A lot of yaoi miss this: actual talk! Communication. Clearly telling what you’re feeling. Explaining your reasoning and actions… I loved this chapter.
I can’t believe that I avoided reading this treasure.
I judged a book by its cover and I shouldn’t have. I thought that in the cover they had (from the look) a big age gap and the uke seemed to be drawn like a kid. (Unfortunately that are so many bl like that)
But recently I came back here and read some comments and decided to give it a try.
Omg this is amazing. The cover does NOT translate the real art style. In the manga, they look different sure, but close in age. I was soooo wrong.
This is just… beautiful.
So so so lovely. Amazing!
Im not gonna say anything else about it because I don’t wanna spoil anything for anyone because this is fantastic.
Wdy the over is literally breathtaking
Omg. This is full of green flags. Honest and caring communication. Foreplay with time and care, while still having a good time. Laughing and being intimate. This is what developing a great relationship looks like.
Im on the edge of my seat. Beautiful! I feel like a little girl giggling at everything sweet they do (▰˘◡˘▰)
Goddamnit, everyone’s so good looking (╯°Д °)╯╧╧. Being bi is tough!
Literal bi-panic reading this
I love Hyowon. He’s so cool. Determined, strong, intelligent and not afraid to be honest and vulnerable. He’s awesome. Love to see a uke like this, to go against the stupid stereotypes…
Those hands… those kisses… wow. See? It’s so sexy and cute and exciting…
why would other authors think sexual assault is better than this? (〜￣△￣)〜
authors just think different things are hot lmao. it's fiction, let them write whatever they want.
I’m not against them writing whatever they want, they’re free to do so. But I’m also free to criticize it. Specially when they portray abuse as something normal or “couple goals”.
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy a horror/psychological bl too. I just don’t like when they make brush off abuse because the seme is hot (〜￣△￣)〜
oh yeah definitely. i criticize them too and i have a bone to pick with works like jinx. but one thing to keep in mind is that authors don't "brush off" abuse, they just put it in because they like writing about it. it would be brushing off if the work and its themes are meant to be taken seriously, that's when authors have to be mindful of how they handle sensitive subjects. but porn is just porn. i love that the discussion of prevalent abuse is in fiction is being had these days. but kinks and everything else you like in fiction are morally neutral, and the author doesn't have to teach intro to healthy relationships 101 whenever they write porn.
I can see where you’re coming from, and somewhat agree with you.
There’s all kinds of kinks and works reflect that. And that’s totally fine.
Unfortunately a lot of them aren’t just that. And let’s not forget, BL is a romance genre, not exactly porn. BL is meant to portray a gay romance. Yes, the authors dont have to teach about healthy relationships, but they shouldn’t portray an unhealthy one like a healthy one - that’s my main issue.
They can portray whatever they want, just treat it and call it what it is. There’s a lot of works that do so and are awesome. Because in reality relationships aren’t perfect either.
But normalization of violence/abuse isn’t good in any way. When they don’t treat things as they should, they normalize those behaviors.
For example: bdsm - might have violence (even a rape kink) - but if there’s consent from both parties, it’s awesome and there’s good BL about it. But then you have other BLs where there’s no consent and violence and they use bdsm as an excuse for that behavior (clearly not understanding the concept of bdsm in the first place anyway) - for someone with some experience might be easy to detect the difference but for young people might not, leaving an erroneous idea on them.
Also, from what I’ve seen, when authors like to write about abuse, they do it well. They do their research on it. They don’t just go and make a rapey BL. There’s more to it, you know what I mean? In most the abuse happens just to make it edgy or out of some stupid stereotype, and then the characters fall in love like the abuse never happened. That’s what I mean by brushed off.
Sorry for the long message (⌒▽⌒)
don't be sorry!! i get what you mean and i agree. the abuse i see in bl tend to occur in explicit work meant for adults who can process what they read better, which is why i don't have much of an issue with them. young people do read yaoi and are impacted by it, but imo they're not supposed to read it in the first place so whatever they get from it isn't the author's fault. it's like ignoring the R rated warning and watching saw, then wondering why you get nightmares afterwards. but i have been seeing a shift toward more realistic depictions of abuse vs healthy relationships in romance in general lately, which is great news. the toxic possessive trope is tired and needs an upgrade lmao
I’m enjoying this story so much. I like everything with the exception of the empress of course, but I must say she’s a good villain and also, something that irks me is when Rishar calls Ettiene “brother”. I know it’s because how they were brought up and all but since he clearly loves him, it annoys me. Gives me the ick ┗( T﹏T )┛
No, he doesn't call him brother brother but hyung, kinda the same as senpai. Translaors fucked it up once again and keep making readers think this is some incest type of story. They thought a LITERAL translation would be better instead of just making an exception to the word hyung.
Thank you. I feel better. If it was hyung it would fit so much better and I feel more at ease. They should do like other manhwas where “hyung, ahjussi, oppa, nona, etc” are still there and they have the explanation in the beginning of the chapter or a little side note on the panel. Even in mangas with “san, chan, etc” I prefer it. Because it changes the meaning and sounds awful - not the way the author intended (￣ε(#￣)Σ
Agree. Worst part is that these are official translations so someone is getting paid while translating it poorly imo.
Isn’t this from the author of “ Daehyun Laundry~ We wash everything” ? The art style seems the same. Or am I seeing stuffs?
It does look alike but its most likely not by the same person! ^^ The authors are different so I'd say its not :3
The author’s names are Jae and Jea - a lot of coincidence, I think someone put the name wrong, I think it’s the same xD
You are probably right but you never know lol >///< maybe the authors style improved well i dont even know ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
Even under that pressure he didn’t lie nor did he do anything to cater to their selfish wishes. He stood his ground and himself clear. He doesn’t have to out himself for that, specially for people who might not ever accept him, unfortunately.
Maybe, unfortunately grandma might not even react to another treatment, he should just trust his doctors.
And here we go again… who wants to bet he’s gonna rape doc Dan again because of a misunderstanding? (╬￣皿￣)凸