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I ship Minhyuk with him so much I hope he holds back in the next chapter so I don’t have to cut off the ship ヽ(`Д´)ノ
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What he did could be considered both if you look up the UPDATED version of legal rape. But either way you should be bothered by both, both are completely traumatic experiences. It's insensitive to act like somehow one is less severe when both result in horrible PTSD. Either way Minhyuk has retraumatized our baby.
Listen bruh, there's nothing wrong with shipping problematic ships. I ship some twisted shit myself but that's because I like the toxicness of the relationship and I accept it as wrong, I don't try to downplay the toxicness to make it more romantic. If you want romance then Minhyuk is not your guy, might as well give up on that instead of making excuses for him. He gets worse too I'm sorry to say.
Btw, sorry for the long ass response lmao
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Everyone is saying this is rape but like-... ppl have drunk sex sometimes. Couples, friends, one night stands, it just happens. Some people even intend to get drunk if they don’t want to have sex sober. When ur drunk, the truth comes out, right? He said he liked Minhyuk, and it just seems that he’s interested! But some make points that being drunk isn’t consensual, but ur in a TRUTHFUL state when ur drunk! If Suyeong says “no” or anything similar, or make gestures that he doesn’t want it and Minhyuk keeps going, then that is when I’ll consider it rape. I’d also consider it rape if Suyeong is unconscious or just isn’t able to speak or move, but he isn’t. Therefore, rape? Doesn’t seem like it (yet). In the next chapter, if what I previously said happens and Minhyuk decides to force him, then we can kill him. But until then... I have to keep this ship different opinions but no hate pls! I’m only saying what I believe to be true!
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LMAO are you kidding me? He purposely got him drunk so he could take advantage of him. You can't consent when you're drunk. Drunk sex happens when both parties are drunk and that is definitely not the case here. "You're truthful when you're drunk"? You're shitting me. Take a break from bl until you can understand what victim blaming is.
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If you make a move on someone incapable of making complete sentences due to being inebriated, then no, that’s assault. If you’re tipsy, that’s one thing, most people are still in control after only a few drinks. But in this case he trusts the guy, that’s why he said he felt safe to drink around him, he is NOT in a state of mind to consciously consent to ANYTHING that might be done to him.
So what he’s about to do is assault and a breach of trust. Min-Hyuk can go fuck himself for his actions.
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Uke is saying yes and all that shit cause he sees the seme not him cause he drunk.... And I hate that bitch. Just no. Taking advantage of a drunk person is a no no for me. (Spoilers kinda for the next chap) thank yaoi that that bish stopped or else he would have fully "raped" him. That annoying ass madafaker.
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I’m sorry, but you can consent when ur drunk, it’s a fact. There is a such think as drunken consensual sex, too. You do make a good point when saying that he purposely got him drunk which is quite fishy and do seem wrong, I didn’t say that part when writing my comment because I didn’t realize it in the previous chapter—until u said something about it. But speaking truthfully- both parties do not have to be drunk to have consensual sex. It’s only rape if the person is forcing sex upon you, or if u can’t do anything about it. Suyeong was able to speak “yeah...” “yeah... I do”, if he didn’t like where things were going, he could say no since he is CAPABLE of doing so. It is not against the law to have sex with a drunk person and the other to be sober, either. And I promise I’m not victim blaming! I just know that this isn’t rape. Maybe do a little research if u don’t understand? Or perhaps do a little bit of law research. Because it is not rape—you are able to consent when drunk. I dont mind further discussing this, please share more of ur opinion
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Hey, I truly don’t mean to offend anyone, and I’m definitely not trying to justify rape—I would NEVER do that. What I’m trying to do it’s clarify the situation, because many think this is rape when, indeed, it is not. In ch.20, while Suyeong is taking a shower, he has memories of his previous partner who was drunk and wanted sex, while Suyeong was sober. Suyeong clearly did not want sex, but the drunk partner wanted to force it. THAT is what I consider to be a form of rape. Both sides are consensual and know what they want. They are both adults and is aware of what sex is—if you know what is happening and is able to do something about it, ur in a consensual state. Hopefully that’s more understandable! U are still in a state of mind when drunk, that is why it is not illegal for one to be drunk and the other to be sober when having sex. It is definitely rape if one is unconscious, bc THAT aid not a consensual state. Being aware of what’s happening is the key—if ur in the mood and want it, then there ya go. It’s okay. No kissing or actual sex has happened in this chapter, so it’s only in the next chapter when we can officially know if this is rape or not. But so far, things are consensual.
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Spoilerish so proceed with caution
Towards the end of the chapter you can clearly see Sooyoung beginning to fall asleep as he's near blackout drunk (confirmed that he blacked out in later chapters bc he doesn't remember anything) and yet Minhyuk is still making his move. You're right that there's no rape yet in THIS chapter, but next chapter Sooyoung is barely conscious and half asleep and therefore not sober/alert enough to give consent. What Minhyuk proceeds to do to him can be classified as sexual assault if not rape.
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Oh I see ur point. I figured that there was nothing wrong, since he was conscious enough to answer questions. He said he liked him, which gave me the thought that- yeah, he’s interested. I hope u can see where I’m coming from. I haven’t seen the next chapters, but if he’s unconscious or unable to do anything about the sexual situation (not giving hints that he is okay with what is going on) as u say, then ofc I will DEFINITELY consider it as sexual assault or rape depending on how far he goes.
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I would understand your point if they were A COUPLE, but they're not, that's why what you're saying sounds really wrong, my God, even if they were a couple it's still weird, if i woke up in a situation like this i would have been so mad. You can also see that he was thinking about the guy that wanted him to live with him, not Minhyuk.
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There’s a difference between drunk sex and this situation. Min-Hyuk even noted that he was able to easily push him over when he KNOWS how solid of a guy he is. The poor guy is TRASHED, and Min-Hyuk is taking advantage of that, and ANYTHING he does in this situation is assault, no question. He’s taking advantage of him, point blank, and Min-Hyuk himself is fucked up personality-wise. There’s been hints of it, and it becomes more obvious in the raw chapters, which you can find by Googling the Korean name.
Min-Hyuk is a trash friend
Ok but... Samual and Jake? I kinda ship it. Btw- Jay and Daniel has been out of the chapters for wAY TOO LONG NOW!! Anyways- apart from the ships, this scene is getting interestinggg no one harm the puppy pls
fr tho like when samuel grabbed jakes hair damn
Ngl but the way the author writes this it's like a character just simply breaths in the direction of another character my brain just shouts ship it. Love it
yall got a big storm coming-