medeva May 12, 2024 12:33 pm

I think it’s the designs that’s making them look worse… I hate to say it (I don’t) but there aren’t many cool characters designs in this genre of shoujo isekai anymore and it’s really disappointing

medeva May 10, 2024 3:28 am

Like genuinely such a gorgeous FL and most of her outfits look great and aren’t gaudy… I really liked the potential of her trying to be good but the OG Chersina was always tempting her to that volatile nature… Just for them to dampen that angle completely smh.

And her man??? By god is he mid. It hurts to say because he could’ve at least looked and behaved more like the ML in I Tamed My Ex-Husband's Mad Dog I would’ve been tapped IN but alas. He’s not really selling it for me and the lovey dovey stuff is boring me if I’m not moved by one part of the relationship. Booooooooo what a waste because there’s so much potential here

medeva April 3, 2024 1:05 pm

Hilarious that the ML fell for the FL when she retired her audacious baddie attire and started dawning on cute tiktok tradwife looks, and I happened to really like those baddie looks.

I like them as a couple they’re sweet I’m a bit disappointed on the direction of Lize, it feels stagnant that she’s always pretending to reject her inner misogyny and hatred for Edith when people like Cliff are willing to do anything for her.

I would’ve appreciated some more inner turmoil if it’s more like Lize is a good person but just hates Edith. Which doesn’t seem to be the case tbh.

This is also why her and Cliff doesn’t really do much for me, it feels like he’s proactive and she’s reactive. The fact the story doesn’t frame this as a toxic dynamic or anything tells me they’re supposed to be a duo yet it feels like Cliff does all the work while Lize just sits there pretty lol. Very boring duo. In that sense, I can agree with the comment that found Cliff and Edith’s relationship more interesting. There’s a lot of tension, distrust, and manipulation playing around them that would make for a good enemies to lovers pairing or a corruption couple. But alas!

Anyway I enjoyed my catch up

    Kuru-Chan April 8, 2024 1:40 pm

    Lmao wait until you find out the truth about Lize

    medeva April 9, 2024 4:15 am
    Lmao wait until you find out the truth about Lize Kuru-Chan

    I can infer that she’s a villain and a part of the mastermind here maybe even a game master but I wish her personality captured me more

medeva January 28, 2024 10:05 pm

I read the comments and changed my mind abot this first paragraph lmao.

Anyway, I hope she doesn’t end up with any of them they are all genuinely awful and do not value your humanity outside of chattle or objectification. There’s also no real progression here, I get that this is Enemies to Lovers but you’re not allowing an avenue that allows each party to be viewed as an equal and that makes it harder for us readers to believe the progression of any relationship here.

It’s so frustrating how she is ultimately trapped in every angle here by people who proclaim they would rather have her dead but then keep her alive. Of course, I understand the politics here and how she can’t do much but narratively we are going in circles with this torture. It doesn’t have to be a revenge fantasy but we need things to pick up.

This can be a problem if the story has no narrative progression and she’s still in this loop of house-hopping while being whipped. At some point, it can become stagnant. Also, I feel like it flattens the characters— everyone here is awful and toxic but it’s not nuanced as one would like and you don’t get every’s pov so you ultimately have to chalk up a lot of their hatred for Just Because. Awful people don’t need a reason to be awful but Awful characters need the story to eventually justify their awfulness in any capacity.

Anyway, interesting story— I heard the father becomes the ML and honestly outside of the Sylvian he’s the best looking to me. I just can’t believe he’s that much of a hoe to sleep with his daughter. Men are so easy and disgusting lol.

medeva January 28, 2024 9:44 am

It sounds like he’s punished for being a terrible person by becoming a zombie and I would understand this direction but clearly seeing how most comments are now against this direction, I fear this webtoon might have made an error they didn’t expect.

If you want to narratively and thematically punish an antagonist for their actions and ultimately doom them then it’s not a good idea to have the audience invested in their story and relationships from a relatively positive angle. Along with that, we get a lot of moments from his P.O.V and he’s often given a comical light too. That can really confuse a reader on what the writer wants to say about their character.

I for one, think there’s still potential for him to be punished and have the audience side with that but I can also see a redemption. After all, if he gets punished then surely the FL has to face the brunt of consequences that she afflicted while sinking into his trap. What’s her consequence of taking a life? Even if he’s taken more, are not all lives equal? What about how ends up being sucked up into his machinations and how she is ultimately comfortable about her set up? Questions like these are important to think about but ultimately I will have to wait for webtoon to be finished to make a decision.

