MC: *mentions how he plans to move to Serpent territory next year* because "I saw the place where I can finally settle"
Me: Can he... Can he do that?
But like FR doesn't he need permission to move there? Especially after a long time of war?
Haha he is doing for love (づ￣ ³￣)づ
He is planning to quit military and he’s ML's mate.
I know, but the snake tribe doesn't know that. So out of context, the whole thing sounds wild. Imagine someone telling you randomly they will move into your territory next year (without asking you, the leader), after you just talked about them killing a bunch of your soldiers.
I'm kind of disappointed because the scene in the holy kingdom doesn't have the same vibe as the novel. It could just be because of the art style but in the novel, it felt more intense and you could really tell how despised Jesse was by the Holy Kingdom Prince Consort (more unsettling). But I feel like this gave me more cartoon villain vibes whereas in the novel the scene felt more raw (Jesse's family dynamic/background is actually so tragic). Also in the novel, I felt like there was more of an energy shift after the sibling came in (very hot and cold vibes to hint at the difference in treatment/love between the siblings). I kind of hope they can channel the intensity better in the future because idk how some of these scenes are going to be conveyed later (it's been a bit since I read the novel but there are definitely some emotional scenes and idk how that's going to work with this style).
hi, can you let us know where u read the novel
Google 'TWSB novel' I've only found up to chapter 150 though
Why am I still here....I have to stop reading messy plots like this
i get what you mean i read stuff like this then complain and then continue onto the next chapter
FR. It's Peach Girl all over again
You are not alone
Ines is the type to plan something like this but she isn't the type to unjustly frame Carcel. Her goal is to leave not hurt him. She's setting up opportunities for him to cheat more easily (tempting him), but she's not planning to hurt him (beyond rejecting his love) or ruin his character. This is why she plans so much for both of their futures (and was even putting extra thought into who would be a proper affair partner for him). Also with her PTSD/trust issues and his history of affairs and behaviour, it's not a surprise that she doesn't fully trust him or herself and is slow to fall in love.
So I think we can relax. Knowing Carcel he will probably end up crying or the crazy lady will somehow insult him and Ines will comfort him or defend him.
Bruh, how is she trying NOT TO HURT HIM????????? She is trying to leave him, whether he is cheating or not. That's the plan. She doesn't consider his emotions at all!
Did carcel consider Ines'es feeling when he used to fuck every woman in sight? He didn't even care to ask ines why she was gloomy, is she unwell or not. He just decided "Oh ines Don't smile at me so imma fuck womens l meet at parties".
Ines is literally in a position of NO power. In her 1st life, she was trapped in a torturous marriage with the prince and could only escape through her own suicide, in her 2nd life she tried to run away and was dragged back to be married off to that same prince. In this life, her family confined her many times and gave her no support when she had a mental breakdown. Her ONLY option was marriage to someone with equal power to the prince which left her with ONE option, Carcel. Now I do feel for the dude, in the fact that he apparently SECRETLY loved her for several years, but I think people keep forgetting his BEHAVIOUR prior to their marriage. This man OPENLY AND VERY PUBLICALLY cheated on his fiance NUMEROUS TIMES, he talked down about her and let others talk bad about her as well, he completely trashed her reputation and made her the subject of ridicule. And then when HE decided that he was going to stop acting dumb and stop denying his feelings, he insisted and pushed for the marriage to happen (not in a loving way might I add, he used his power and privilege to do it). An OPENINGLY LOVELESS marriage, he KNOWLINGLY went into. It's also a marriage that he has complete control over, and complete control over HER (ie. him literally confining her to the house and the staff blatantly ignoring her wishes over Carcel's). The biggest backlash this man can get is his feelings getting hurt, and if someone doesn't return your feelings, deal with it, that's not on them, no matter how cute you are. He's suffering from the harsh awakening that he had an inflated ego, thinking Ines was obsessed with him and would put up with any sort of behaviour and the consequences of his own actions (and yes he does talk about this multiple times in the story). No one would suspect Carcel of cheating if he hadn't made that his whole personality. No lady would trespass and enter a lord's room at a time when it was okay to kill women for no reason, without beyond a reasonable doubt they would be open to an affair. He said himself that he had been approached NUMEROUS times since his marriage to Ines, by women who were looking to have an affair (why? because that's his thing, heck he's still meeting alone with the friend's daughter despite knowing the rumours that could occur because he wants Ines to get jealous). He can only blame himself because he's being judged on his previous actions (something that again he knows and acknowledges). Carcel though cute has only recently started showing interest and open affection toward his wife, hence why everyone is confused by his behaviour and people keep approaching the both of them to have an affair (because why do you suddenly love the fiance you so openly despised FOR YEARS).
