Tappytoon has a single epilogue (Chapter 49), then a side story being released. Given their story arc has finished (and quite satisfactorily in my opinion), that's probably all we're going to get. But hopefully the creator will put out another story! Their art's come such a long way from the beginning, and they've got better storytelling chops than most.
Oh, my god, no wonder the story felt so incomplete and disjointed. Tons of the chapters are missing. I thought the pacing was just wonky.
Wait Srsly, it is?
Yeah! It's missing almost all of Cordelia and Lilly's story, as well as just random chapters. Check the chapter numbers.
Season 1 is missing Chapters 15-25 (Cordelia's story), plus three episodes of Shirley's side story. Season 2 is missing the prologue, Chapters 1-14, 18, 19, 24 and 25.
wow, i didnt even realized until now.... The story just jumped to a point I dont get things anymore
Wait...Ian was a cross-dimensional Korean high schooler and we're only finding that out through the epilogue?! That's like ninety times more interesting than anything else that happened in this comic!
Other than that, I'm actually satisfied with what's written in the epilogues. It's basically happily ever after for everyone (I'm pleasantly surprised Ryan and Noah adopt the young witch), although I would really have loved to see the twins and the way they "share" the kind man who comes to their aid.
i agree with everything you just said i was like dude you held back a golden egg from us
Does it really matter who she fucked with the dildo if most of them are instantly ready to be her sub anyway? I'm enjoying these excellent sex scenes, but I do wish there was some kind of overarching plot that mattered.
I never understood the meaning of "bedroom eyes" until I saw Taekyung.
It's the 21st century, you don't have to start dating just because you hooked up once while drunk? I mean, Taekyung threatened to have Siyeon's door removed if he tried to have too much privacy and Siyeon was just like, "Gee, what a jerk." Taekyung tries to keep him from working and doesn't let him get paid for work he's already done, and it's still just, "Gee, what a jerk." No matter what Taekyung does, Siyeon only gets mildly pissed off and then let him get away with it. It's like he has no hard boundaries at all; it's bizarre. You can say when you don't like something, dude!
And how the heck does Siyeon not have SOME kind of cover story prepared for his work? YOU WORK AS AN ASSASSIN, HOW HAS THIS NOT COME UP BEFORE? He's so bad at lying it's hard to believe he's gotten away with his job this long. He also doesn't seem to have any qualms at all about killing random strangers for work. Which would be fine if we were given some explanation or backstory to justify that, but instead it comes across as the creator forgetting that murder is kinda a big deal.
IDK, maybe this just isn't clicking for me because it's a comedy and I normally go in for drama. Right now it feels like I don't understand the characters' thought processes at all.
Yeah, no. I don't think readers in this genre think about the plot that much...
It's fiction~ ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I can still make fun of fiction for not making sense. :p
Preach, preacher!
Just imagine if it was a girl instead, I bet there would be a line of people complaining their asses off
YESS SAY IT LOUDER PLEASE! I had the same thought too! I hate how he doesn't respect Siyeon's boundaries
Funny, then. Because that would mean you don't understand things even when they've been explained to you (he DOES have a job that hides his other work AND it's been explained what kind of people he kills and how he kills them so he can't be discovered, after all). Is that related to the fact you don't see how the MC IS outlining his boundaries? It's tiresome to have people think that if they can't distort a fictional work to the point where it becomes a pure reflection of reality such that they can blame a person for 'not trying hard enough' to reject a person that only then will it become a 20th century work. When, actually, it's their own ideas that are outdated.
Still poorly made fiction, tbh the plot could've been so much better had the author put in a lil' more effort in it
The creator's done a couple of cool things here, like show how stereotypes affect A/B/O dynamics and how Doyun both subverts and looks down on all of that. I like that the omegas aren't totally desperate when they're in heat, too (more like snuggly), and how the alphas can apparently still keep their wits about them and not pounce on anyone who goes into heat nearby. It makes things feel a LOT more consensual than omegaverse usually is, although I like the more dramatic version too sometimes.
It's also good that apparently omegas aren't discriminated like in most ABO (given her mom wanted one as if it was like just wanting to have a boy or a girl). MC's dad, being an alpha, also looks super kind. Oh, also it seems that they can work as whatever they want.