For the most part, I enjoyed this!

medeva January 27, 2024 10:06 pm

but they’re so messy it just can’t love these two Peak Romance

medeva January 27, 2024 9:32 pm

That’s how I felt reading Age of Arrogance. On surface, this concept is exciting as it introduces a lot of things that aren’t taken seriously in this genre of manhwa. However, it is exactly for that reason that when I feel it could’ve been executed better in different aspects I notice it more.

I’m going to be comparing this webtoon to Emperor And The Female Knight. A webtoon that has its issues but I think accomplishes far better what Age of Arrogance does. However, that webtoon has the benefit of being finished so keep that in mind.

For one, there’s an obvious angle of class and gender commentary here that I think is sorely ignored in most shoujo isekai set in these time periods simply because it would shatter escapism. It’s a lot more interesting reading these female characters and understanding that the way society is set up forces them to maneuver through this feudal patriarchy in different ways. Especially ones not so lucky as Asha, and while that might seem like a stretch.

These aspects reflect the real modern periods of their time, how nobility often uses its noble women like social currency (chattle) and the forced marriages upkeep the status and illusion of nobility. These women cannot rule through any means but their sons and thus are valued solely by what their wombs can produce, which makes the king’s decision to force Asha into a marriage in order to provide for her land far from just being a liar but rather a cruel essentialist punishment that devalues her efforts in order to put her in place (Because heterosexual marriage as it’s traditionally been practiced in this time period was not compatible with women’s social equality.)

The treatment of women here and how the women internalize that for themselves becomes glaringly obvious, from the Empress mother— to the ambitious blonde — to the mistress who is desperately trying to conceive in order to secure her life and longevity. In many ways, Asha, although unable to escape this, is considerably luckier than them.

Her situation and family had given her avenue to seek solace in violence and warfare and those are aspects men not only idolize but romanticize for themselves. It allows Asha to hold a level of agency that the others cannot have. However, this is not all glittering gold as Asha is scoffed and dehumanized by nobility solely for not adhering to the patriarchal standards here, not practicing high femininity as the others and thus lost in the middle of not being womanly enough nor manly enough.

And it is this aspect that conceptually I do like but executed I cannot hide my dissatisfaction. While all these aspects are present in the story, it’s hard to say with how much sincerity the narrative takes these issues. It’s not finished so my opinion can change but from what I’ve seen so far is a bit tepid.

For example, in appearance, I would’ve loved that if this commentary of Asha being so different was true then visually that would match. Asha for the most part doesn’t look much different from the women of the cast outside of attire and I would’ve loved if there was more distinctive traits. She’s a warrior so a bigger, toned build would’ve been amazing, maybe some scars light or deep that show her strength and resilience, and maybe less grace when it came to being feminine— she picks that up quite easily.

There are multiple moments in the story so far where Asha is feminized far more than her usual preferences and the story treats it as either her being stunning, a diamond in the rough, or comical— which goes against Asha’s own preferences. It would be one thing if Asha was fine with all this and actually enjoyed switching back and forth between high and low maintenance femininity but she makes it vocal multiple times that she actually dislikes it and finds it uncomfortable. So for the narrative to insist upon it means there’s going to be an obvious progression of Asha being more feminine assimilation.

This is something the FL in The Emperor and The Female Knight experienced as well but the approach was different. The FL isn’t continuously forced into femininity and she doesn’t assimilate fully, she is proud of how she looks and the ML who is the emperor finds that when she’s in that element to be her most beautiful. There is a specific scene about how Lucius the Emperor dislikes how the painter beautifies Paulina the FL because it’s not accurate to what she looks like, and it’s not the woman he is marrying. That’s such a small but significant statement. Paulina is not opposed to femininity as she does wear dresses but there’s a comfortability to it because she is not forced by the cast nor the narrative. It is all about her agency and I wish Asha could be afforded that same step. Instead, a lot of it feels like she’s forced into performing high femininity, because that’s what a lot of this is for women of that period— performing. If you sit in a seat spending hours putting on makeup and clothes how is that not laborious?

The scene of Asha at war is obviously her in her element and it entices the prince just as much. I would’ve loved more of that angle.

Asha reminds me a lot like Brienne and I would’ve loved to see that angle with her character more from her.

Another aspect is class commentary here, and it does go hand in hand with gender commentary. I think I’ll wait to make any comments on that until we get more chapters!