Neither party is in the right here but neither party is in the wrong either.
Also, the fact that the worst-case scenario of this whole thing is Carcel gets his feelings hurt or Ines becomes enslaved, raped, and tortured again is pretty unfair to compare and judge. She's literally manipulating him for her survival and the worst she's done is give him several opportunities to cheat and push him towards other women, something he's done himself for the past 10 years, why would she think he suddenly changed after a few months of marriage? (which she has also said she's confused by, she keeps asking herself WHY he won't have an affair like he always has before). She's also gone out of her way to look out for him by performing her duties as dutchess excellently, creating positive relationships with his coworkers, defending him within society and performing her other marital duties.
The only thing she hasn't done is return his feelings, WHICH SHE DOESN'T HAVE TOO AND HE KNOWS THAT TOO. Hence why he's sad and clingy all the time, because he knows he fumbled the bag hard and Ines is a bad B. And again both Ines AND Carcel literally admit fault to this whole situation, so idk how people can blame one over the other. If y'all want to hate on someone, hate on literally everyone else. These 2 wouldn't be so traumatized and have such a messed up marriage and personalities if they weren't surrounded by psychopaths and lived in a shit society. These 2 are an example of victims of circumstance.
They weren't in a relationship...
Girl, aint nobody reading this. You just lost a bunch of time.
They were engaged
Yeah, it was arranged, that doesn't make a "relationship."
they were engaged
Did you even read the story or was that too long for you as well?
let me just say: yes I read the whole thing and WHERES THE LIE?! someone needs to shorten this for the lazy people in the back
Do you read like a plant and never do any deduction? They were 6 and it was arranged by Ines' request. It wasn't romantic, it was merely a contract.
The moral of the story is this man after committing years of adultery and dragging her reputation and name through the mud in hopes of getting noticed. KNOWINGLY, entered a loveless marriage (through his power and insistence). Now he has to deal with the consequences of his actions, which he has admitted MULTIPLE times are his fault. As well as he has to deal with the fact that changing his personality/behaviour for 5 months after 10+ years of crappy behaviour is going to make everyone around him confused (because EVERYONE in society is rn, why do you suddenly care for the woman you openly despised and avoided for so many years) and not trust him (who would fall for someone like that right away?).
Well, we're reading different stories apparently.
Also let's look at worst case scenarioes here
Carcel= gets his feelings hurt
Ines= gets forced to marry the prince, where she's raped and tortured and will probably die or kill herself again
So to judge someone whose only option is to manipulate for survival (remember she already tried running away, the only choice was to marry someone with status that could rival the prince's and that only option is Carcel) is pretty freaking brutal.
She literally has no power or rights as a woman in that society, she can't do anything. Hence WHY she wants a divorce because she will have some power through an hier.
Well. For me
Arranged or not.... carcel made comments (badmouthing ines) while funking woman in ch 1.
He was like " ines is soo nun; I like funking sexy woman like you"
while looking at the woman's breast in ch 1
And that made me hate carcel soo much. I puked a bit
(ーー;)
EXACTLY "it wasn't romantic, It was merely a contract" Then Carcel will be just fine. Because he knowingly entered this contract marriage and any emotions he feels falls onto himself
And if he's only upholding this, loveless contract marriage. What's the issue with Ines not returning his love and giving him permission to cheat?
He was 6 then while Ines was in her Idk 84th life??? Like sister, Im done with this topic. BYE. See you next week.
"3rd life" and I was talking about the extension/continuation of the marriage contract which is in fact the marriage itself and is the only reason why they got married. Bye bye
+10000!!!
I hope some readers got the patience to read this. Cos this is the whole point.
Finally someone who talked out my feelings on them both.