I'm so glad he and Jinju became friends! That was super cute.
But just browsing the comments, is there a particular reason why people don't think Nayeon and Dohye can BOTH be with Noah in the present? Nayeon and Noah love each other, but it's been clear for some time that their relationship is open and that they want whatever makes the other person happy. Polyamory isn't hard for me to imagine.
Well, I respect open relationships. However, I don’t think Nayeon is right for Noah. He’s being horribly abused, and Nayeon could not care less. He tells her sex is filthy and that he is dirty, but this does not make her question herself. She continues to sleep with him, even though she knows he thinks these things about himself. Throughout the story, Nayeon is so selfish: her main concern is her own (sexual) needs, and Noah comes secondary. She has in no way tried to help him, and furthermore, right after he’s been abused, Nayeon often notices something is wrong, but she still continues doing sexual things with him. It’s uncomfortable and wrong. That’s NOT have you deal with someone who is being abused.
Also, we need to think about what type of person Noah said he could love forever: “Someone who only have eyes for him and will always be by his side.” Does that seem like Nayeon and Noah’s relationship to you? I honestly think the only reason he is with her is because she looks like his mother, or because the mangaka has spent so much time setting them up, she doesn’t have a choice but to have them be together, despite the fact that their relationship is inferior to Dohye and Noah’s relationship.
Why do I think this? It’s not because I like gay romance, but rather because Dohye and Noah actually had a lot of chemistry and cared about each other. Nayeon and Noah had no proper buildup, except sex, while Dohye and Noah spent time together and got to know each other. Their relationship was not based purely on sexual desires. Furthermore, Dohye was patient and kind with Noah, comforted him and supported him—things I think Nayeon never did, at least not properly. Dohye even said he wanted to marry Noah, and before their fallout, Dohye was prepared to love Noah his whole life.
No matter how I think about it, I don’t feel like Nayeon deserves Noah. If Dohye and Nayeon’s roles had been reversed, and Dohye found out Noah was abused, he would have been way more considerate and kind than Nayeon ever was, evidenced by how he acted in the side stories (and in them he didn’t even know Noah was abused). I think Dohye would make Noah truly happy, but of course, since the mangaka has invested so much in Nayeon, I think she and Noah will be together (despite the fact that Dohye and Noah had better relationship development). Despite the fact that Nayeon and Noah doesn’t really make any sense, since they barely know each other except in a sexual context.
I agree with you wholeheartedly (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Oh that sign of times with people wanting to normalize everything just because...
I don't think a polygamous relationship can work out in general even more so with mentally unhealthy and broken people like Noah mostly but Nayeon too.
She is a nymphomaniac who doesn't love Noah and Noah doesn't love her either.
And honestly after all Noah has been threw he only needs one person in my opinion or just to be single for a while and figure things out and heal before he can be in an actual relationshiprelationship...
I totally agree with thisss. You are so cool summing it up~
It's not about being gay or not, but Dohye totally gives all his care to Noah (*•ᴗ•*)و
damn you said it better then I ever could!!! I fully agree with you!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
I don't think Noah *wants* Nayeon to get too involved with his past—she's offered to talk about it with him a few times, like in Chapter 36, and he always said he didn't want to. That's around the same time they had the conversation about Noah being "dirty," where she responded by hugging him and saying she didn't care what kinds of "dirty" things he's done in the past.
When Dohye tries to tell Nayeon about Noah's abuse for the first time in Chapter 46, she angrily tells him that he shouldn't reveal something like that without Noah's consent, then says she's not going to pry into Noah's past because she "just wants to give him one place where he feels safe." I don't know if that's the RIGHT choice, but I don't think it's selfish either. She's giving him a place where he *doesn't* have to talk or think about all the bad shit that's happening to him.
I feel like the people who get upset that Nayeon and Noah have a lot of sex are ignoring the fact that Noah chooses that for himself. He instigates things just as often as her. It's kind of like saying he's not allowed sexual agency because he's been abused? Victims respond to abuse in all sorts of ways; Noah has sex with people he cares about to make himself feel less dirty. That's his way of coping.
