zivile April 19, 2020 11:39 am

Okay, the thing is if someone is on this site, she/he do not give much damn about illegal uploading. Next thing is, it is proven by some research that if person prefers read/watch/listen illegally, this person is not likely to buy stuff anyway. They better find some alternatives. Meaning, if this manga will not be uploaded, not many are going to buy chapters to see whats coming and they just go to find something else to read. So basically, mangaka is not losing that much of money as it would seem. Also, have you seen the prices lately? I am not telling, let's go and do everything illegally, but not every piece of art is worth money which have been asked. Besides, I am supporting artist on patreon, but I can do it based on my salary, which is not enough to buy every manga I would like to read. So, do not get down on people who are poor and want some joy. If you can buy it, do it, but do not expect everyone be able to do the same.

    anon April 19, 2020 11:51 am

    omaygahhhdddddddd!!!!! people like you, I swear! There's no justification for this. This is the livelihood of the author who buys their food, their clothes, pays their bills, rent, etc. PAID CONTENT is not for the free consumption of the "poor" (as what you have stated) that's why it's PAID CONTENT. mygahddd! (infinite facepalm)

    zivile April 19, 2020 12:23 pm
    omaygahhhdddddddd!!!!! people like you, I swear! There's no justification for this. This is the livelihood of the author who buys their food, their clothes, pays their bills, rent, etc. PAID CONTENT is not for... @anon

    You understand that we are on site which provides that paid content for free, right? You are trying to make a point here of all places? Like, what do you expect? We come here knowing well we are reading the content, which can be bought. But you know, I can not afford to buy all the movies I want to watch as well, so I am using torrent. I can not afford all tv shows I want to watch, because we have this streaming system, which would require me to subscribe platforms as netflix, hbo and so on. I dont have money to buy all the cd's to listen the music I want. If you have that much money to do it all and buy all, congrats, you are kinda wealthy. But you see, most people are not.

    anon April 19, 2020 12:28 pm
    You understand that we are on site which provides that paid content for free, right? You are trying to make a point here of all places? Like, what do you expect? We come here knowing well we are reading the con... zivile

    there's no point discussing with you. ugh. just stop justifying the actions of those "most people". being not wealthy is not an excuse to steal paid content. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    Tea is muah April 19, 2020 12:43 pm

    You are correct. Most people are aware that a certain manga exists due to exposure on sites like these. But just because people like to read illegally doesn't mean that they will never pay the artist. I myself intend to buy chapters of my favourite mangas but I can't do much because all my money comes from my parents. But this only applies to mangas like these. What about those english webtoons from Lezhin or tapas or renta? I think they're the people who have to lose most from sites like these. Many english reader who start out buying don't follow through because pirated versions are available on the net. But not everyone can buy them and at least reading it here motivates at least some people to support the artist someway like you do with their patreon.

    Where I do think you're wrong is here:

    'Not every piece of art is worth the money asked for'
    That is seriously rude.That statement in itself is so very ignorant of how much artists have to works to bring out the manga they drew. Please have respect for people in this field. Do you know how competitive things are? As an artist myself, I know how hard it is to draw even one full page, let alone storyboarding, plot and all that extra jazz that goes into it. If you don't wanna buy it, I understand, but you don't have to be so rude about it. All that translation to english does take extra time and effort on the behalf of the publisher. So I don't think they're wrong to charge a few extra bucks for it.

    Anonymous April 19, 2020 12:45 pm
    omaygahhhdddddddd!!!!! people like you, I swear! There's no justification for this. This is the livelihood of the author who buys their food, their clothes, pays their bills, rent, etc. PAID CONTENT is not for... @anon

    Ya why u on mangago then… only stolen stuff here hypocrite

    zivile April 19, 2020 12:53 pm
    there's no point discussing with you. ugh. just stop justifying the actions of those "most people". being not wealthy is not an excuse to steal paid content. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ @anon