He tried to get close to her since they were 6. He only started sleeping around like what? 16? She been pushing him away for like 10yrs and you think the poor boy should keep clinging to her? I would move on too.
Go reread. The woman were saying it. Not him.
You can't read fs. Ofc he will say it's his fault bc what person who gets manipulated will know they're manipulated. Ines isn't going to tell him she made him cheat on her. The only thing she say is that it's not his fault bc that is true to her. You're also making shit up bc what 10+ years? She manipulated him since 6. He had been trying to get close to her until 16. They're now 23. Not only can you not read, you can't even math.
You know what's so funny about this shit? Ppl thinking she has no power but she chose all her marriage herself. She loved the prince and chose him. Her parents didn't choose him. She did. She just find out he's shit and try to run away bc she can't cancel the wedding with excuse that she came back in time. She seduced a stranger to help her run away.
Carcel has no say in this marriage. She chose this one too. She used the empress to help her bc she knows the empress hates her and don't want her to marry the prince but the empress still want her family connection so she used the empress to form the engagement between her and Carcel. Carcel couldn't cancel it. If he has the say why he still stuck in the engagement all this time with a girl who won't even give her attention? Ines kept him trapped in the engagement using the empress and Carcel can't turn it down. When she finally wanted to marry, she just appear in front of him cheating to guilt trip him. He also didn't decide this.
You keep saying he shit talk her and I'll keep repeating, you can't read shit bc it was the woman saying it. All he does is listen to it bc he doesn't care about rumors. Every one make up rumors bc they're nobles. What do you expect? It not just Ines who even get trash talked about. Carcel get that too and Ines only defended him now bc she's falling for him. Before she would've left rumors alone too. Carcel did the same shit so how's that different? Go reread.
Yeah, she doesn't got to return his feelings but she also don't got to use him and leash him just to use him. She's keeping him tied to her to use him without returning anything that he rly want. She keep asking why he doesn't do that bc she doesn't know him well. She hearing Raul even tell him how he rly is at Calztela and she still kept questioning it bc she just don't want to admit that what she thought about him from rumors before were wrong. Ines only think he's a womanizer bc she kept hearing those rumors when she was cprincess. She knew almost nothing about him.
i read the whole thing
this some people have issure with Reading comprehension.
Can't deny the fact that he was the one who rushed into this marriage after hearing that she's not interested in him at all.
you are angry because the ines chose carcel at a young age with the power of empress and he could do nothing at all then.but did you forget about all of the avoidance of his marriage with ines that he even ran off to the academy just to delay his marriage.and while at the meetings/dinner with ines' family just two weeks before the marriage.he even learned that the duke(ines's father) had been planning for the wedding be called off if he had delayed the marriage until later which means he had the chance to run from this trap of a marriage you are talking about rn
Help of the empress* mean
Whoever post this should reread ch10. "And my naivete at age 16, when I dreamt of becoming Oscar's wife..." Ch16 also saying how she used to be shallow so no surprise if she did want to marry him.
They should also reread ch42 bc that was when she started inviting women to their home to get Carcel to cheat. Latest ch show Ines just flaming the rumors to let women think they're free to seduce Carcel and then when she invite them to their home, the women are just crazy to think that's true. I don't see how ppl think Ines didn't plan all this?
And right now you guys are mad about how she's set up the plan to make carcel as having an affair.that was her plan from the start.she's been meaning to do it way before their marriage.she even told him to live just the way he did before the marriage but seeing as how he's not falling for the other girls temptations.she planned to do it herself if that is how she's going to get both of their freedom.we understand that you guys are angry at how she's setting carcel up despite him being loyal and all.but living all the other life before she's not going to believe the love of a man/not yet.she doesn't plan on trapping carcel nor her in this sham of a marriage and that is she planned this because the husband of hers is not falling for other women and divorce is out of question if he's not involved in any affair.
I had the same exact reaction
Yeah, a grown woman I’m a child’s body pointed to a 6 year old boy who was scared out of his mind and said “I’ll marry you.” And thus it was set in stone. So naturally, readers like you think the child should’ve been a good little boy and lived his life like a monk until the grown woman was hood and ready to put her plans into action… meanwhile you also ignore the very fact that she chose him specifically because she didn’t want him to live his life like a monk. She wanted him to be the man he is to enact those plans.