(All that being said, while I support the relationship between Noah and Nayeon, I do wish Nayeon had more of a personality. It's refreshing that she openly enjoys sex and is relatively assertive, but she doesn't seem to have any hobbies, interests, or friends outside of Pea-Puff. Please, author, give her something to think about besides sex and Noah.)
you choose to see it that way, and I see it has "she dosn't really care about who he is or his past for that matter" like if you with someone you trully love and care about, yeas you would care about their past.
you know what I get upset with? I get upset they were "going out" and they never show they care about each other or had any chemistry or better yet they both don't really care the other will cheat on the other cause AGAIN they don't care enough or feel they want to be only with each other. yeas it is annoying and don't really show me they really care who they have sex with.
they feel a lot more like SEX FRIENDS. now I don't hate or aganist having a sex friend, but at least they should admit that and not pretend like they have something "romantic" they don't have.
Yeah, Nayeon says quite openly she doesn't mind who's having sex with who, as long as she knows she's still important to Noah and he's still important to her. Neither of them ever bothers to hide that they're still sleeping with other people, they just...snuggle and talk it out and say it's fine as long as it's what the other person wants.
Noah's had sex forced on him all his life and generally it's a negative experience he has to dissociate from. Meanwhile, Nayeon's an exhibitionist who goes to sex clubs for kicks. It makes sense that neither of them sees sex as some inherently meaningful, romantic act. To be honest, I'm so sick of angst, cheating and jealousy in other stories that it's nice for me to see two characters who just...don't care, and don't let it affect their relationship.
You don't have to want your partner to be monogamous to love them, or vice versa. That's exactly what an open relationship is. (Or a polyamorous one, for that matter, which was the point of my post in the first place...) I don't think romance equals sexual monogamy, so I actually relate somewhat to certain aspects of Nayeon and Noah's relationship. But I can easily see why people who do think that, or at least strongly prefer monogamy themselves, don't like this webtoon much.
then I"m not beliveing in monogamous without jealousy! there is no way you love someone and won't get jealous when he have sex with someone else! you can watch couple's that talk about monogamous that admit THEY DO GET JEALOUS! so yeas it is bullshit. and show they don't love each other, they friends. not more then that.
has for open relationship , again it's called "sex friends" look it up. and they don't have to be in romantic relationship like this bullshit story try to shove into this!
I've known people in happy open relationships. It's not the same thing as sex friends, whatever people might think. And I'm going to leave it at that.
I reread the comic on Lezhin, and I've actually got a different impression of the characters now. Please note that I'm not trying to fan any shipping wars here, just figuring out where all the characters are coming from and how the story might play out.
Joowon is immature but fairly sincere in his dealings with Haesoo, I think—he's pushy and he's used to Haesoo putting him first, like a child, but it's also clear he cares about him. I don't think he was faking how happy he was to be with Haesoo, even though Haesoo tends to see that cheerfulness as Joowon not taking anything seriously. See: Joowon getting all excited to buy Haesoo the diamond ring, a traditional romantic symbol.
It actually looks like Haesoo's been the one enforcing the distance in their relationship without realizing it. Joowon seems like he's maintained their current relationship because he doesn't want to scare Haesoo off, particularly after what happened with their parents, but at the same token he hasn't given enough thought as to how worn-down Haesoo is from playing their game of cat and mouse. If Haesoo made it clear he wanted an official relationship, I think Joowon would be overjoyed and accept it. But instead they keep circling around each other, because neither's willing to make the first move and "lose" by admitting how much they care in case they get rejected. (Also TBH, I think they both assumed that their relationship would never change. It has "no beginning and no end," as Joowon put it, which Haesoo actually finds reassuring.)
Their relationship's finally being forced to evolve because Haesoo's formed a genuine emotional attachment to another guy for the first time. Joowon never cared about the other guys because Haesoo only uses them to make him jealous and was never serious about them anyways. Now Haesoo's met Taekyung. Joowon's confused that Haesoo's rejection of his advances is more than superficial now, and he's starting to lash out because of it. It'll be interesting to see if Taekyung brings them closer together by forcing them to be honest, or breaks things irreparably.