Unfortunately, I’m running out of time here but read The Emperor and The Female Knight if you want to see this done more faithfully!

    missx January 27, 2024 11:45 am

    I agree. Could have invest more on the comical aspect. This is a example of great art but lacking in story telling.

    djjjjjjjjjj February 4, 2024 5:01 am

    thanks for the recommendation! it was soooo good! 100/10 Finished it in day

    MISSMERCY February 11, 2024 2:05 pm

    Idk if I’m imagining it but I defo see the muscles in her body. Still they could be more defined

medeva January 27, 2024 12:21 am

First off, whoever is doing these scanlations is terrible. I usually wouldn’t insult something like that as I appreciate scanlators in any form but you can tell this group is half-assing it. Which only makes so much of this story so ineligible to read and understand.

What can be understood is just a hot mess of typical SI shlock. It’s so disappointing because the art and character designs look nice but you have some irritable plot choices and a FL that just annoys me personally. I cannot stand characters who are regarded as smart and intelligent but then are sorely lacking in social cues and smartness when it comes to romance.

It’s fine when it’s actually taken seriously but the narrative clearly takes it more comically like most of these shoujo isekai’s than run the same trope. I think by chapter 4 I was irritated by the fact that someone who supposedly works in customer service and is a pro at it wouldn’t be able to applicate that for her own life. I’m saying this as someone who WORKED in customer service before.

It was also annoying when it became so painfully obvious that her ass kissing to not die (I hate when authors do this it’s a cheap cut out from character progression) she inadvertently allows him to walk all over her and use her as a vessel to bully the others. I’m not saying the nobles don’t deserve it or that she could fight back on the emperor but someone as pragmatic as her would have had to have realize that a scenario like what happened in Chapter 4 was clearly the emperor fucking with her in order to antagonize his dinner guests.

That’s the whole thing, it’s so obvious the type of guy the emperor but she and the narrative insist that he’s just too hard to figure out until we see his p.o.v. Just sooooo


I kept reading and was so annoyed I thought it would get better but the comments here are telling me it doesn’t.

#OverIt

    Ur Gay February 6, 2024 2:59 pm

    Half of the speak bubbles were blank

medeva January 25, 2024 7:04 am

I like both Noah and Leo but Leo’s actually charming and Noah is just pining with no advancing. This is going to be a love square slow burn and I don’t know if I’ll have the patience for it but I guess congratulations to Noah and Lucy being endgame I guess

medeva December 14, 2023 5:07 pm

I wish I could send this personally to the author. Her leaving doesn’t even hold strong emotional weight and tension because it’s been dragged out for so long and we all know she’s going back. This story became so bloated it abandoned so many established things before to bring new conflicts that aren’t nearly as interesting.

Also she’s such a shit villainess. It’s hilarious how they gave up on that like halfway but then had the nerve to have her say shit like “it’s so hard being a villainess.” Well yeah? Because you’re not one. You can’t do heroic things that defeat the purpose of being a villainess because your morals get in the way, at most that’s an Anti Villain.

That’s what was most frustrating to me end of the day. These Villainess stories can never commit because they’re scared of their leads being unlikable yet it’s by the stagnation and wishy-washy characterization that ends up making them unlikable. It’s not even like these are villainess who are morally grey and complex, it’s just a waste all over.

I’d kill for FL who is an ACTUAL villainess, none of that fake nice or fake mean bullshit. An Actual evil, smart and ambitious woman who still wins at the end of the day. More Cersei like than anything. Ugh, these manhwas drop the ball every damn time.

    Laufiea December 14, 2023 5:53 pm

    Try Your throne

    Galvaat December 15, 2023 5:15 pm
    Try Your throne Laufiea

    BLESS YOU, I'll read that asap.

    medeva December 16, 2023 4:11 am
    Try Your throne Laufiea

    I’ve read it already lol

    Mavikelebek December 17, 2023 1:20 am
    Try Your throne Laufiea

    Can you give me the link here, i could not find here

    Forlorn December 18, 2023 12:15 am
    Can you give me the link here, i could not find here Mavikelebek