You think he went to the academy to avoid marrying her but he didn't. She later finds out that he does like the military. Looks like you don't read too. There's two sides to their story. She also didn't want to marry at that time so she was fine when he went to the academy. The duke didn't even say he been planning to call off the wedding. The duke just saying he wanted that but he can't do anything about it bc his daughters always wanted the wedding. Go reread. Even Carcel knew that they're always still engage bc Ines always wanted it. The duke cant do anything. He literally always spoil his daughter. Even if he hates it, he'll leave it alone bc Ines wants it.
I'm not even mad that she set up the plan. I'm mad that ppl blaming Carcel on something that's Ines' plan. Like the poor guy is getting hated in the comments from ppl who keep atking him for cheating when she planned it. If they got issues with him cheating, they should look at the source of the issue. You're blaming the victim for what the perpetrator make him do. The perpectrator here also a victim of another perpectrator. The rl villain here is Oscar and no one even remember him. I saw in another comment where they think Carcel gave her stds like wtf. That was Oscar.
And that's the point.boy if he lived like how a certain engaged man was supposed to and not run around fooling around with woman just so he could get ines's attention.maybe ines wouldn't be dead set on getting divorce trying to set him up with girls thinking he'll be fed up with her soon and be back to living his life before marriage?? Oh i am sorry i was not aware of people calling him that
All because he started to fool around with girls she became even more determined to divorce him after marriage.hence with this plan
If he had lived without doing all that, she would've called off the engagement and wedding alrdy. She WANTED a cheater. Like do no one understand that?
She is not dead set to divorce him bc of how he is before marriage. She been plotting divorce she was 10. You think he cheating at 10? Hello?
Ch 13 show the engagement still continue bc Ines wanted it. "This engagement has only lasted so long because while Ines may not like me or even have any interest in me, she at least wants me."
Ch 24 show she's plotting divorce with a lawyer at 10. The lawyer said the countess got a better verdict bc her husband had infidility so Ines was taking notes to get Carcel to cheat to get a better verdict when they divorce.
That's what i said.divorce has been her plan from the start.but what made her even more pumped up in getting the divorce after getting married is his promiscuity before marriage.all this plan of her came to motion because she was sure he would fall for women's charms and then they both would be free.him with his previous life & her with a peaceful death
About their wedding yes the duke did nothing to stop it because ines wanted it(think about why ines wanted it in the first place).but carcel knew he knew that he had the chance to call off the wedding if he delayed it a little longer.but no boy went impotent and had to proceed with the wedding.
So don't come saying ines trapped him into the wedding.and he was not give choices.
Given*
As you said ines ruined his life by choosing him.although she couldn't do much but for that very reason ines' told him that nothing shall be changed.live how you've been living before.
He went with the wedding bc Ines guilt trip him into it bc now she wants the wedding. It wasn't something he just decided without someone else or something else making him do it. You should think about it. Carcel nvr could call off the wedding bc he's just following the parents and the empress. His parents didn't turn it down. The empress wants it. Her parents continued it bc her father just follow what she wants. So you think about it. Who got the rl say here? His parents didn't do anything. The empress is doing what Ines wants. Her parents is doing what Ines wants. Carcel is stuck listening to the parents and the empress.
I don't think you even understand. If he didn't cheat before marriage, she would've ended the engagement using her father and find someone else who does bc that's what she wants. Him cheating before marriage isn't just pumping her up for divorce bc she alrdy planned it for 17yrs. She doesn't need him to be cheating on her before marriage to be pumped. If he didn't follow her plan during that 17yrs, she wouldn't even have stayed engaged to him.
NEVERMIND, I DON'T FEEL BAD FOR THE BROTHER. HE CAN ROT IN HELL
WHAT HAPPENS??
Nah I would have taken that old hag out. If I'm going down, you're coming with me.
1 step forward, 3 steps back. If he was an athlete I would trade him
This made me laugh so hard, he never gets better and it's always her fixing or showing the effort in everything. Read all the way to just before the end of novel, like to ch 177 or so, where he was useless the whole time as a male lead. [Zero suction power, as a male lead and he's annoying when he shows up.]
Wait isn't blondie the guy from one of MC's past lives?