 15, 2024 10:29 am
    I think how the author made it about their attractiveness is valid. The showbiz industry works on how charming a person is, also we the audience only knows them through what they show which is basically a made ... Yjk x Kdj

    I agree

    Kronus^^ February 15, 2024 10:54 am

    I like everyone's opinions regarding the recent chapters. I don't exactly know what the author's intention is but it seems like each opinion can apply to it.

Lavender February 13, 2024 12:24 am

Please, my man is selling his pride for some unseasoned chicken breast

    AWinterWonderLand February 13, 2024 12:32 am

    everyone's so focused on the "unseasoned" part.

    Lavender February 13, 2024 12:41 am
    everyone's so focused on the "unseasoned" part. AWinterWonderLand

    Yes, but it's also a matter of how much effort or difficulty the dish requires, as well as how good it tastes. Everyone wouldn't have cared if the ML made the MC chicken congee (known for being lightly seasoned), but the fact that he had a chef make it is what matters. Not only did this guy have someone else make the dish, but he also failed to instruct them on how to make it well (this guy even failed to play into nostalgia and make the dish that MC's grandma used to cook). In terms of effort, he put in the LEAST amount, which is insane since it equates to a sentence to the chef

    Lavender February 13, 2024 12:44 am
    Yes, but it's also a matter of how much effort or difficulty the dish requires, as well as how good it tastes. Everyone wouldn't have cared if the ML made the MC chicken congee (known for being lightly seasoned... Lavender

    Like if the ML can't even instruct his staff to season your food, I doubt he's going to be considerate or helpful at ALL going forward

    Elihinata February 13, 2024 12:46 am

    Didn’t even had side vegetables TTwTT

    Lavender February 13, 2024 12:51 am
    Didn’t even had side vegetables TTwTT Elihinata

    Even the friend packed him his favourite side dishes the ML has the game of a 20-year-old broke college student. This was the equivalent of a frat bro giving you part of his weekly meal prep and expecting you to be overjoyed

    AWinterWonderLand February 13, 2024 12:51 am
    Like if the ML can't even instruct his staff to season your food, I doubt he's going to be considerate or helpful at ALL going forward Lavender

    Wait. How do you know what went in it or how it's made?!?

    And also, you're comparing something that's been made by Yi-Hyun's MOM. And they've been friends since FOREVER.

    Like, while they were hanging out, did YeJun cook that chicken the SAME way as how his grandma had made it for himself?!? Cuz how ELSE would Ian have known what kind of chicken it was!?? They knew each other for less than a year at school....

    AWinterWonderLand February 13, 2024 12:56 am
    Even the friend packed him his favourite side dishes the ML has the game of a 20-year-old broke college student. This was the equivalent of a frat bro giving you part of his weekly meal prep and expecting you t... Lavender

    Dunno. Maybe his cooking skills isn't up-to-par. Maybe he's never had to take care of anyone his ENTIRE life. Rich, entitled kid. Yi-Hyun's family runs a RESTAURANT, for goodness's sake.

    AWinterWonderLand February 13, 2024 1:11 am
    Yes, but it's also a matter of how much effort or difficulty the dish requires, as well as how good it tastes. Everyone wouldn't have cared if the ML made the MC chicken congee (known for being lightly seasoned... Lavender

    Actually, that made me question the part that YeJun said He couldn't eat anything that DoYoon hadn't made, so that means DoYoon cooks well?!? But since it's made by someone else it isn't as good???

    That wasn't a mix up in names right?!?

    Lavender February 13, 2024 1:18 am
    Wait. How do you know what went in it or how it's made?!?And also, you're comparing something that's been made by Yi-Hyun's MOM. And they've been friends since FOREVER.Like, while they were hanging out, did YeJ... AWinterWonderLand

    Bruh, time isn't a factor here, it's consideration. The ML is and has always been an a**hole so of course the only thing he noticed was chicken and not the small details. If he even half what cared he would have asked questions about the MC or showed interest in him during their time together. And honestly, Idc, if that's what he wanted from the relationship fine. This last chapter, however, is a joke since it's just an attempt to force chemistry between 2 characters without any chemistry at all. The author is trying to play the 'see he's always been secretly watching you' card (and maybe a good person!) and it's just lazy writing. In my opinion, a shamelessly terrible/blatant red flag is better than when they try to sell and pretend a red flag is a green one or suddenly (and poorly) change things up because they realize everyone hates the ML.

