im so OBSESSED with the second couple y'all don't understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK I READ THEIR KISS SCENE 934843835 TIMES
I think one thing I hate the most from ppl who read yaoi, is that the 'uke' tend to be labeled sluts and other degrading words when they're more promiscious or have more sexual actvity, but it's competely ok for the 'seme' - and instead their multiple partners would be referred to as 'his hoes', etc. Just an observation, obviously not exclusive to this webtoon. But then again, I'm not surprised bc misogyny is so normalised. Yaoi is literally so hetero in that sense lol
Can Khaol make things right with Kaveri and let him go (properly) before acting like he has the right to protect anyone lol. I think his desire to help River is also coming from a place of selfishness –lessening his own guilt, rather than actually caring about what River wants and needs.
YES OMFG AND THATS ON PERIOD.
Jesus fuck THIS^^
GOD OF PAIN IN THE ASS
PREACH!! u took the words out of my mouth
"Jiwook slapped Seungeon first so why are u mad at him??"
uhhhhhhh are y'all dense?? Jiwook was forcibly kissed, the slap towards Seungeon was 100% warranted. Seungeon's slap on the otherhand was distasteful lol
i love Kim Jongchan? It's so rare for me like male leads but he's just so............respectful and kind, and has that stereotypical strong masculine aura and yet doesn't give me ANY red flags? amazing
jiho is hilarious and honestly idc who he ends up with, he can get all the attention he wants
I love daon’s work ethic lmao he ain’t no slave to capitalism
authors NEED to stop...including rape in their webtoon (and then make the 'uke' actually like it in the next chapter - which btw in itself is super problematic too). it's really, really weird and it just makes consumers who fetishise bl, become desensitise to these scenes and act like its normal (when it should never be normal). and if you are going to add borderline rape scenes, don't make it between a couple you're going to make endgame bc like i said, weird. you can say that authors can do whatever they want, like sure, but you gotta remember they also bare responsibilities (lets not pretend like majority of yall aint under 17 lol) and consumers are allowed to give feedback. im not gonna blindly support someone lmao
ive been buying this from lezhin too so????
Not necessary not include it, but make it out to be as horrific and as scarring as it is in real life....but otherwise i agree, it's scary to read comments of these obviously really young people, that should not be reading yaoi at all takling about how this was "rough sex".
yes i agree, if u gonna include rape - then you should also show the consumers how scary and awful it is - not romanticise it (which is seen by almost all bl webtoons)
I’m sorry but honey it’s a manhwa about yakuza and gangs what did you expect? moe moe love??
girl there's no mf policy in a yakuza or gang setting that you gotta rape someone you're in love with. it's literally more about being associated with prostitution, drugs, smuggling extortion. and like i said, if rape HAD to be included, don't make between an endgame couple bc it's wrong lol
lik when will y'all realise that having R rated or NSFW scenes does not necessarily mean having to include rape. it's can mean other illegally and morally ambiguous activities LMAO, for e.g. murder and revenge between rival gangs, which btw does not need to include rape and would be much more interesting.
Idk you talk like you’ve seen a yakuza of softies or something however It’s a rough sex honey they already like each other so?
gtfo w the idea that disapproving rape makes u a softie. weird af mindset. a simple google search comes along way lmaoo. yeah sure, rape might be involved in gangs but like i said, not towards romantic partners - or i'd simply be a crime or whatever. not a hard concept to grasp but act dumb if u want
Calm yo tits and just drop the manhwa
love it when that’s the only thing y’all can say when u have nothing else to add gfhghhh
My boy u still going?
this isnt even a 'toxic' relationship, it's literally just abuse and violence with a touch of stockholm syndrome?? all of these scenes are so unnecessary too, what exactly is it adding to the 'plot'??? yeah ok we already know seungho is a psychopath with weird abandonment issues, u dont need to remind us every 2nd chapter lol. im also so confused like does the author expect us to sympathise with seungho and want them to get together.......
also, waiting for his 'character development' is sooooo problematic.
character development is about constructing an identity or determining flaws etc...being a rapist is not a flaw LOL
Character development doesn't mean growth or a change for better. It simply means a change, a new stage. The mere fact that Seungho who gets easily bored and avoids attachment to people decides to keep a lover forever is a development of epic proportions.
I agree that character development is about change. I’m just giving an example of the type of development that the author (and readers) are obviously goin for - which is basically changing seungho into a ‘better’ character since that’s literally the only direction that would make sense. I just think calling that character development is problematic bc there’s nothing redeemable or justifiable about seungho’s characterisation
I got your point, I just think most of the fandomn embellished Seungho behavior too much to the point they created a personage who isn’t him. Now they get all shocked when he does that to Nakyum, he was already like that and he treated his past lovers the same way! I agree he truly love Nakyum but he doesn’t even know how to behave with someone he cherish and end up locking him hip, raping and hurting. If he doesn’t work on himself and get therapy for his traumatic past he will always treat Nakyum this way
hot take but isaac is the hotter one