LIKE FINALLY IT TOOK US 60 CHAPTERS FOR THEM TO KISS FHFHRHWJDDJJ AND NOW ITS END OF THE SEASON IM DYING
gonna drop this until she comes back to the duke, i feel very anxious for some reason because I’m left with unanswered questions
Who is the mysterious lady in that bath tub? Is it like the mage's lover ( princess and the mage's student years ago ) the one who was not allowed to wed the mage? or the princess who's desperate for Kael, the crown prince?
Wait I thought she died Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
I think she might be another character we'll get to know soon. Someone who probably wants to resurrect the demon king? I assume their "master" is the demon King, but I might be wrong.
its getting so weird and confusing i’m dropping this kudos to anyone who continues reading it tho
Duke ( Rudiger Winterwald ) = Our ML in this manhwa
Aunt ( Judith Maybaum ) = a side character in the novel, Luca’s blood related aunt
and our FL in this manhwa
Luca = The ML of the NOVEL, our FL, the aunt transmigrated to.
Jonas = Luca’s biological father and the blond “brother” of Duke Rudiger.
Duke = I forgot his name but he’s the current Duke of Winterwald
Duchess Sophie = a loyal maid of Princess Vanessa, The Duke’s Wife and first love.
Princess Vanessa = Jonas’ biological mother, the former king’s daughter
Franz = antagonist of the novel, wants to take over the Winterwalds’ duchy / land
> Luca did really go back in time. The cup that grants wishes mentioned previously is what he used in his past. “ I wish everyone would gain happiness “ but instead it turned back time. The reason that this time Luca brought his Aunt Judith with him is because she secretly gave Luca a portrait of Luca’s biological mother.
> The sole reason that Luca’s aunt is mean to him is because Luca resembles his father. Judith did not hold any grudge against her sister. This is because Judith thinks that the reason her sister died is because of her shitty husband, Jonas. And Luca who looks like Jonas, fueled her abuse. Judith’s hate towards Luca vanished and transferred to Duke Rudiger/ the Winterwalds after Luca was taken away from her. ( This is because she realized I guess that Luca didn’t do anything )
> The reason Duke Rudiger was dead is because of both Judith and Franz. Judith tried to gain help from Franz not knowing that Franz wants to takeover the Winterwalds’ duchy. He was unable to kill Luca since Judith wanted Luca alive in the first place and this is also when Luca knew his aunt had genuinely cared for him secretly.
> The current Duke of the Winterwald ( not Rudiger ) is already aware right from the beginning that Luca is not blood-related. So is Luca’s father, Jonas. The duke does not care who becomes the heir to his duchy.
> Judith is the grand daughter of Greta or Margaret ( the former king’s sister ). Greta eloped with a commoner since he was handsome ( no fr its true ). This is why the former king became overprotective of Vanessa, who was Greta’s sister, because the former king thinks Vanessa will also end up like Greta. And she did “end up” like Greta because the former king was borderline overprotective. Greta eloped with the duke ( The Winterwald’s current Duke ) not because Greta loved him but it was the only way to escape from the King’s clutches since the Duke loved Greta’s maid named Sophie. Sophie is the current duchess of the Winterwald.
> Vanessa was very promiscuous and would sleep around until she got pregnant. Assuming it was one-night-stand, she was not able to know who the father of her child. When she gave birth to Jonas, she regretfully died. And that is why Jonas ended up with the Duke and Rudiger at the same time as “brothers”. In short an illegitimate son.
> The reason why Duchess Sophie doted on Jonas so much and less on Duke Rudiger is because Jonas looks so much like Vanessa. And Sophie who was very loyal to Princess Vanessa is the main reason why she doted on Jonas a lot.
> The duke murdered Jonas. Although, he didn’t care who his heir was, as long as the heir was fit to rule, he didn’t matter if he was blood related or not. But Jonas did not fit that double standard. This is because Jonas was in short an asshole and a spoiled brat. He did not want to be a king in order to lead but for the benefits of it. ( e.g. living lavishly, treasure and other selfish things ) Jonas even wants to genuinely murder and kill Sophie, the duchess and thinks that she is an ‘eyesore’. The duke knew that Jonas would use the cup for his wish to become king.
> If you have any questions feel free to reply to this comment. I’ll try!
Damn thats alot to digest!
