Uriel's Topics (16)

Your not the only one confused about this. I thought that Lispen was disgusted with Humans and Rubymonter wanted nothing to do with them. But the new chapter said otherwise ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Both are bad in a sense because they both want the King's 'Power' even if it means killing a whole slew of people. The only difference is Lispen is down right dark with how he'd been trying to get the Power to awaken.

Rubymonter wants the power while wanting a 'dead' king to remain dead so she can become King. Seeing how Rood is not a dead king, but a dead human merged with the King. She detests humans entirely and thinks of them as ants as you've seen.

Again both are evil, but Lispen is the worse of the two evils lol. Rubymonter would back off while Lispen wouldn't seeing how she'll obey the King if he orders her as such. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

Aahh! I see now. This makes it easier to understand them both xD Thank you! But I hope neither of them gets the King's power at all =_=

Ikr, I'm hoping Rood can get them back safely without having to let him die >:

But my doubt still reamins about whar lispen said, because what I undestood is that he will stop the harm against the humans?? Well that´s what the T´´to´´ means to me

But yeah, hoplefully Rood will reamain as he is and save everyone

There's also this:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/manga/kuroshitsuji/v18/c108/pg-22/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v23/c117/pg-17/

Same room? And he conveniently has his hand over his right eye aha.

I have a feeling the twin might be in play for whatever Lizzy is doing... Maybe.

Because it's not Ciel's room in his dream. His room only has one window: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/manga/kuroshitsuji/v18/c108/pg-24/

Or maybe the windows were just drawn too spaced out aha.

Still, even the bed design is the exact same... Suspicious.

No wonder when I saw the room It seemed familiar.....then I'm not crazy Σ(っ°Д °;)っ








hahaa yeah! like Ciel doesn't sleep with his eyepatch and then ''him'' covering his eye...
And yeah, maybe that's why Lizzy is with them...I feel like the other one resembles the father more and well we'll have to see what more there is and why Ciel doesn't remember and yeah

Twin powers maybe (8 ?

I didn't notice before but besides the thing I apointed there is the hairstyle.... http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c093/pg-11/

Hehe.

There used to be an extensive forum thread about 2CT. But the forum suddenly went down without notice a couple months ago...

I probably will reassemble whatever I can recollect about it this week, as I will be having too much time lol. But one thing I can remember that's also really interesting is that: The real Ciel has that bruise right under his left eye in the sacrifice flashback.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c095/pg-7/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-34.html/13/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c095/pg-14/

Which our Ciel did not have (different bruises):
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-61.html/25/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c095/pg-12/

Basically, on chapter 90 we're seeing the real Ciel through our Ciel's eyes (the one warmly holding his hand to calm him, then being taken away):
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c090/1.html/pg-16/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c090/1.html/pg-17/

Of course the I still had you referring to his twin, not some random friend. I feel like the middle panel before the smiling Ciel is our Ciel turning his head to look at him. By the way, there's a mistranslation on the second page, he actually says: No, don't take him away! Ciel! (the scanlators probably thought it didn't make sense which is why they translated it in the wrong way aha).

And there are LOTS of these things ._.

No wonder in here, the POV es from the one INSIDE the cage aka our Ciel http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-34.html/13/ and yeah, our Ciel seems to be reaching over for the other Ciel
I think, one of the biggest reasons I thought this theory was true is because of the 'No, don't take him away' and then the him sreaming for Ciel

There's this too http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c099.5/pg-25/

And in the nursing extra.