    Oh, you got it all wrong, I am not justifying anything. Like, why would I? I told you what I understand what I am doing perfectly. And being poor is not the excuse, it is the reason. For example, people in Netherlands tend to buy movies legally, people in post-soviet countries, as Lithuania, have tendency to get everything illegally. Why? Because minimum wage is 3 times bigger in Netherlands than in Lithuania. As for the living expenses, they are not so different for the household of at least to person. Where is some differences if it is one person household, but not gonna go in details. So, don't put being poor as a choice of people, who just want to watch some movie or read some manga. Of course, where are people who just want free stuff, but some really are struggling. And I said to not get down on them for that.

    zivile April 19, 2020 1:07 pm
    You are correct. Most people are aware that a certain manga exists due to exposure on sites like these. But just because people like to read illegally doesn't mean that they will never pay the artist. I myself ... Tea is muah

    This is why I said ,,every piece of art", not manga. I didn't just manga, I meant art business in general. And I stand by my point, not all the art is worth the pricing. Just because you spend long time doing something, means it is worth asked price. People tent to get greedy. Take banana and tape picture. Why do you think people made fun the fact it was sold over 100000? Do you think it was worth it? I don't. Take fiverr. Do you honestly think all the artist there asking for reasonable price? Where are a lot YT videos showing how youtubers buy services there and compare the price and product. You will see, there are more people than me, who agree that some pieces of art are overpriced. Besides, I am drawing myself and know the struggle all too well, but this does not change what I said above.

zivile March 7, 2020 6:14 pm

Okay people, look I am getting really annoyed by all ,,rape is bad" thing. All the fucking decent human beings know it and just because we see it on manga don't mean I am about to go and rape someone, the same as I read about killing and other bad shit. I am just not going to go and do it. This is fantasy, the fruit of mangaka's imagination and if thats how they are telling the story so be it, as for me I just have to decide if I like it or not, and if not I am not going to read it, simple as that. If you think this kind of story telling or settings teach that rape is funny and nothing bad, the problem is not with manga but you. Don't fucking mix real life and imagination. If you are not able to separate these things and enjoy story, don't read it. And for god sake stop all lecture, I am not stupid to not know what rape is and that it can do to people, but for the real life people not the yaoi boys who do not exist. Like, these people on this manga live in some world where rape is something they get over easy and do not make anything of it. Maybe they do not even see it as rape. Maybe they are just created to be like this. And thats how it is. These settings are for that world and do not try to apply it for our reality.

zivile September 3, 2019 10:33 am

Okay, I have some theory. The crazy guy (sorry, don't remember the names) showed a photo where our main guy was friends with red hair guy. Our main guy didn't seem to remember that. So, I think something happened to him that caused his memories be mixed and changed. This could be caused by the reason of our main guy being a culprit and being the one who photoshoped the photos. His guilt got better of him and made him change everything what he remembers.

zivile August 25, 2019 10:37 am

I am so happy to get so much content in just a few days, but at the same time, I can't do anything but wonder why. I hope it is just motivation and inspiration boost and nothing more serious

zivile May 31, 2019 12:17 pm

Does anyone know where I can find raws of Aki confession to Haruki? I saw translated chapter but without pictures and I really want to see it visually.

    tsk May 31, 2019 10:36 pm

    please write that it's spoilers before u ask, i was just believing they'd end up friends and i have to deal with this mental shock -_- thank u

zivile January 22, 2019 9:48 pm

Okay, as for many people who want something between Mo and He Tian - nothing like progress will happen until a few years later when they are grown up. I can be wrong if Christmas specials are just for our entertainment, but if they are not - you all see that Mo and Te Hian were in the same boat as they are now. He Tian is teasing and Mo pretends not to be interested. So we have to wait to see them being older and maybe then something more romantic will happen between them. As for now, everything shows, they are going to stay in this state for some time.

zivile December 3, 2018 2:13 pm

I guess one way or another they both gonna die.

zivile November 10, 2018 6:20 pm

Looking to upcoming chapter I just concluded that the author is playing a game with this shitty censorship in her country :D She is so creative when it comes to going around it.

    Downcasteyes November 10, 2018 8:42 pm

    You've read the following chapters ? :)

    zivile November 10, 2018 9:56 pm
    You've read the following chapters ? :) Downcasteyes

    I wrote this comment before 264 showed up here.

