
This webtoon is alot more detailed than I expected especially when it comes to culture in Oman, some of it is ehhh and I’m scared to know how they’ll dabble in Islamic topics but it did a little more than I expected and I do love all the characters so far but goddd
Ashan or whatever is hot don’t get me wrong but man why is it such a trend for fair-skinned or white passing characters to be basically the main leads in stories or cultures where people tend to be anything but that? LMAO like I don’t know but it’s sad to think that sometimes they won’t even think about making the character brown-skinned or anything and dark eyed in fear that it might not be interesting enough or something lol.
And don’t even get me started and female characters who are leads, I can probably count on my fingers the amount of FL that aren’t fair skinned please lol. Like really what was stopping them from just putting this story in Europe or something and making Ashan a european prince or something or at least making his cousin the lead like noooo we gotta make the one white looking guy here the most important one.
It definitely follows the same layout as the White Savior trope (which is a pretty documented and researched trope I implore you to look it up if you don’t know of it). I’ve got an issue with it ngl, like I said I do really like Ashan as a character and he is handsome with his aryan-like features but I’m just pointing out this trope lol.
Also another thing I really like, personally, I really like how Hani looks like an actual korean. Nothing wrong with having your korean girls be bright haired and bright eyed of course like it’s all fictional but I really do appreciate that sometimes they’ll keep it simple and still show that despite having none of that she can be quite the looker and she is very pretty to me like that.

they are the minority, and it’s not as if white skinned blue eyed blondes aren’t represented in these manhwas, they’re always the male leads. the majority of the people don’t look like that, and it should’ve represented the country and the people where this takes place. it’s just blatant, how the author wants to take the ‘fool’ aspects of the culture without actually using brown-skinned people of the culture.

yup. it essentially rehashes people of color’s culture and sends it back to us packaged with white people. honestly you can argue the favoritism for white-passing characters in fictional pieces that aren’t connected to the real world or are fantasy. it’s even crazier to think about because a lot of these authors/artists are people of color too ... not white people pushing an agenda or something

lol maybe like .01 percent of arabs have blue eyes AND blonde hair. plenty of arabs are on the light side or could pass for white europeans or smth but that level of paleness, blue eyes and blonde hair is very specific to places within scandanavia. obv there all kinds of shades of light hair and colored eyes found around the world but that look above is distinctly not arab even amongst the light skinned arabs. not to mention his facial features are also super northern european too. like...the artist did not even TRY lol. why not just make him be adopted or smth if u want an anglo prince that bad? smh

in fact it only looks like it’s gotten worse. It sucks because I really do like her design and her personality, I love sexually liberated female characters but not at the expense of them being invasive, insensitive, and ignorant.
It’s not cute when men do this shit (regardless of how hot they could be and this is also a problem alot of readers have smh excusing shitty behavior with hot guys but not with girls) but it’s not cute when women do it either.
I just the more I look at this couple the more I can’t see anything good and fluffy about it when it’s built on a ton of manipulation and deceit from Havi and a clearly autistic-coded character like Yul (This isn’t an insult btw I’m on the autism spectrum myself). It doesn’t help that there’s a lack of experience, respect, and power that’s as gapped as their age lol. This isn’t what I hoped for and I’m really disappointed about that.

yall know the stuff in chpt 70 and stuff is a flashback right? smth in the Past, and since then she HAS changed a ton in terms of how she sees relationships and love. what other development are u looking for? her personality is someone who is impatient, chaotic, outgoing and impulsive. she has a big loud personality. thats not a flaw she needs to cure but it can lead to problems sometimes esp with someone so radically different from her as Yul. so far all the wrongs she's committed have come out of her not always understanding how to best connect with Yul and having to find ways to accommodate his needs AND hers. and to communicate better. Yul himself who is a very good boy is still not always as open and honest as he should be. he can be too closed off and too reluctant at times. and he takes a while before he starts to meet Havi half way (which if ur gonna be in a relationship u kinda have to sometimes??) but he's also clearly got baggage in his past that makes him act the way he does but neither have nor the eng readers know what that is yet. anyway for those who saw the raws u can see for yourselves that havi doesnt force yul into anything and he ultimately pursues a relationship with her of his own accord after she's given up and let him go.

