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VIOLENCE

karel was not hating on ballet he just didn't want to hear about the hardships sasya went through back in russia

Yh these people cannot read between the lines. Sasya was using ballet to switch the topic by comparing how much worse the ballet was. It's easy to see as someone who loves sasya that hearing the abuse he went through is really tough for him(especially how he was down playing it). Notice how when he was drunk talking about the ballet moonlight he didn't stop him? Honestly reading comprehension here is low.

See how I read it was similar to what Melodramatic said above where Karel doesn't like hearing about Sasya's hardships but I was factoring in how Karel likes to throw a rose colour veil over everything (he has shown multiple times that he likes to fix things and if they can't be fixed he pretends that everything is ok ie. Sasya's drug abuse or his insistence that Sasya just relies on him for his livelihood (the don't worry about anything, I will deal with everything approach)). So to me, Karel doesn't like Sasya reliving his ballet stories because he associates it with all the bad things Sasya went through and not him reminiscing over good memories (his love for ballet). Similar to how some friends might get angry when you reminisce about times you had in an abusive relationship (because obviously there were good times otherwise, you wouldn't have gotten into it or stayed in it). Sasya has a complicated relationship with ballet, as most highly competitive athletes do but Karel has a hard time understanding that, as he was an outside observer he could only see his loved one get hurt (which is a completely valid reaction to be upset with the thing that hurt your loved one, but relationships are complicated).
Sasya noticed Karel's digest/negativity towards ballet, hence why he would bring up ballet as a way to redirect from conversations he didn't want to have. (ie. him abusing alcohol). It also is used as a way to play down current worries/dangers and help ease Karel's worries/concerns (literally 'its ok, I've been through worse' mentality, comparing a small trauma to a big trauma).

For the incident of the drunk talking about the song Moonlight, the conversation initially didn't have a clear point/train of thought and came off as drunk ramblings about a random song. It's not until part through Sasya's monologue that he mentions the song was used as a warm-up song for his ballet company, prompting Karel to respond with "Sasya you're drunk." This statement can be taken in a number of ways depending on literature/media and culture, but commonly it's used as a dismissive statement (ie. when you are drunk, you don't know what you are saying/doing or the statements drunk people say are to not be taken at face value (ie. drunk ramblings)). Therefore it could be argued that that statement alone was Karel's gentle way to try and dismiss/avoid the topic altogether. Now is he going to be toxic and further derail the conversation when Sasya continues on? No, he loves him. It's similar to letting your drunk friend talk about how much they miss their EX even though they were abusive and you hate the guy.

However, my statement was referring to how it's hard to love something so much that it hurts you but the people who love you only see the negative in it. Not being able to bring up a topic you love because you know your spouse/loved one only associates it with negative things is hard emotionally.

I have a friend who competed at an extremely high level in Irish dance for many years, however, because weight was an indirect factor in the sport she would regularly participate in extreme dieting. This resulted in her having an unhealthy relationship with food for many years even after she retired. When her current boyfriend initially found out about it, having only seen the negative after-effects (her ED) he associated Irish dance and her years doing it as something negative and would get upset whenever she mentioned it or made a joke about her ED/the dieting she used to do. This made the topic a sensitive one, obviously, she didn't want to upset her bf, so she tried her best to steer clear of it (she did however bring it up on occasion similarly to Sasya as a 'I survived through this so I can survive through other things' type thing).
But her having been a dancer most of her life, it was a part of who she was and she eventually found it hard to NOT talk about dance as it was also the source of a lot of her best memories. She eventually had to have a sit-down conversation with him and explain that his wanting to completely ignore/pretend that a whole part of her life didn't happen was emotionally hard on her as it's a part of her, it's not something she can erase and is something she would not erase. She further had to explain that she does understand his POV and emotions towards everything was from a place of concern and love but if they wanted to move forward they would have to process those things together.

Hopefully, this explanation can help you understand where I'm coming from a little better.

I do agree I could have worded the statement better, but I think it's important to remember that part of the reason for these discussion boards is to hear others' thoughts and interpretations of the story as well as to help clarify it for people. Unless someone makes offensive or critical comments, I think making comments about someone's reading comprehension takes away from people's overall enjoyment and can discourage people from reading or interacting going forward (which in the long run hurts the author). I did really like hearing things from your point of view though as it makes me look at the story and dynamic in a different way. I'm excited to dive further into Sasya and Karel's relationship and see how it progresses going forward.
Happy reading! ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

Luckily I know how to read fast, damn this is long . Also I really don't care that much at this point. They both done wrong, but the story is more Karel pov and haven't communicated sasyas thought process or reasoning so it's complicated. At the moment tho I'm more in favour of Karel because it's not as if everyone is automatically a licence therapist it's not easy to help others he just fell in love at first sight (which isint a crime). And sasya was not ready. I for one don't like the characterisation that everyone is saying Karel is trapping him. When up to this point of the story we can see that he simply told him to leave the job where he was physically assaulted at.
Anyways yh. Don't need to reply to this, this drama is too complicated and I have no energy to change minds.