    Downcasteyes November 11, 2018 12:22 pm
    I wrote this comment before 264 showed up here. zivile

    I see haha it's true ^^

zivile November 1, 2018 8:32 pm

I guess Sangwoo madness bloomed in all the colors when he realized that he actually enjoyed what his mom did to him. And from that moment his sane and mad sides are in everlasting battle.

    Leviathan November 2, 2018 12:57 am

    SW actually looked like he was terrified of his mum all the time.
    Especially when he was tied up with his mum sitting on top of him. It was confusion and horror on his face. So in no way did he enjoy being sexually enjoyed by his mum. A lot of rape victims feel immense guilt and trauma bcoz of the biological reaction of their body at the time of assault. You cannot control how your body reacts but that does not mean the victim actually enjoyed it/wanted it.
    Are ppl really that ignorant when it comes to basics info of sex assaults?

    Leviathan November 2, 2018 12:59 am
    SW actually looked like he was terrified of his mum all the time.Especially when he was tied up with his mum sitting on top of him. It was confusion and horror on his face. So in no way did he enjoy being sexua... Leviathan

    *assaulted

    zivile November 2, 2018 10:35 am
    SW actually looked like he was terrified of his mum all the time.Especially when he was tied up with his mum sitting on top of him. It was confusion and horror on his face. So in no way did he enjoy being sexua... Leviathan

    Okay, maybe my choice of words was a bit off. Yes, he was assaulted and that moment he felt what you described, but events which are happening now and SW words lead me to believe that he was in love with his mother. But this love was based on madness. And that assault broke him to pieces as she wished. This is so fucked up, I don't even know how deep it can go. But I still strongly believe that at the present then he has sex with Bum and in mind comparing that to the assault he is not feeling bad, he literally says ,,yes it feels good. Mom."

    Leviathan November 2, 2018 11:38 am
    Okay, maybe my choice of words was a bit off. Yes, he was assaulted and that moment he felt what you described, but events which are happening now and SW words lead me to believe that he was in love with his mo... zivile

    I think you've definitely got something going on there. However, an explanation that still aids this narrative is that his mum assaulted him in a manner where the rape wasn't " brutal" in the sense that his body could naturally feel pleasure. But that doesn't mean he actually liked it or felt love for her. That might explain the loathing he feels when he has sex with other women and but maybe even Bum at times. At the moment of assault, she was also role-playing I believe - SW was the husband (coz how she would keep calling him babe) and she's the wife and SW (the son who she never wanted) doesn't exist at all. And ofc it was a moment where she did indeed absolutely break him as she had total power over him.
    Everything is conflicting for him starting from the fact that this woman is his mum and since she has acted unstable all his life - so maybe part of him can't blame her, as she has manipulated to him an extent where he can't break her hold even after her death. So even if he has greatly realized by now what she tried to do to him all this time he still feels responsible and thus guilty that he felt good at that moment even when probably absolutely hated it (remember his eyes in that panel, he was terrified).
    He is also constantly hallucinating and mixing bum up with his mum. Partly bcoz of the resemblance and also coz all this time he had been laying the cards, setting Bum up to situations that would play out like his past and bum to take the role of the mother and him the father. So while he has grown attached to his own captive he has gotten muddled with his own set up and Bum is ultimately nothing like his mum, he actually feels sth for him. So the entire business gets even more convoluted and more of a mess for SW's fucked-up mind.

    Not sure if I made a lot of sense due to the factor of unreliable, dream-like narrative I'm KS and my writing being very haphazard from sleep deprivation.

    Leviathan November 2, 2018 11:40 am
    I think you've definitely got something going on there. However, an explanation that still aids this narrative is that his mum assaulted him in a manner where the rape wasn't " brutal" in the sense that his bod... Leviathan

    *in KS
    *ignore all the typos~

zivile October 10, 2018 2:33 pm

https://tw.weibo.com/oxian/4293665546007964 new chapter. I swear I am going to frame the last panel. I just can't, I probably die because of this cuteness.

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