Taku's blunt and upfront in a way that makes him a lot of fun to read about. He knows how to be gentle and how to care about people, and so far at least, he's offered unconditional emotional comfort to Haesoo (right down to telling him it's fine to be "used"). I'm not totally sold on the fact that he cares about Haesoo in a serious romantic way, or at least not in a way that would register as romantic to other people. There's that scene where he's talking to his friend and says he doesn't see the difference between a photography subject and a romantic attachment. That implies he keeps a certain level of distance from the people he dates, emotionally.
He didn't set up the second meeting with Haesoo, or say he was *interested* in Haesoo, until he found out Haesoo was Jooson's brother from the photo Leo showed him. Often when he says he's "found something interesting" in Korea, it shows that specific picture. I've been wondering why. Is it just that Haesoo's vulnerability in the column made Taekyung sympathize and fall for him?
There's also been the repeated theme of Taekyung seeing the people he dates as "candy"—specifically cheap, artificially-flavoured, interchangeable candy, which implies something shallow and briefly pleasurable. After he and Haesoo have sex the first time, he opens a drawer of candy to take a lollipop out. Instead of savouring it, he crushes it between his teeth and it shows the empty wrapper and bent stick. Are we supposed to see that as him "devouring" Haesoo? Even in the most recent chapters, when they kiss Haesoo notes that it tastes like candy.
I'm worried this means that Taekyung's gentleness and support are fake in some way, although it would be nice if I'm misreading things. It IS possible that Haesoo might be an exception to Taekyung's view on dating—a few characters have commented that Taekyung's behaving unusually in regards to Haesoo, and we do see some signs of traditional jealousy and romantic interest when they're having sex. Guess we'll have to wait and see!
Based on the upcoming chapters, I disagree with a few things (without spoiling ot for youl Jowoon is happy with how things are currently, not really established a true relationship with Heasoo. He doesn't want to change or admit anything. Also, the ring isn't a romantic symbol as you think (not going to go into detail but even the author discusses this in the epilogue of the season finale). Also, I believe that Taku is actually falling for Heasoo for real. Based on not actually being in love before and not truly understanding his feelings. For example when he says he doesn't see the difference between a artistic subject and pursing someone romantically. He's never been in love or in a deep relationship with anyone and one of the reasons why will be explain in chapter 38. If it does turn out that he was just using Heasoo, than I wouldn't be super surprised but I like to give characters the benefit of the doubt.
I agree with you on somethings and differ on others. Here me out. ^_^
Agree
- Joowon cares about Haesoo
- He is not faking how happy he is with Haesoo
- Joowon is immature
- Damn right. He has hasnt given enough thought to how worn down Haesoo is because of this thing he started. I don't think he is completely unaware of it though.
- Taku is upfront and blunt
- Taku knows how to be gentle and how to care for people
- He does not care for Haesoo in a serious romantic way.YET. But he did tell Haesoo that he likes him, no? Love at first sight or falling in love as soon as they have sex is not exactly realistic is it?
- yes, he does not seem to understand the difference between a photography subject and romantic Interest. Why? He has never been in love. He tells Haesoo in the coming chapters that he has never been hurt by someone.
- it is possible Haesoo is an exception to Taku's view on dating.
Disagree
- Of course Haesoo see's his cheerfulness as him not taking anything seriously. damn it. It was who Joowon down right told him not to fall for him, because he won't. isnt that him basically saying he isnt serious about them?
- Joowon will come see Haesoo whenever he feels like it, out of nowhere. He expects Haesoo to be there for him always, but this is toxic as af don't you think? Haesoo WANTS TO DISTANCE himself from Joowon, he has been determined to do it. he wants to put an end to it. He isnt doing it without REALIZING it.
- Haesoo finds nothing reassuring about their relationship which has no beginning or no end. It has confused and traumatized him.
- Their RELATIONSHIP has not been forced to evolve because of Taku. BUT for sure it is doing good to HAESOO. Joowon realizes something is off, but he hasn't done anything about it as of season 1.
- He was interested in Haesoo from the VERY BEGINNING. AT FIRST SIGHT. His first encounter with Haesoo was at a bookstore in Seoul. His face stood out to him. He could SEE it. ( Taku has face blindness. He tells this to Haesoo in upcoming chapters) It wasn't Haesoo's relationship with Joowon that piqued his interest in Haesoo. It is the other way round. He was Intrigued by haesoom so he wanted to find more about this person. That is how it started.