    As for the chicken, there's a certain level of inferring/reading between the scenes that's done in literature. Knowing the ML and his family background you can easily piece together they have various staff who serve them, this would include a chef. Pair that with the sister saying the chicken was 'requested' for the main course means the ML gave some level of instruction to the chef to prepare the meal for the MC. Then looking at the drawings you can see a lack of colour in the piece of chicken given to the MC (roasted chicken tends to be slightly golden/brown and any seasoning would have given some sort of speck in colour including pepper). So while you are right to say there's no concrete evidence this chicken is bland asf, there's also no concrete evidence stating the chicken is NOT bland asf

    Lavender February 13, 2024 1:24 am
    Dunno. Maybe his cooking skills isn't up-to-par. Maybe he's never had to take care of anyone his ENTIRE life. Rich, entitled kid. Yi-Hyun's family runs a RESTAURANT, for goodness's sake. AWinterWonderLand

    Lol he can read a book. Being a bad partner has no excuse, go to therapy If you suck at cooking then you, BUY a good meal or you PRACTICE. It's not a hard concept

    Lavender February 13, 2024 1:27 am
    Actually, that made me question the part that YeJun said He couldn't eat anything that DoYoon hadn't made, so that means DoYoon cooks well?!? But since it's made by someone else it isn't as good??? That wasn't... AWinterWonderLand

    I have a feeling that it has something to do with pheromones. But if he does know how to cook, it makes the reader wonder why THAT wasn't the badum badum moment. The ML personally making the MC's favourite food or learning to make his favourite food would have had more emotional impact than him half-heartedly instructing a chef to prepare a super common/sub par meal.

    AWinterWonderLand February 13, 2024 1:35 am
    Bruh, time isn't a factor here, it's consideration. The ML is and has always been an a**hole so of course the only thing he noticed was chicken and not the small details. If he even half what cared he would hav... Lavender

    I wasn't inferring the chicken wasn't bland. It didn't look appetizing at all. That's why I lol's at your comment. I just meant that since it's a family gathering and they went to the (family) home that chefs are a given so for the chicken to be so tasteless (from the coloring)....who knows. It wouldn't be possible for him to go and cook at their kitchen. They were just guests. Ofc, if DoYoon had never had to wait hands and feet or cook for himself then he's prob not good.

    But what threw me off is the phrase where YeJun said (to himself) that he couldn't eat anything that wasn't made by DoYoon. So that means DoYoon DOES know how to cook the (chicken)/food like how YJ likes it?!?

    AWinterWonderLand February 13, 2024 1:40 am
    Lol he can read a book. Being a bad partner has no excuse, go to therapy If you suck at cooking then you, BUY a good meal or you PRACTICE. It's not a hard concept Lavender

    Let me tell you something funny. My parents aren't good cooks.

    My mom worked a lot. And following recipes is hard. But with the advent of YouT*be and retirement, she's gotten a lot better. Like being able to see it being made does help. And she had more time after retirement. But she doesn't know how to season food very well. Sometimes it would be very salty. And sometimes very bland (under salted). Or overly seasoned or undersea seasoned. She just doesn't have the knack for it. So it requires a lot of time and dedication. I don't think, without practice and dedication, he wouldn't spontaneously get good. I'm sure he didn't plan all that time to get married and thought about cooking for him. But if the inner thought bubble was correct then DY did indeed knows how to cook for YJ. Just not when others make that dish?

    AWinterWonderLand February 13, 2024 1:42 am
    I have a feeling that it has something to do with pheromones. But if he does know how to cook, it makes the reader wonder why THAT wasn't the badum badum moment. The ML personally making the MC's favourite food... Lavender

    Lol. I Should HOPE THAT A CHEF working for that family be more than qualified. Lol.

Lavender February 11, 2024 12:46 am

I'm happy I'm not the only one who has gone feral for these butlers

Lavender February 7, 2024 10:02 am

I won't lie, this chapter was adorable, but this guy already had plans for his and Alicia's future together to the extent that he had already adopted a family pet. He shouldn't have to 'recognize his feelings' when he has been rallying to become her husband since Day 1

    cho February 7, 2024 12:17 pm

    Legit how dense is he to his own thoughts

Lavender February 7, 2024 7:20 am

Is he playing hard to get or are you playing hard to get rid of?

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