otakulys July 8, 2024 10:28 am

I'm legitimately confused by the way so many people are responding to the raws in the comments. Did people just block season two out of their heads?

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This isn't the first time Seongrok has raped Jeoh. Right after Jeoh was attacked by a different rapist, Seongrok assaults him in the car, while Jeoh screams for him to stop. He says, "Do I look like I'm in the mood to fuck?" and he fights while it's happening. He says that it hurts and he asks him, "Why are you doing this?" He tells him to stop again, and Seongrok coldly says, "No," and proceeds to keep going. Then it never came up again. It was like it never happened.

I'm not surprised at all that the artist is bringing it back, but the fact that no one is referencing the first SA between the leads is really weird to me. I stopped reading for a long time because of that scene. Seongrok was the only one who ever treated Jeoh as human, not as an object. He didn't just see him as something to use. Then the author undid all of it with that scene in the car. And it was clearly just for her own kink, as it never came up again.

I'm honestly willing to bet that even the second time won't really be addressed either. Maybe Seongrok's jealousy, but this just seems to be an ongoing thing. I really, really hate how common it is to have SA between the main couple. Why do people want that between two people who are supposed to love one another? Clearly there are millions of people lining up to assault Jeoh, so why does it have to be the one person he trusted?

The author lost me with that scene, but after a long while, I came back, hoping it got better. But it looks like it's just more of the same. I was just shocked no one else was bringing it up, so I started to think I was going crazy. But nope, the scene is there. Chapter 33. I'm guessing people think it's fine because he stopped resisting and eventually seemed to physically enjoy it, but that's not how assault works.

    mary July 9, 2024 4:33 am

    Yeah I definitely agree, and I thought of that scene too with this recent chapter. When I first read and reread this manhwa, that scene in the car is so difficult to get through.

    it’s definitely possibles others have forgotten about it, and also possible they didn’t register it as SA(which of course isn’t great, but unfortunately wouldn’t suprise be).
    Dubious consent is so normalized in BL that a lot of readers barely react to it. I think it’s why ppl might not react to scenes if the mc “gives in”. Specifically in this manhwa, other than the car scene, there were smut scenes that made me uncomfortable.

    I’m not sure if you’ve read the raws, but this scene felt way worse than the car scene. As in je-ohs reactions and face. I am not rereading the other chapter, but in the recent raws we see je-oh crying, and the entire time he is telling seong-rok to stop. I’m not saying this means the car scene wasn’t bad, just that I understand why readers are reacting like this. Even using BL logic (which normalizes SA), it’s difficult to excuse what seong-rok did

    I just feel bad for je-oh, the author keeps making him suffer

    otakulys July 10, 2024 7:48 am
    Yeah I definitely agree, and I thought of that scene too with this recent chapter. When I first read and reread this manhwa, that scene in the car is so difficult to get through.it’s definitely possibles othe... mary

    Yeah, I figure that's what's happening for the most part, that people think because he started to enjoy himself that it made the first part okay. I wish we had better general education about assault, PTSD, abuse, etc. She really does like to make Jeoh suffer, and that's fine, like I love the trauma as long as we get a happy ending. But when it's the person who's supposed to love him, it's just so gross. Who's there to save him now? No one. And yet, you know they're gonna reconcile. Whether they live or die, I imagine they won't just part ways and allow Jeoh to have a happy life. Though maybe at this point I'd tolerate Seongrok dying in order to give that to Jeoh. Normally I hate that type of conclusion, but it'd be the ultimate show of love after what he put this person he supposedly loves through.

    It mostly irks me because it's unnecessary and unfitting of Seongrok. Like he hates that sort of thing and kills people because they do it. He's supposed to love this person, and it just doesn't make sense beyond an author kink. And I'm not kink shaming at all. As long as it's fictional, people are allowed to like SA between the main couple that somehow still ends in love. But I hate that crap so much, and it makes me really sad to have gone all that way thinking I wouldn't have to deal with that.

    Seriously, though, it's a shame. I did see the raws, and I figured the fact that he stays upset is why people are freaking out. It just doesn't sit right with me that people seemingly were okay with the earlier assault. But you get what I mean. We clearly are seeing the same stuff. It's a shame. I hate that I'm not even sure I want to completely drop it because I liked the first half so much. This sort of story, with this kind of art, is so rare in MM stuff, especially with a bottom who isn't "pure," "innocent," weak, and "selfless."

otakulys October 20, 2023 5:40 am

I'm only on chapter 22, and I'm just not sure I have it in me to continue. I knew this was gonna be a mess, but I hate pretty much every character. I also hate how the MC is chasing after that weird, spoiled brat too. Why did you even have feelings for him? He's possessive and short-sighted, incredibly selfish, and completely uncaring about anything other than what he wants. If he weren't completely obsessed with owning the MC, he wouldn't have given a flying crap about what was happening to him in that house. And yet MC is all teary and desperate, like he's losing something incredible. I guess when all you've ever known is abuse, the abuse the chokes you with a smile on its face seems tolerable.

otakulys May 28, 2021 4:09 am

I don't want the uke to end up with either option. I like the mafia boss as a character, but he IS a horrible person, just in general. Even if he cares about the uke, he's a murderer, and you can't really redeem that. But I hate Jun so, SO much. He doesn't show any remorse, or act like he was at fault. He isn't sorry. He told the uke to kill himself when he was already suicidal. I don't care if he was young. He told someone who loved him to DIE because of his PRIDE.

