Rira December 7, 2024 10:29 pm

So the time has arrived when I bring this back from marination

Rira December 3, 2024 11:28 pm

It's like as if a 14 year old has taken over the job and filled it with her delusions without understanding the story, the characters and their motive. The amnesia cliche is the only one that's missing, LOL

Rira November 17, 2024 11:23 am

I think the name Kansler supposed to be Kanzler which means chancellor in German.

Rira November 8, 2024 11:42 am

Yes, the novel is slow burn but guys, don't stop yourselves from reading it, it is really well written, not superficial, clichéd and overly simplified as other stories. The first kiss happens in chapter 200 but I didn't felt of reading that much because the story held up my attention continuously.

    InuBLesque November 8, 2024 11:45 am

    Every chapter is short as well like bite size compared to usual length of kr novels so I think we'll get to that faster in manwha, not to mention they might skip some details from the novel

    MIssEricax November 8, 2024 12:35 pm

    that shouldn't be too far away now in the manhwa, getting closer to chapter 100 in the novel

    Plantame November 8, 2024 3:04 pm

    I like (reasonable) slow burns and I enjoy this story. It's hard to find a BL with a good written story. I didn't read the novel so I hope this won't disappoint me later and won't be dropped nor attacked like other good stories.

    MIssEricax November 8, 2024 9:58 pm
    I like (reasonable) slow burns and I enjoy this story. It's hard to find a BL with a good written story. I didn't read the novel so I hope this won't disappoint me later and won't be dropped nor attacked like o... Plantame

    I've been reading slow burns lately, it's nice

Rira November 6, 2024 11:13 pm

I skipped a lot of chapters, so would someone be kind enough to spoil me about what happened with Rudrik's parents after the Duke fell in coma and where is Onyl or what's the name of the OFL?

    I'm too single for this November 8, 2024 2:41 am

    The dad died and the mistress was thrown out, the mom escaped and is now living in fls mansion

Rira October 30, 2024 5:33 pm

The only logical reason for deviating this much from the novel to create something this badly written is that the manhwa finished earlier than the novel so the creators of the manhwa didn't know the ending of the novel. The outcome is superficial, mediocre and anticlimactic. They even made K a victim, LOL. If they did it deliberately, knowing the novel, they are not just talentless but plain stupid too.

    Baka October 30, 2024 8:39 pm

    Lol. I think most webtoon companies would never pick an incomplete novel. So it's definitely not the case here

    Rira October 30, 2024 8:45 pm
    Lol. I think most webtoon companies would never pick an incomplete novel. So it's definitely not the case here Baka

    Yeah, I really don't get why they thought it's better like this...Maybe a silent protest against the webtoon company for using them as slaves?

    Baka October 30, 2024 8:47 pm
    Yeah, I really don't get why they thought it's better like this...Maybe a silent protest against the webtoon company for using them as slaves? Rira

    Loll!!

Rira October 23, 2024 11:46 am

These changes take away so much, not just from Edith's character but from the others too. One example is Cliff. The main characters were all heavily under the influence of the author, Cliff the most, but even so, it was Cliff and only Cliff who saw through Lize from the start (but decided to help her anyways), not the Duke, the Duchess or anyone else. The other one is naturally Killian. Here, he was practically powerless and it was the princess who saved Edith. The princess who interacted with Edith 3 times or so...and Killian's great moment is gone. Not even talking about Linon, the witness, who should've brought the decisive evidence. He is the prime example of Edith's approach of constantly interacting with the extras as the only successful method.

    kerfluffy October 23, 2024 12:23 pm

    Ooh, can you tell us more about Killeon's part kn saving her from being executed?

    Rira October 23, 2024 1:13 pm
    Ooh, can you tell us more about Killeon's part kn saving her from being executed? kerfluffy

    Spoiler for the novel
    When Edith gave up hope, she returned with the knights in a sorry state and was taken to the execution ground without even questioning her of her involvement. The Duke was ready to execute her when Killian arrived and the Duke gave him the right to make a decision of Edith. Killian said those lines from the original novel, that every Riegelhoff deserve to die because of their crimes and then he said, my wife is, btw, a Ludwig. Then he talked about his investigation, there was chaos, Edith's hood fell off, they saw her injuries, even the Duke was surprised, thought that Edith was attacked after running away from the castle but Killian said that she sustained those injuries while in the caste by the maid and her brother, and the Duke eventually decided to put Edith to prison and continued with the execution. After Edith was taken away, Linon arrived to testify for Edith and the maid also the truth about Edith's lineage and her being a dog etc. Killian later also saw her bag, that she only carried a utility knife and a compass with her and had some sweet potatoes like the beggars and cried. It was a really good catharsis.

    kerfluffy November 3, 2024 9:02 am
    Spoiler for the novelWhen Edith gave up hope, she returned with the knights in a sorry state and was taken to the execution ground without even questioning her of her involvement. The Duke was ready to execute ... Rira

    Wow, that just feels so much more coherent and justified, not to mention cathartic, compared to what happened here :(. Idk why they didn't go through with it but what you told me would've no doubt delivered the most impact to the readers. Tysm for taking the time to write that out <3

Rira October 21, 2024 3:33 pm

I read the novel, to put it simply, the story is a wife chasing crematorium, ML is an idiot as they normally are but he fights and suffers for MC to get him back pretty long but MC is really reluctant. It's a pretty good story IMO

    Kim Dokja October 22, 2024 2:09 am

    Where did you read it? Is it completed?

    Rira October 22, 2024 2:00 pm

    Honestly, I don't really remember. Chrysanthemum garden has currently the first 7 chapters. I think I MTL-ed most of it, probably from Booktoki.

