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Logic: I have trust issues so I’ll give my partner some too!

Double it and give it another person

Where can I read the s3?

https://newtoki323.com/webtoon/9415401?toon=BL/GL

do they have english translation?

english is a bit behind. I just use google translate for the raws

The problem is Aelock is really clueless when it comes to money. Even his dad doesn’t know how to manage money, and had his own advisor, who retired after his death. A lot of nobles do… if you read the novel, Klopp criticizes a lot of his clients for being helpless

And Aelock was so broken at the ending of s1, his mind was consumed by so much pain, I didn’t expect him to really retain any useful information that could help him. And he didn’t have contact after his fall, and before his fall he was scammed by different people how could he remember it all after all that torment he went through. I remember in the novel v2, Klopp was saying that a few intelligent individual investors can get together and try to scam him. This happened in s1. Who could you trust? When a lot of factors worked against you… from misinformation and so on. Huhuhu I hate to admit but its really bad :(

As for going to Klopp, he did try hiring a different person, but that guy was just incompetent and made things worst for Aelock. He approved that bad investment. Just because Aelock’s dad long time friend recommended it doesn’t mean it’s any good. No one could really handle Teiwind’s enormous fortune and assets as good as Klopp, I hate to admit it. The reason why Klopp was so freaking rich in s1, is he knows how to manage nobles like Aelock, he even gained recognition from the royal family. Klopp was really the best in his field…

But I do feel frustrated that he still likes Klopp… but I think it’s because he did brainwash himself especially towards the end. He really thinks that Klopp was this good person who he dragged down by his sin. Even when Klopp was rude to him. He just takes it. The events from the first life is still there… and I hate it. I want Aelock to be more confident huhuhu!

Didn't aelock from tl 3 more confident than his original? But yeah too bad Klopp is an asshole who chased him again and again lmao

Pick me energy

I've seen and agreed with your comments here before so I appreciate the perspective LOL. The context helps but I still hate it Like I don't expect Aelock to remember every detail from his first life but making bad investments (regardless that they were a coordinated attack) is THE thing that made him lose all his money. So I feel like he should be way more cautious with investments this time around. I guess I just have an issue with the writing. It bugs me that Aelock's situation is pushing him back to Klopp because Klopp is written to be a uniquely smart investor while everyone else is stupid. It feels like a cheap way for Klopp to "save" Aelock.

I want to agree that Aelock likes Klopp because of some stockholm syndrome to protect himself but... again I just don't think the writing intended for that. In this chapter, Klopp was just rude to Aelock yet Aelock is giddily blushing from it? His first life was so traumatizing yet he doesn't really show any signs of that trauma, aside from choosing to avoid Klopp and he doesn't even stick to that decision. The authors always written it like Klopp is the *only* one for Aelock; he has such an unwavering love for him from the very first day even tho Klopp's consistently rejected it and the relationship never developed.

Yknow? If Aelock acknowledged that Klopp was awful to him in his first life and that he didn't deserve all that suffering, then it'd be way more compelling when Aelock finds he still loves Klopp. There'd be so much internal conflict. Instead, Aelock blames himself for everything and crushes on Klopp as if their history doesn't exist. It just feels lazy.

He's not rly a pick me, just dumb.

Yeah, he should have been more cautious. I know the time span has been months to almost a year before they meet again. But the financial thing, was really an awful way to connect both Klopp and Aelock back. I know Aelock isn’t good, but do you have to make him completely incompetent and extremely gullible to friends and family. I know this happens in rl, but it’s an awful way to force a connection between Klopp and Aelock. I was wondering why there aren’t other competent advisors, like is Klopp really the only one? I know Viscount Derbyshire probably pushed Aelock to go to Klopp… but is he really the only one?

I know the Teiwind fortune would be too much for a single advisor to handle, but seriously why do we have only Klopp as an option. (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

Aelock’s love is really genuine and pure which is a lot frustrating. He had this image that Klopp was really a good man but turned evil because of him. It came as a genuine shock to him, when he saw the red flags in Klopp’s attitude.

