
BL/Yaoi recommendations that shows dark, ugly parts of life? Like Walk on Water (porn actors background), Saezuru (parents abuse, and how it affects their children is so much of a trigger for me) or Dark Heaven (homophobia in this one is so well shown it hurts)?

'Stigma' - everything you're looking for. Mega abuse due to trauma and the dark side of life. Mafia, drugs, etc, involved as well. I give the artwork 7/10.
'Painter of the Night' is also a good one. I think seme's got a major trauma behind him.
I don't like seemingly pointless violence and abuse in BL, so I promise, both of these have very plausible scenes and reasons for violence.

Thank you! I'm keeping up with "Painter of the Night" already, but not "Stigma". Will give it a try.
I don't like pointless violence and abuse in BL neither, but I contradictory think it's important to show the ugliness of it. It gives people a glimpse of the nightmare. And the happy endings gives me hopes for myself. The feeling grows stronger when the story gets brutal. It's what I'm looking for atm (˘◡˘)

I highly recommend this one if you haven't read it already
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/an_uncomfortable_truth/

A guy takes over his father's debts, single and raising a sibling meets an assassin/yakuza. Definitely dark throughout. http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/a_thousand_cranes/

Someone yesterday asked about unique lubes in yaoi, and now I have this manga in my head since then. It's about two boys, the manga itself is shounen ai, but it has an yaoi sequel where they finally have sex on kitchen using olive oil as lube.
I can't look at olive oil properly since yesterday. Please help me make amends with the olive oil, I'm going insane here... I want to eat my lunch but the bottle of olive oil on the counter is cursing me to death for thinking of it on such dirty terms...

Ayyyyyyy it's me who asked for that kind of question in anonymous form because i didn't trust myself in this one. Even i'm surprised it wasn't removed by the website. Omg i'm so sorry i didn't mean to make you think dirty of olive oil just because i asked something strange. Thanks though for the manga. I'm to blame ┗( T﹏T )┛

Uhm but it's my own fault for having a brain that goes ape when I can't remember something? xD I have a very, very good memory and when I can't remember something, my brain goes like that. And your post was just fine, it didn't get deleted because it was an ok request. I said before, there's no reason to delete that post :) don't worry. I didn't even tried to understand why some people got so angry with it.

I'm looking for more Yaoi/Shounen Ai with manly couples, like with muscles, beard, body hair, anything of the short. Nice, manly bodies.

i've got some recommendations. even though most of them don't have beard or body hair, they are really masculine and some of my favorites (▰˘◡˘▰)
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/romantic_box/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_man_of_tango/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/terpenoid/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/goriyou_wa_keikakutekini/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/boku_no_omawarisan/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/ookami_shounen_to_hamu_no_hito/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/from_green_kitchen/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/make_me_bark/?av=2
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/okusama_ha_alpha/
hope i've helped! (●'◡'●)ノ

Enjoy (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/468443/

I laughed like a maniac hahahahaha the "local grandma" telling me to check bara, oh my lord hahahaha! I tried bara once, but the dicks were like a godzilla attack. I guess I was just unlucky.
I'll surely give it a try again, thank you, local grandma!
You reminded me of my own grandma, who had the habit of saying every time she has troubles opening her door that "that's the only thing of your grandpa that can get hard lately".

So I'm getting my college vacations soon, and I would like to ask recommendations on good BLs to read. I've read quite a decent number of them, so I always end up on manga I already read. Any plot is fine, as long as you considers it good. Thanks in advance!