If he'd grown in any way, he would have been torn up about what he'd done, but he still sees himself as some victim. I hate that the uke cares about him or wants him back. I just want Jun to suffer. And yeah, I know everyone is either in love with Jun or in love with the mafia boss, and I'm probably gonna get a ton of downvotes, but I would seriously prefer an ending with Jun losing the uke forever after falling in love with him again than an ending where Jun doesn't earn forgiveness but still gets to be with the uke.

    SSOTS May 28, 2021 12:43 pm

    THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL

    otakulys May 28, 2021 1:11 pm
    THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL SSOTS

    I'm glad I'm not alone!

otakulys May 23, 2021 3:56 am

I like sad stories with happy or hopeful endings, so can someone just give me a yes or no on the following question?

Do the main characters get a happy ending? They're still together, still alive, that's all I need. If one of them dies, or they break up or whatever, I can't take it.

    Min Min May 23, 2021 4:08 am

    Not happy ending as it is, but they're getting there

    Dissidia May 23, 2021 4:13 am

    They did get a happy ending, built their own life and grew together. they even have their own coffee shop and a puppy.

otakulys May 15, 2021 12:03 pm

What a little shit. I'm so tired of everyone pushing him around. Even what he said to his ex, I wish he'd been more forceful about it. He should have told him off. And now this brat showing up to ruin things because he's a selfish idiot.

otakulys May 10, 2021 9:16 pm

OBVIOUSLY HE'S NOT ACTUALLY DATING HIM, YOU FREAKING IDIOT!

I hate misunderstandings. Jesus christ.

otakulys May 5, 2021 1:08 am

Thanks for updating the correct translation! The chapter is much more satisfying now. I realize the context was completely off in places before. I hope we can get better translation for some of the previous chapters, too. I love this, even though I'm hesitant to get invested. Not sure my heart can take a sad end here.

otakulys May 2, 2021 11:39 pm

Oh my god, THANK YOU. Thank you for fixing it, whoever you are? It was a weird, disjointed mess, missing tons of pages and making it unreadable. Since so little of this mangaka's stuff is out there, I really wanted to read what she DID have available, and this was such a disappointment.

But finally someone fixed it! The first few chapters should just be deleted. The new upload has the entire manga, it looks like. I haven't finished reading, but from what I've skimmed, it seems to all be there.

    otakulys May 3, 2021 12:12 am

    Wait, scratch that. Just the first original chapter should be deleted. The chapters after the fixed one are the extras that aren't included in the fixed version. But my feelings remain the same otherwise!

    heonie May 3, 2021 12:45 pm
    Wait, scratch that. Just the first original chapter should be deleted. The chapters after the fixed one are the extras that aren't included in the fixed version. But my feelings remain the same otherwise! otakulys

    Hey, you're very welcome!! Although I just fixed it and the scans aren't mine. I felt like it was a shame that it wasn't properly uploaded because I also love this author and smells like green spirt has been my top 10 since forever. This manga is more of a comedic take and pure crack haha it wasn't a boring read for me personally but of course it doesn't compare to their other one.
    Oh about chapter 1, it's actually the main story in full without the extras and because it's composed of "acts" instead of chapters it felt weird to upload like 11 chapters of just a few pages so I uploaded it all in one I left chapters 2,3 and 4 as they are because they're extras and were completely and correctly uploaded.

    heonie May 3, 2021 12:48 pm
    Wait, scratch that. Just the first original chapter should be deleted. The chapters after the fixed one are the extras that aren't included in the fixed version. But my feelings remain the same otherwise! otakulys

    When i uploaded I also submitted a report to have the previous incomplete chapter 1 removed and it got removed so now it's all good!

    otakulys May 3, 2021 10:21 pm
    When i uploaded I also submitted a report to have the previous incomplete chapter 1 removed and it got removed so now it's all good! heonie

    Oh good! Yeah, seriously, Smells Like Green Spirit is in my top five for sure. It's so beautiful and sad, at times a little too sad for me, but just so unique and wonderful. I hope she does more like that, though this was definitely cute and ridiculous. Not at all boring, like you said, haha.

otakulys April 25, 2021 11:35 am

There's another chapter after this, but it isn't on the site. I don't know why. It's translated and everything, but I can't remember where I found it. It doesn't fix anything, sadly, but it shows the other guy's perspective. I forgot a lot of the details.

Does anyone know where the second half is?

otakulys March 4, 2021 1:47 pm

What was with those horns at the end? Was it a metaphor? Did his grief turn him evil? Was he secretly the evil magician or whatever the entire time? What is happening?

    Crystal March 10, 2021 2:41 pm

    Meh. Some kind of phenomenon that happens when you let evil swallow you
    You could read him saying: forget about me and DIEEE
    While the anger took over him
    Its some kind of metaphor

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