I was kind of puzzled about how he didn’t end up having a seizure from the first meeting, but I had this feeling that maybe Aelock was thinking that this whole event was some sort of dream at first. And as he realized it was his second chance, he just tells himself if he doesn’t get in the way of Klopp and Raphael it will all be alright. In the novel, Aelock still had nightmares… and would visibly be scared when Klopp gets angry. I’m not sure how his managing to be even near Klopp.

I agree with you. If he was able to acknowledge all the bad things about Klopp, and still find his way to love him after would have been better. I enjoyed reading the story, but I hate how Aelock was forced to be with Klopp. It did get better but how it started was really bad. I know that it was to show us, who the problem is, and that’s Klopp attitude towards Aelock. Since Aelock can’t make good decisions, out of fear or his yearning for his former children, Klopp basically overtakes most of it. He had to see bad things before he tried to be better, he had to hear it from someone else before he could understand that he was being selfish. I know character development is a work in progress, and it does take years to see any progress but Klopp was really a tool.

Yess I agree. That was interesting to read, thanks! It sounds like the novel gives a lot more insight into Aelock’s mindset

V5 should be out soon! Just one more side-story to go. Everyone has been waiting on it. The novel is actually really good. Aelock’s thoughts aren’t as broadcast as in the manhwa, Klopp just describes his expression most of the time or his interpretation of what Aelock is feeling.

So I’m enjoying seeing Aelock’s thoughts about the situation.

You should give it a try. It’s a quick binge read. Klopp’s hell of annoying sadly, but overall the journey was really worth it! Vol 2 is at knoxt

yeah bro lowkey thought he was gonna be a sweaty old man

Literally. Let's not kid ourselves, the only one who will get any ounce of character development is JK because Dan could "fix" him with his angel-like forgiving attitude. Even though this story follows Dan and we are at ch 43, we haven't had a single instance of character development on his side, he is still the same as he was in chapter 1 just in love with Horseface now...

Agree :/ (Horseface Bahahahahah, I can't)

That is the real shame with this one, Dan has no development. Not once has he even thought that Horseface (I’m stealing that, so thx) was a tiny bit wrong. I knew it would be toxic because I read BJ Alex but I never thought it would be this bad.

im sure a whole parliament of undead whos duty is to oversee human lives would have more reasonable definition of the extent of heinous wrongs and who deserve to go to purgatory than a single blinded person who is obsessed with someone and trying to prove himself

did you forget the plot is literally that wooyeol isn't an awful murderer like song-ah was led to believe? and that this other doppelganger turned into a murderer himself, probably just as bad as the person he replaced? meaning, the devils aren't omnipotent and they do make mistakes?
but even if that wasn't the case, it's still hypocritical. joon is still describing exactly what his job is. also like, do you think the aimless ghosts they pick out all wanted to be reborn, without any memories, just to immediately have to murder someone and assume that murderers life?

i didnt forget its true that they seem to make mistakes lee wooyeol being an example of that so if your point is for me to aknowledge that its hypocritical i agree, but i also still think a whole parliament that could check each other is better than a single persons thought. the doppelganger being just as cruel as the human it replaced was actually given attention in the lastest ep, if this is the case the doppleganger is "destroyed". and isnt that the point of spirits to be reborn or at least rest ? they are doing neither they are wandering ghosts the duty of those im the underworld is to continue the process it seems to also have its own system for which type of spirits go where. now im not saying they should assassinate someone once they've been reborn but it seems to be the authors way of managing their underworld in their story.

yeah I mean, ill always disagree that anyone at all can decide who 'deserves' to die. doesn't matter that joon's part of an organization dedicated to this, he's still just as wrong as the doppelganger.
Ig i missed the part where they mentioned those doppelgangers are destroyed, tho we've seen they can successfully just lie to pass? so it's again an oversight. I'd honestly consider it lazy writing if that stuff isn't addressed. like if the narrative goes "blond doppelganger was just a one-off accident and now that the situation is solved, joon will go back to his job as normal"... no, this conflict came up bc of the devil organizations existing flaws.

Yeah exactly "Who are you to decide who's good or bad" no, who are YOU to decide who is good or bad? You've decided a guy who's killed people to protect himself is bad and refuse to look at anything with nuance. Joon pisses me off honestly.