    Kim Dokja October 22, 2024 4:38 pm
    Honestly, I don't really remember. Chrysanthemum garden has currently the first 7 chapters. I think I MTL-ed most of it, probably from Booktoki. Rira

    Thanks

    worrygirl October 24, 2024 11:11 am
    Honestly, I don't really remember. Chrysanthemum garden has currently the first 7 chapters. I think I MTL-ed most of it, probably from Booktoki. Rira

    Do you have the link to it on booktoki

    Rira October 24, 2024 5:01 pm
    meruu November 21, 2024 4:32 am

    Dang, can you confirm if ML SUFFERED A LOT? Im contemplating whether yo give this a try as i can take toxic shit as long as the other party suffered so bad and has good redemption arc
    Thanks!!! (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    worrygirl November 27, 2024 6:07 pm
    Dang, can you confirm if ML SUFFERED A LOT? Im contemplating whether yo give this a try as i can take toxic shit as long as the other party suffered so bad and has good redemption arcThanks!!! (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ meruu

    I'm not finished the novel (2/3 done) but here's my pov. The MC and ML have a push and pull and eventually the MC gets pretty equal w him in terms of sassing back and attitude. He's not really a victim at this point anymore, bc years have passed so we only get to see him reminisce on his hard days when he was abandoned, now he's just jaded and dgaf. The ML slowly starts getting obsessed with him and I'm at the point where he's freaking out over him sometimes. Their relationship is constantly evolving and it's not really prone to sudden changes like most manhwas, where they mistreat the MC for a long time and suddenly overnight regret it and start acting different. Both MC and ML go together at a similar pace and are pushing and pulling on each other, realising new feelings slowly, fighting and getting along etc. It's kind of unique, almost like a really long and subtle redemption for their relationship. The world building in the novel is really good. MC has a lot of secret tricks and ML is actually more supportive and observant of MC than u would imagine but they still have the love-hate relationship and MC feels dead inside/over him so there's entertaining tension. I will update this if I finish and see if the ML suffers a lot, but right now their relationship isn't really that bad.

    Rira November 27, 2024 6:39 pm
    Dang, can you confirm if ML SUFFERED A LOT? Im contemplating whether yo give this a try as i can take toxic shit as long as the other party suffered so bad and has good redemption arcThanks!!! (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ meruu

    Yes, it will come in that last 1/3 worrygirl hasn't read yet. Spoiler


    ML finally came in term with his affection for MC, although he was still traumatised by what has done to him as a child but MC became an exemption. But MC got informed by the bad guy that ML spent his previous years trying to get a solution for getting rid of him, he breaks down emotionally, gets kidnapped and brainwashed to forget everything. ML follows him, he was crippled without his powers, lives like a homeless, getting beaten and tortured for I think 2 years but never gives up and finally rescues MC. Who rejects him, so ML will need to work hard for a bit more

    meruu November 28, 2024 5:53 pm

    Thank you, both!!!!! (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    Cher November 28, 2024 11:04 pm
    Yes, it will come in that last 1/3 worrygirl hasn't read yet. SpoilerML finally came in term with his affection for MC, although he was still traumatised by what has done to him as a child but MC became an exem... Rira

    I read some spoilers above your comment but did ml really sleep with other people? I thought he's waiting for uke? (Though he doesn't know he's a guy at first)

    Rira November 29, 2024 7:21 am
    I read some spoilers above your comment but did ml really sleep with other people? I thought he's waiting for uke? (Though he doesn't know he's a guy at first) Cher

    ML was kidnapped as a child and got forcefully guided by a male guide, this is the source of his trauma and every problem they have. It's not elaborated in the novel what exactly happened but very probably he got raped. When he met MC, he thought he is a girl and he was very enthusiastic with MC, even gentlemanly waited for "her" to be of age. During this time, I don't think he slept with anybody. When it turned out, MC is a male, he broke down and on top of that, MC forced the imprint on him without his agreement. This not only triggered his trauma but made him a ticking timebomb, an esper without proper guidance. During the years after that, he lived a very wild life, got involved with a lot of guide, trying to get the necessary guidance, overwrite the imprint, because of sexual needs and so on. In the end, he returns and tries to face MC properly but he is not too good with communication so the road for them is very bumpy.

    worrygirl November 29, 2024 6:10 pm
    ML was kidnapped as a child and got forcefully guided by a male guide, this is the source of his trauma and every problem they have. It's not elaborated in the novel what exactly happened but very probably he g... Rira

    When I read it, there were a few lines that implied MC had no control over the imprinting and it was caused by him, but accidentally.

    Rira November 29, 2024 8:40 pm
    When I read it, there were a few lines that implied MC had no control over the imprinting and it was caused by him, but accidentally. worrygirl

    Yes, it could be interpreted like that too, it happened as I understood because he was shocked by the rejection and emotionally couldn't let it go which triggered the process. By forced I meant that it happened one-sided without the consent of ML. I liked this actually, I think it's a strong point in the novel that both of them have complex situations, none of them is entirely innocent, both of them are victims, but you can relate to both of their struggles.

Rira October 13, 2024 9:32 pm

I can't get over how cute Baek Youngchan looks like, not even talking about the facial expression of the other characters, I say, this is a rare talent, to be able to draw like this.

Rira October 11, 2024 8:41 pm

The story is pretty decent, more complex than the common rebirth-revenge-romance type of stories but it has two fatal flows: 1. not enough face slapping 2. the characters (other than the ML, FL and real dad) are ugly. People tend to read these kind of stories because of the appearance of the characters, beautiful people, beautiful clothes etc and above everything else, for the revenge trope, face slapping, giving back everything tenfold as usual. Without these, it's a bit boring

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