MangaThinker's Topics (916)

I also do........ I waiting for those pair of anime kawaii bear mounts.

Good news it’s coming in October this year

What!? Really?! Thanks!

╥﹏╥ yes but I relate to her talking to people is hard

Introverts united we're here, we're uncomfortable, and we want to go home

I am also an introvert and I expected some inner hidden strenght.
She can be very scared but at the same time also very determined.

I agree but I actually like her unlike other wimp characters I have seen

What are actually her good qualities despite being such a scared rabbit or trembling mouse?

I just meant she's not as annoying as other wimp characters I came across, in my opinion of course. I just like her. I dont have a particular reason for that. Besides if she has such a fear for social interaction I can kinda see why she acts like that. And truth be told I'd be pissing my pants if a giant rabbit suddently started speaking saying they'd eat my head. As for good qualities, Idk, it's only been 2 chapters and I think this manga is one where we might expext some good character development... she can see a persons true intention and seems kind? Idk
Again, its just my personal opinion. I am aware this type of character is not popular with readers I have seen some where they really annoy me

Good points

i know it's a repeated trope we often see but for this manhwa i'm okay with it since 6yr old Gio never got to learn that the 3 yr old Felix is someone he can feel warmth from because Felix was called away by his mother before Gio could touch Felix's face (spoiler)..besides Gio had a really difficult time while he was at the orphanage, meeting Felix who "protected" him from the old man (who wanted to exploit Gio's condition to the media) gave the kid Gio another sort of warm feeling of someone actually caring for him

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You know you can already see the link postet here upside the comments....

I skip ..... ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Okay first off I absolutely ADORE Leslie from Monster Duchess, she’s actually the cutest, but I wanted to state my opinion about this MC too.
Granted I’ve only read 3 chapters but from Adele I don’t get the vibe of ‘weak and feeble damsel in distress’ but rather the feeling of someone who has given everything that she is towards something and gotten nothing back, she is just so broken and tired that she doesn’t have the energy to care about revenge or plans for the future, right now she only wants to get out and get away from this void that she poured her life into.
Again, I love Leslie, but not everyone can bear that kind of weight in their lives without breaking (all props to Leslie’s inner strength) and I don’t think Adele’s any worse for not being able to actively fight against her toxic family.
Plus, just comparison here, Leslie’s family was emotional and passionate in their abuse (beatings, yelling, starvation, attempted murder) while Adele’s family was cold and disdainful in their abuse (failed expectations, ignoring her, looking down). So two different environments (both horrendous) produced two different mindsets.
So far I’m liking both MCs, but ya know I’ve only had 3 chapters for Adele so maybe I’ll change my mind, I just wanted to share my opinion ╮(￣▽￣)╭

What does this story have to do with Monster Duchess?? There’s plenty of other FL’s that are much weaker than Adele, I don’t really know why there’s a comparison between Leslie and Adele specifically

Of course there are other weaker FL examples but there are FLs who are treated so much worse but still manages to do so much on their own.
Adele's story reminds me of Leslie's situation (MC of Monster Duchess).

I also love and admire Leslie. She is one of few progressive new type heroines I ve ever seen like Melissa from "Beware of the Villainess", Sasha from"The Pet of the Villainess" or UGLYHOOD.
I don't disagree with your opinions but even you just pointed out that Leslie's circumstances are so much harsher and worse than Adele and she still was able to break out of her family ties with her determination and courage.
Even Tia from "The Villainess lives Twice" has more backbone and self-awareness than Adele.
I think the difference between her and my favourites that I mentioned is RAGE.
Rage made these FLs/MCs become more badass and competent on their own.
And Adele doesn't have that which makes her sooo meek...

I am interested in her story but it does frustrate me that she isn't as capable like the other formidable "bitches".
Please Tell me why exactly you like a MC like Adele.

https://newtoki65.com/webtoon/2428951?toon=%EC%9D%BC%EB%B0%98%EC%9B%B9%ED%88%B0
Please Throw Me Away

By the way, the MC of "Daisy - How to Become the Duke's Fiancée" is also kinda meek like Adele but after her cruel death in the first timeline she managed to change her situation/fate through sheer willpower and intelligence that was triggered by her inner "rage". She is still a really nice girl but she also became a smart bitch that can hold a candle to others!

Melissa is also awesome, haven’t read Pet of the Villainess
Thnx for the raw links, I did check out a few chapters and Adele does have more emotion in her than the first 3 chapters showed! I was seeing her as a very tired ‘done with life, I just want this to end’ type of character but apparently I was wrong, she does appear more the damsel in distress type. Wop ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Still I am interested in her story and her character. I love face slapping, especially rebirth or transmigration ones (becoming an obsession.....) and Adele, yeah I guess she is the weak someone save me type, I still respect her for trying so hard in her first life. As an emotionally fragile person that family would totally wreck me but Adele kept trying and trying to believe she could be happy. Even in her second life she isn’t dominated by her family (mentally, I mean, still doing everything for them) and is forming her own personality
Don’t get me wrong, rage is fun, I’m with you that it helps makes the characters more badass and powerful on their own. And i do admit that a big reason why I sometimes read stories with weak FLs is really just to see someone get out of a bad situation and be happy.
Again, face slapping is also a HUGE plus

Have you tried Priscilla’s Marriage or Sincerely I became a Duke’s maid??? They’re also really good!! Priscilla is owning her second life and Ibelina just does whatever she wants (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Ehh but I really don’t think you could compare the two as they’re two completely different people. Not every character is gonna react the exact way you expect them to. Leslie received tons of harsh treatment and abuse and was personally sent to be sacrificed by her family, in this story Adele doesn’t get as much of a worse treatment and she’s mostly neglected/ignored. I feel like the worse you’re treated, the stronger you’d want to get revenge, and it doesn’t seem like Adele’s head is full of rage or anger. Honestly if I were her, I wouldn’t want to have to put in so much effort to get revenge and would rather run away and live peacefully, why would I wanna deal with such annoying people?