I see that you've read quite a lot, here's a list of works that I like:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/soredemo_yasashii_koi_o_suru/ <33
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/division_nishida_higashi/ (I like most of her works)
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/10_dance/ (I also like this authors works)
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/dear_green_hitomi_no_ounowa/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/koi_to_wa_yobenai/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/dog_style/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/life_senjou_no_bokura/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/sasaki_to_miyano/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/castle_mango/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/let_dai/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/akai_ito_no_shikkou_yuuyo/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/himegoto_asobi/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/he_is_beautiful/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/free_kisses/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/konomi_ja_naka_to/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/sora_to_hara/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/ze/

This has been bothering me for as long as I can remember. The men in my family is like this, I've lived in 3 different cities and all my close male friends, specially straight ones, acted like this. Males here are OBSSESSED with jokes and teases about the other guy butthole, more specifically gay sex. They never lose a chance. It doesn't even matter if the phrase is dirty, if they can fit the lime, they will. Like if one guy says "wow that hole is deep", his friend will promptly reply something like "not as deep as your hole last night". All the time. As amusing as it is for a fujoshi like me to watch, I started to wonder. Where do they get all this prompt ideas of gay sex? Is that something that happens on other countries? Or I'm just a magnet to weird males? Is it a repressed desire to eat or be eaten by other guy?
Hilariously enough, my father is, without a doubt, is the guy who is the most obsessed with gay sex jokes and teases among all men I know. When I brought this questioning to my mother she said "this is all strained desire to eat or be eaten". I laughed pretty hard at her merciless answer. I'm pretty sure my fujoshi started because of my father. (THANKS DA, BE PROUD!)

I think that phrase from your mother is correct because that is quite a rare case. Straight men aren't usually like that at ALL. all the hetero males around me usually say the word gay as an insult or if they brush each other's ass even a LITTLE BIT they'll say 'ew thats so fucking gay' I would love to see those jokes being made instead of homophobic phrases that I hear from straight males around me T>T your father seems fantastic though loll

As a gay person I get triggered when someone one makes a gay joke ngl. Not those funny comedian jokes but more of those, "ew you're so fucking gay." "ew that's gay." "wtf you act so gay." Please don't even get started with the word faggot or gayfag or homo. But I hate it when straight people keep trying to use the word gay as a joke. Okay I'm done ranting.

When I lived in the Midwest, the boys did that and said “no homo” afterwards. The girls also said similar things to each other. Like, “Honey, that skirt is too short I’m distracted,” or “Um, are you showing shoulders because Imma stare at you all day.”
Then I moved to where I currently live (California) and they say “gay” as an insult.
In all honesty, I thought California would be more liberal than the conservative Midwest. Who knew? ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

You got it wrong. They don't joke about gay people, they joke about having gay sex. Nothing about gay people, they just imply that they ate their friends butthole. Like my father had to operate his hemorrhoid, and people must have spent a month writing down ideas because whatsapp was intense that day. Things like "are you reforming the rear to take in one more guest?" Or "broke down before expiration day due excessive usage", nothing about gay people, but about having anal sex.

Hahaha we never say no homo! As for girls, we are pretty honest to each other, like "same you're hot, I might even fall for you". My country is huge so I'm not sure if that happens only on this state or all around, but my sister's boyfriend even says "I'd turn gay for that guy" when he wants to say the guy looks good.

Although my sister's boyfriend is an oddball. Most of them joke around taking each other's ass all day long (father is specially persistent, he's like a kid who just found out what anal means), but they won't say the word gay unless asked. Then they'll claim hate guys. I did tell them once that they sounded more like gays than my gay friends. They surely do think about other guys butthole way more than open gays. I really don't understand them.

Haha don't worry, I don't like when they talk about gays like that neither. I can't even call that jokes. Sadly, thanks to our """"""dearest President"""""" who is super homophobic those jokes are coming back to life. No matter how much they joke about gay sex, we still hold the higher number of homicides of lgbt people. But in my family it is not accepted. Unless you want to be tongueleashed by all sides until they break down crying for mercy, if they have homophobic opinions they know they better keep it to themselves.

I'm gay too and my advice is that you should try to own it (for your own good, gay insults are not worth your energy and mental well-being)
When they say "ew that's so gay" just reply with hell yes or you got it
Sometimes that even stops them from saying that in the future, so who knows? Try it sometime, if you'd like :)
Good luck
Happy new year everyone
Happy new year to you too! ♡´・ᴗ・`♡