I TRIED TO DO IT IN ORDER FOR YALLS TO UNDERSTAND A BIT but if you get boggled, I’ll try to answer your questions !
uhm is rdiger just obsessed with the mc for other reasons or does he genuinely like her? if so what what is it, cause he's kinda sus even if he's the ml
Yes i wanna know too
Just like I previously mentioned. Duchess Sophie, his mother doted on Jonas more than Rudiger. That is why he's incapable of realizing the true meaning of his emotions. In short, lack of affection so that's why he's so weird around the MC. Since he can't properly display the right kind of emotions. He genuinely likes her at the beginning but does not realize it until later when Judith our MC will help him.
oh my god thanks a lottttt
No u explained really well , i just didn’t expect the story to have such a plot , thanks alot
poor rudiger even though he was the legitimate heir he wasn't even treated as one. I feel like the duke should've just gotten some therapy done for both of his wives and himself so shit wouldn't have gotten so messed up
thank you !! I guess he's the typical lead for this kind of plots but love him nonetheless, he deserves the world uwu
ure wc!!! Most leads who follow the trend have reasons that are kept under the dark. I think Rudy is kind of unique and the reason gives him depth too. Huhu he deffo deserves the world, after all that bad childhood experience.
I don't think that current duke is the father of jonas father he was adopted after he found out about that he tried to kill the current duchess and the duke killed him because of that
... so jonas fucked his cousin?
Oh my..... Now that I think about it yes
..yes.
Just realized Lucas is of (incestuous) royal blood..
Sooo one question: Judith and her sister are really sister or no? Because if not, here we don't have incest right?
Both of Lucas's grandmothers were sisters, royal princesses. Which means that Judith and her sister, Lucas's mom, were cousins to Lucas's dad, Jonas. So, yes. Incest.
I’m sorry your grammar was very confusing so I couldn’t make up of it but I tried understanding it nonetheless. You’re saying that I stated that the current duke is the father of Jonas’ father ( what???? ) and that ( who??? which?? ) was adopted after he found out that he tried to kill the current duchess and the duke killed him because of that… ( that’s what I could make out of it .. )
First, please re-read my statements ! I did not state anything that Jonas was a legitimate son of the current Duke of Winterwald. He is in fact, adopted. Jonas’ father is unknown and Jonas is a result of a one-night-stand. The current Duke of Winterwald did kill Jonas because killing the Duchess was one of the reasons.
Without knowing they were related? HAHAHAH yepppp. Plus, even if he knew they were cousins, it wouldn’t stop because of his foul personality
Judith and her sister, Larisa ( also the wife of Jonas ) are blood related siblings! The only incestuous relationship that is present in this manhwa is Jonas and Larisa since they are blood related cousins. Both of which have royal blood.
My brain's trying to comprehend this bits by bits but damnn thank you for this
Did the novel specified of Sophia was romantically in loved with the princess(Jonas' mother)? She kinds sus honestly. And was the current duke's(Ruediger's father) wish related to Sophia? Cuz I feel like it is
A lot if royalty practices incest. To keep the bloodline pure or some nonsense
Yup, it’s very much interesting to see modern studies of the habsburg dynasty ss they are quoted as example of the incredible damage of consanguinity !! « pure bloodline « has nevertheless been in Mother Nature agenda ! (Humans can be sooo stupid)
Damn I've been reading this for seconds and I realize that I didn't remember their names btw thankyou for this info. may God bless you
I edited the comment so that no one would be confused and somehow it erased the comments???? But I did take a glimpse of someone asking me if Sophie was romantically involved with Vanessa. As far as I know, Sophie was very loyal to her since Sophie was Vanessa's closest friend and maid. I don't really know her true feelings or whatnot since it was kind of vague. They shared each other's secrets and everything that they felt. Duchess Sophie is actually very fond of our MC, Judith. Since Judith is royal blood and she has violet eyes like Vanessa. Vanessa a long time ago told Sophie that "Take care of anyone with Violet eyes because they will encounter a problem caused by me".
AH HERE IT IS copy pasting my reply anw. As far as I know, Sophie was very loyal to her since Sophie was Vanessa's closest friend and maid. I don't really know her true feelings or whatnot since it was kind of vague. They shared each other's secrets and everything that they felt. Duchess Sophie is actually very fond of our MC, Judith. Since Judith is royal blood and she has violet eyes like Vanessa. Vanessa a long time ago told Sophie that "Take care of anyone with Violet eyes because they will encounter a problem caused by me".