And tbh even if she did get sent back in time, it would be strange if she suddenly was a genius and had a master plan, knowing exactly how to get back at her family. I don’t even think Adele was really angry at her father for having her killed, I think she was more disappointed or exhausted. I’ve looked at the latest raws and the story is still just barely starting, I don’t even think she knows that she has the ability to heal yet. You can’t really expect her to go back in time and then immediately jump into action.

It’s like that “fight or flight” saying, many can be one or the other. Some FL’s would choose to get their revenge or others would choose to do their best to avoid their bad ending and not be so focused on vengeance. Have you ever seen Doctor Elise? The FL was technically executed by the ML but she never wanted revenge at all and focused more on improving herself and helping those around her. A Stepmother's Märchen Is where the FL is killed and gets sent back in time, but she doesn’t even try to find out why or who killed her.

Thanks, I appreciate your arguments :)
Yes, I did.

To be honest, I think Priscilla has it really too good.
I can't really relate to her, to be honest.
She turned back time because she couldn't handled her first timeline position. Almost 30, short hair, a hardened body with some scars, no high status, not much money, single... She was only fixated on fixing her past instead of moving forward...
Her suffering and motivation is not exactly that impactful. Just my opinion.

Talking about a good bitch that does whatever she want:::
You should try reading Peerless Alchemist ^^ I like this story because the MC is a queen, ML is the Waifu and her two male mount Deer and Wolf are gay for each other ;)

I like IBELINA because she is regular commoner without any special abilities but she is able to help and protect the fragile cursed ML in her own way. I can feel her intention.

This is great

Point taken. But...
I did read Doctor Elise and A Stepmother's Märchen.
But these MCs are going to the front to change things for the better.
Elise is risking her life to help as many people as she can and Suri is literally fighting back against her late husbands relatives and her parasitic blood family!
They don't have revenge in their mind but justice and redemption.
And now look at Adele... She is a pitiful soul who needs the help of the ML her black knight in shining armor to do anything impactful.
I have to think about the MC of "Daisy - How to Become the Duke's Fiancée". She is doing a much better job than Adele how to change her fate/horrendous situation.
After her death and rebirth she doesn't have any vengeance in mind. Her priorities are becoming independent woman by having your own vast fortune and taking care of her little sister. She wants to avoid the people who harmed and killed but evtl she has to fearlessly confront them so she can live more piecefully.

Adele doesn't know how to empower or really protect herself at all.
She just gets luckly.

Peerless Alchemist....I’m only at chapter 20 AND I’M IN LOVE ヾ(☆▽☆)
As for Priscilla, I agree she had it a bit too good but I mean if I knew of a super powerful stone that would let me rewind time, I’d go after it too

This kinda proves my point of how different each one of these FL’s are. They have their own different personalities and mindsets as to what they want to do. I don’t really understand why every FL has to be so independent and do most things by themself, I think it should be okay to let themself be protected once in a while.

Also I really don’t see at all how she depends on the knight ML to help her, even after looking through all nineteen raw chapters. The only time he helped her was from a wolf that she literally had no ability of fighting with her bare hands. Other than that, the ML was the one to keep coming to her house when she never asked him to come. She also stopped her mother from slapping her on her own. I think it’s an exaggeration to say that she’s a sort of damsel in distress after being saved once, and her not taking much action yet. Just cause she hasn’t done anything yet, doesn’t mean she’s super weak.

Anyways tbh I think you have kind of high expectations of female leads or have a set mindset of: “female leads must be able to do stuff on their own and have the passion to hate the ones that hurt them.” I’ve pretty much seen all the stories you mentioned plus more, and I still don’t have any expectations of new female leads that I find. I like to keep an open mind and not expect them to be a certain level of strong, intelligence, or have certain personality traits such as “righteous, justice, or rage-filled.” These female leads may all be in the same category of being reborn, but each one of them are different in other ways.

I think if you free yourself from the usual expectations of the many similar female leads in this genre, then you might be able to find something new or not be so disappointed from seeing something you don’t enjoy.

It is very tempting ^^

Agree to disagree. It's because I am open-minded and have critical thinking that I can criticize tropes and archetypes that are harmful or outdated.
There is nothing wrong more stories about emancipation and independent characters for characters.
In the end everyone has its own interpretation or how they view things.
You like Adele how the author portrays her and I believe she can do better or can improve more especially because she has priviledges that the other more empowered MCs in worse situations don't have.
Let's stop fighting about who is more right and respect each other preferences.

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I've read the novel and apparently the younger brother doesn't know that MC is still alive thus MC gets to successfully plot his revenge against the ex and the younger brother :)

There’s a novel? Can you link the novel please.

Please, tell me that the revenge is not only to get back his inheritance. If the ex and lil bi... bro are not at least half dead and in prison, this is not worth reading... ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

yeah and the novel is hardcore yaoi xD but its in chinese. you can find the novel by typing the chinese name on google.

That's good to hear! I would have been furious, if the younger toxic brother would have been one or two steps ahead.
Please spoil me more with important events regarding MC's vengeance against his family :9
But wait, didn't the ex already discovered the MC and his baby son in the earlier chapters when he sold meals in public???

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MC was very strategic in his planning to bring down his brother and dad as well as the ex. The seme played an important role in this too cuz he helped the MC. The ex did discovered MC and his son but however, he's more busy in caring about other stuff such as worrying about the little brother cheating on him thus he was the only one to found out that MC is still alive.

Thank you, You re the best!

It seems that the ex is one of the stupidest character that have ever existed.