- As for Taku's analogy comparing the people he has dated to candy, i think that it means he just hasn't met someone special.
I completely agree on everything you said about Joowon! Taku makes me swoon and I like him a lot so far but I can’t ignore the history Joowon has with Haesoo and act like that’s so easy to walk away from. Joowon has a lot of faults but Haesoo also has been playing the emotional manipulation game, they both do. They’ve been dealing with each other for almost a decade. And I find it interesting that we haven’t seen Joowon with anyone else intimately and we’re 38 chapters in.
I completely agree on everything you said about Joowon! Taku makes me swoon and I like him a lot so far but I can’t ignore the history Joowon has with Haesoo and act like that’s so easy to walk away from. Joowon has a lot of faults but Haesoo also has been playing the emotional manipulation game, they both do. They’ve been dealing with each other for almost a decade. And I find it interesting that we haven’t seen Joowon with anyone else intimately and we’re 38 chapters in. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Hey, thanks for your thoughts! Wanted to respond to a couple of specific points.
"It was who Joowon down right told him not to fall for him, because he won't. isnt that him basically saying he isnt serious about them?"
If I recall correctly, Joowon looked slightly pained while saying it. As far as I can tell, they both have a sort of unspoken rule where they never admit to caring about each other, which again, I think is because Joowon's worried that trying to tie Haesoo down will make him run away (plus Haesoo originally encouraged Joowon not to admit how strongly he feels, e.g. by deliberately making Joowon angry and jealous when they were kids.)
It's also clear Haesoo was really traumatized by his mother's reaction to the two of them. That's when we see Joowon say they aren't in a relationship, perhaps for the first time. Based on the desperate look on Joowon's face and the way he was trying to deescalate the situation, I think he was lying about how important Haesoo is to him. But those words might have solidified the idea in Haesoo's mind that Joowon doesn't think much of him.
"Joowon will come see Haesoo whenever he feels like it, out of nowhere...He isnt doing it without REALIZING it."
Joowon expecting to be prioritized is what I meant by him being immature! I disagree that he knew that Haesoo legit wanted distance, though, or how upset Haesoo was in general. Again, the two of them have never been honest with how much they care about each other, that's their game. So when Haesoo says "leave me alone," Joowon assumes he's just playing hard to get.
"Haesoo finds nothing reassuring about their relationship which has no beginning or no end. It has confused and traumatized him."
Again, I disagree! See Chapter 35, where Haesoo reflects on Joowon telling him that, and says he "decided to believe him" because he was anxious. To me, that implies he found the thought comforting, perhaps because he'd find it too hard to trust a relationship that could end. Haesoo's VERY cautious about being hurt by other people.
I agree with you re: Taekyung now that I've read Chapter 38, by the way! His face blindness gives a clear reason for his budding interest in Haesoo. We'll see where the candy thing goes. It's been such a recurring idea that it must mean something; most optimistically, it might be the narrative's way of showing Taku's evolution into a person who can love. I do think he LIKES Haesoo and I don't believe he's deliberately manipulating him.
I'm 100% convinced at this point that Joowon's got no interest in anyone but Haesoo. I don't think he even likes people that much in general, really—he clearly hates the social aspect of being a celebrity.
I think if he were dating someone he'd rub it in Haesoo's face to make him jealous. The closest we've seen to him being with anyone else is when he told his dad "I meet lots of girls!" and then not-so-subtly glanced at Haesoo to see if he reacted, LMAO.
This is kind of a spoiler, but in Q&A at the end of the season 1, this is what author said about Joowon dating other people..
"Q: I'm curious about whether Joowon had any past relationships before this.
A: It seems as though it wasn't reflected well in the webtoon, but Joowon has dated a lot of people. Haesoo tends not to hide his relationships from Joowon, while Joowon tends not to talk about them.
In the beginning, it can be seen that both of them talk about Haesoo's relationships comfortably, and they talk about everyday affairs too.''
@lazulations on instagram translated it from Korean..
Aw, there goes that theory. Thanks for sharing! Funny, I really thought he showed no interest in much of anything else, but maybe that's because we haven't seen much of his interactions with people aside from his manager.