Yes, I do also love Havi but though she's changed, it isn't much in certain places. I never said she forced him into the relationship though, we all know Yul likes Havi as well, they're in a pretty good relationship and Yul usually calls her out. My problem is her obsession with sex and, although it has improved, her business(in the wrong areas).

i never said u have an issue with her having sex. but wanting to have sex regularly with ur partner in a monogamous loving relationship is completely normal and usual the expectation? havi is someone who was used to having sex regularly but she put that aside for Yul, and its a big sacrifice for her but tis worth it cause she loves him that much. not every person has the same desire for sex. or the same sex drive. its common with new relationships where one partner may have to reckon with the other partner having a higher sex drive. some people NEED physical and sexual intimacy in a relationship for that relationship to actually work for them. but others dont! and both are ok! she's not obsessed and altho she can be aggressive she's never once shamed or blamed Yul for her not getting enough sex. it rly is for her a way for her to feel closer to him and to express her love cause sex is an important form of connection to her not just an act of pleasure. she's not trying to use Yul as her personal sex toy. i wish yall would try to see where Havi's coming from. as humans its ok to not only want but ot Need sex, the issues come when we act in ways that are inappropriate or predaatory in order to get sex but imo nothing about havi's behavior is something that should be concerning. and anytime she's over the line, she is Called Out within the text which is more than i can say for any 19rated comic i've read so far (and i read...alot) even the wholesome ones! dont have so much open and honest communication with the partners. and its also very typical in both bl and het couples for one parter (in het its usually the male) to have a higher sex drive and then impose that on the other partner. its painfully common and normalized. ofc like i said irl there's an element like that in relationships its just about managing it in a considerate way (or breaking up if u cant). but in comics its usually not taken that seriously. i just dont know why there's so much need for perfect ideal behavior from Havi in this comic when SO many out there across genres just dont even make half the effort this one does?

You don't seem to understand my problem, the fact is that Havi likes sex a lot, so much so that initially I wasn't sure if she actually like Yul. I already said that there isn't anything particularly wrong with wanting sex but her pushiness about it irritated me. I thought that Yul was like me, no sex until marriage(until I heard his reasoning) and he had said that several times but she kept insisting on sex. He still would have allowed sexual acts between them if she wasn't so pushy and instead talked and tried to understand h then get him to understand her.
There was also her incredulous ness(is this a word?) that he didn't want to have sex until marriage. She didn't respect that. I know that he is actually quite okay with it but I am talking about when they hadn't established that.
When she kept pushing even though he said no, I was glad that Yul set her straight but it still makes me think that if he truly truly didn't do anything with her when they started she might have moved on. I know she likes him now and probably wouldn't but the fact is that her love of sex is definitely more than just the type you get in a relationship.
That's just me. I get you but you do also have to understand that Havi still hasn't totally understood that sometimes you don't want or have to have sex.

So i had been spending my money to read it because I loved these characters. I just now caught up and I’m happy with this, I love the nuance in all the characters. I know it’s easy to not like characters like Okjae or Minhee but the flaws, the nuance, the realism of them and many others make them just feel more human that I end up just accepting it as it is.
It makes me feel good when I read this and I seriously love these characters. I have a feeling this webtoon is ending sooner than later and I want to say that the ride was totally worth it. I love these girls, I’m glad they all found their Missing O’s <3

I just hope Oakjae starts treating Aerum with more respect. It definitely did not evade me how they were playing the fuckboy and innocent girl trope reversed lolololol funny stuff but seriously needs to be addressed and honestly it’s kind of sad how alot of webtoons with BDSM or Femdom always like to be so dub-con.... why can’t it just be nice and consensual :/ like I promise you that type of BDSM exists
y’all saying he deserve better ... please no he DO NOT! he wasnt shit for a LONG while and his ass knew that like on my mama not yall getting swayed by his teary eyes and abs please asklajakaja and im not saying giving people a taste of your medicine is good but his ass is so hardheaded i can understand why she feels that way.
and yall saying communication is key is true but minhee is the KING of evading that shit like cmon now LMAO
like he evaded conversation with her ass for YEARS to the point she just gave up like yall cant be surprised that she chose a route that wasnt communication bc god knows if this boy gets scared and starts dodging again
LMFAOO this took me out no to men’s rights
i do believe in men’s rights!!!
men’s right to shut the fuck up!!! xoxo
You have me dead but THANK YOU!! We’re dealing with a hard-headed ass man that doesn’t know how to communicate properly so this is basically her last option to use. I understand that Minhee isn’t upfront but he needs to learn how to say whats on his mind or else he will lose the person he loves. Minhee needs to grow a bigger pair cause those two golf balls he have just ain’t working.
who said that? whoever said that must not have read carefully enough minhee is a fucking pussy if anything he deserves this "trial"... he needs to get his shit together