Actually no Winterwald has ever used the cup to make a wish. The cup itself is only "passed down" through generations. Only those of *royal blood* can make a wish using it. Hence, why Luca was able to make his wish. The cup was given to the Winterwalds in order for them to protect it from anyone who wants to quench their greed. The Winterwalds are specifically tasked to keep it away from the royal family.
Who's the father of jonas?
BTW I forgot to mention that in the original timeline of the novel before our MC transmigrated. Duker Rudiger's mom, Sophie dies because of anxiety/ trauma/ depression or in short mental illness ever since she found out that Duke Rudiger died. Even though she didn't make an effort in Rudy's upbringing I guess she still loved him secretly.
He isn't mentioned. He's an unknown person. Princess Vanessa after escaping the royal family, became wild/promiscuous. Thus, Jonas is a result of princess vanessa's countless one-night-stands.
So sorry i confused jonas i thought he was the little kid's name ah i'm such an idiot i'm so sorry （/TДT)/
Awh no its okay!!
Thank you so much for explaining >///<
But... Would you mind sharing the link to the novel?
Thank you so much for putting the effort to write this~ Do you by any chance have the link to the novel?
Oh! Thank you so much for your explanation! ┗( T﹏T )┛
So at the end of the day Luca is the heir right?
Hello! Just to vaguely explain I am half korean so when I red the novel, it was in korean. I do not have the novel itself with the eng. translation but if you search it up you can see the novel in eng but not in full. This is because the author has threaten to sue anyone who distributes / translates their novel without consent / legal partnership ! My notes listed here are from months back ~ Awfully sorry maybe if you scroll past some more, you may find it ?
Technically, yes. But at the end of the novel, he decides to take off his name from the Winterwald’s family registry. Duke Rudiger ends up being the heir to the Winterwald Duchy. As for Luca, we do not know. If I recall correctly he wants to live peacefully!
https://page.kakao.com/home/%EC%9E%A5%EB%A5%B4%EB%A5%BC-%EB%B0%94%EA%BF%94%EB%B3%B4%EB%8F%84%EB%A1%9D-%ED%95%98%EA%B2%A0%EC%8A%B5%EB%8B%88%EB%8B%A4/51978137
^^^ I read here ~ Though, it is in full korean. I dont know any eng translation
Ok I kind of had a feeling since the translated version only went up to the point where the Luca is trying to convince the aunt to go with him. Guess there’s only one solution then… imma learn Korean >~< Alright thank you though!
Hello! Thank you for the Spoilers :)
Just one question..
Since Judith our FL has royal blood.. and Rudiger our ML who she is not blood related to her at all.. got together?
And also since the condition to be able to inherit the duchy... is to marry a royalty.. then if ML(who is literally the true blood related heir of the current duke) CAN inherit the duchy if he marries Judith and then she becomes the duchess...
Hope they inherit the duchy since our ML very much deserves it.（/TДT)/
Hm, I'm guessing she would need to regain her status as a member of the royal family but ultimately, as the daughter of a princess.. yes.
ohh got it, tysmm for explaining and one more thing, luca still lives with them tho right? after taking his name off the registry
Yes they can get together! ( Their marriage was approved by the royal family ) It was originally going to Duke Rudiger in the first place anyway. The only reason why Jonas ( Lucas’ biological father ) and Lucas was given a chance to inherit the duchy was for the sake of Duchess’ Loyalty towards Princess Vanessa ( Jonas’ biological mother ). Hmmmm, I’m not sure if they had that certain criteria. I have a bad memory but If I can recall correctly as long as you have the Winterwald blood or first in line as an heir, you can still inherit the duchy. The only thing about the royal blood is if you have royal blood you can unleash/ make a wish with the goblet.
Hahahaha dont worry, our ML after the wedding. Inherits the duchy and becomes the duchess :)
The novel did not have any specific explanation for it if I’m correct, if he has taken off his name from the family registry, it’s quite possible he’d venture outside of the duchy. I mean he’s already grown at this point but it is also possible that he still stays at the duchy but refuses to the be the heir of winterwald since he has shown interest in our FL’s future of having a child.
aww that's so nice of luca and thank you for spoiling all of this
Ruediger and the FL are not blood related. Ruediger and Jonas are not bloodrelated also.
I didn’t state any of these information backwards. In the first part I’ve put quotation marks to indicate that Jonas might not be the brother of Ruidger hence the marks. And if you analyze my notes, it’s plausible to rule out that the FL and ML are not blood related.