Cheerful Real Ciel:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c099.5/pg-9/

He seems just as dark as what he is in Ciel's dream, comments on not wanting fake brothers (already has one?):
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c099.5/pg-21/

Sickly out of the blue (our Ciel):
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c099.5/pg-24/

There are two plates, spoons etc (ate with his brother?):
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v18/c099.5/pg-25/

And it's another circus in the Bard's flashback. Always something conveniently hiding one side of Vincent, more blatantly on this panel:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-31.html/28/

He also has one arm extended and obviously whatever he's reaching at is hidden. Why? :L
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-31.html/27/

Acts all cheerful then all of the sudden theres the other shy one (he does not say his name, just hides and Vincent comments that he's shy with strangers aha):
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-32.html/2/

He says he's mesmerized by the three of them. Is the old guy that mesmerizing? Like, really? Or is he talking about the little guy Vincent is looking at?
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-32.html/5/

Then there's the whole deal with Ciel hiding to Lizzie that he has asthma (because real Ciel did not have it and our Ciel was known for it?):
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-56.html/23/
I think there was a better panel where Sebastian was about to comment on it and Ciel urged him to not in front of Lizzie, but I don't have the time anymore to look for it xD.

OMG JVNFJVDNFJV this new thing you pointed are vjnfkjdbnkfbg I hadn't notice them! But now that you point them out I feel stupid
Did you realize that in this http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-31.html/29/ and this http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-32.html/2/ the hairstyles are diferents?? (I sound crazy) but i feel like the one from the first link is our Ciel (the one with asthma) and on the second link is the twin

btw, this is the one that created the rumor http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji/103/pg-5/

Oh, and the thing is, Sebastian can't lie, right? He isn't allowed to. Which interesting since he always adresses him as Earl Phantomhive, never has he uttered the name Ciel...

Also, he calls Ciel a liar here. Because he says his name is Ciel? Would be wierd if he's saying that he's lying about him going to be victorious aha.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-62.html/7/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-62.html/8/

Then the his lineage tree. It looks like it's splitting at the end.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji/103/pg-5/

Then the guy saying This is worth more than two people!. Saying that the both of them are worth more than the typical child.

All sorts of stuff :)

And that makes scenes like these all the more interesting:
http://i.imgur.com/xrrrugh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Z09LMUh.png

I think it's the same scene, just redrawn. Further proof is in the anime, it's not shown twice. Which is why I don't really bother with the hair partings, even though there are probably some very subtle clues there anyway.

Ok, no wonder Sebastian called him a liar.
Thruth is, there is enough evidence and yeah does scenes do make sense, and we can kinda predict that our Ciel is the baby brother.

Another super clue is this, well I think... http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/v20/c106/pg-2/

Yeah, I'm still not 100% convinced that he's talking about the twin, but it's either that or Vincent.

But since according to Undertaker even Vincent's bones were burned... It'd be hard to do anything for him indeed aha.

I'VE BEEN SUCKED INTO THIS THEORY AND I CAN'T GET OUT
there's so much proof and its amazing how MUCH I missed
I found this:
http://theofficialdoublecieltheorist.blogspot.com/?m=1
And I'm so excited for future theories and hints.

I KNOW THE FEELING!

I MADE MY FRIEND FREAK OUT WITH HOW MUCH OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE THERE WAS

AHAHAHAHAH SAME HERE!!! Even though she doesn´t read it (she´s kinda opening to this new world?) She was all: Duuuude there's such a cospiracy and all that

I alway thought this theory was totally whack, until I decided to look at the evidence. It would also explain "Ciels" change in personailty to Lizzy who remembered him as positive and always smiling in the past.

PS. YOU CAN IGNORE THIS SINCE IT ISN'T THE ''COMPLETE'' RANT AND IT WAS SUPOSED TO BE DELETED BUT I GUESS NOT.

Yeah, I got confused, too, about that. Did he regress?

I guess.... because one of the reasons they started dating it was because he was inmune to her

which chapter he said that ? :O

I had to look for it since I kinda forgot which was it (read it on a roll) http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/no_6/bt/vTBD/c027/pg-33/

aah, I remember that too...
It was deep how he described his love to be just "Love" (▰˘◡˘▰)

aw so cute (●'◡'●) thank you so much, and sorry for the trouble :)

don't worry c: just enjoy the love ლ(´ڡ`ლ)