    Its also called

    I Want to Be You, Just For A Day Webtoon

    aerslevdi December 21, 2023 6:29 pm

    She was never supposed to be a villainess though? I don't think that's a valid critique when neither the OG Robellia nor the new one were villains. The new Robellia tried the stereotypes of a villainess to get away from Alexandros but it was shown that she doesn't have the hearts to be fully evil unlike Aisha. If you want questionable FL I would suggest Your Throne or Sister I am the queen in this life. The villainess turns the clock and Beware of the villainess are also interesting as in the FL is the villainess simply by being a strong FL.

    medeva December 21, 2023 7:08 pm
    She was never supposed to be a villainess though? I don't think that's a valid critique when neither the OG Robellia nor the new one were villains. The new Robellia tried the stereotypes of a villainess to get ... aerslevdi

    This is going to sound meta but I’m sure you’ll understand it: The narrative within the story for the FL didn’t frame the old Robellia as a villain but the narrative from the story we the audience are reading understand that this FL plans to subvert the in-story storyline by becoming a villainess. So I’m not criticizing the story within the story, because we haven’t read it.

    I’m criticizing what we do read and how the narrative attempts to utilize what it means to be a villainess, fails to do so, and how that is a microcosm of a bigger issue within shoujo isekais centering villains. Robellia doesn’t have what it takes to be a villainess this is true but she also hasn’t done anything to be on the level of a villainess at all.

    We all can see this, there’s a distinct difference between a character who is an antagonist and is a villain. It’s not above any of us that coincidently the female character who is a villainess along with an antagonist is the black haired girl, and she’s not a necessarily good one either. So we have a poorly written villainous who’s schemes barely make her worthy of an antagonist that they have to bring her father in and then we have a character who is not a villainous but attempts to be. The story makes that obvious as the plot goes on but my opinion is that if they dropped the villainess act completely and having the FL give up on that veneer that would actually be better character progression for her. Even before that, her attempts at being a villainous are poorly diluted to me and that’s a frustration that is directed at this manhwa but is actually addressing how this is a common trend in a lot of shoujo isekais. Imagine if the FL was a good person but in order to drive her partner away she had to become a villainess, she had to do actually terrible things to get him away from her. Not just attacking people who already deserve it but people that would make her feel morally compromised in doing so? So then there’s an inner conflict within her feeling guilt for her actions but having to decide more often what would free her from the clutches of her husband?

    Unfortunately, this manhwa is not looking to do that because that’s not the type of story it wants to tell. It’s why for all these building blocks and potential concepts, it’s quite elementary for how it tackles its subjects. The king could’ve continued to be truly tyrannical, his insistence to keep Robellia in this relationship could turn abusive and suffocating— giving us readers an understanding of her urgency to leave, the black-haired girl could’ve been smarter.. maybe taking each of her failures against the FL as a lesson where she comes back around smarter more keen and diligent. If Robellia is hard-working, then she becomes a workaholic. These are subtle but effective ways of building each character to help or block the FL in her goal, none of them happen because that’s just not the type of story being told.


    Which is okay, to each their own, but unfortunately that just makes it feel like wasted potential to me.

    medeva December 21, 2023 7:11 pm
    She was never supposed to be a villainess though? I don't think that's a valid critique when neither the OG Robellia nor the new one were villains. The new Robellia tried the stereotypes of a villainess to get ... aerslevdi

    Also, I have read all the manhwa you’ve recommended I don’t think Beware of the villainess is what I’m aiming for. It’s not about being strong, it’s about being morally grey or black— again someone like Cersei.

    aerslevdi December 23, 2023 8:05 pm
    This is going to sound meta but I’m sure you’ll understand it: The narrative within the story for the FL didn’t frame the old Robellia as a villain but the narrative from the story we the audience are rea... medeva

    You are absolutely right. TBH I'm just rage reading this at this point when I realised the ML is the emperor. I never really expected her to go through with the villainess act but now that that's gone, all the faults in the other characters are showing. The antagonist not being a competent villain, her falling in love for a man she knows is freaking abusive. It's kinda disappointing when her character started out strong. Specially when she doesn't even get a reason for dropping the act. She just forgets about it and this just adds to this story feeling like all the others which is a shame since it had potential

    aerslevdi December 23, 2023 8:08 pm
    Also, I have read all the manhwa you’ve recommended I don’t think Beware of the villainess is what I’m aiming for. It’s not about being strong, it’s about being morally grey or black— again someone ... medeva

    Oh I see. I suggested "Beware if the villainess" because she's a villain simply for not taking shit from anyone and being her own person. Obviously that's not a villain, but for shoujo standards, she totally would be. It's kinda hard to find FL committed to being morally grey. The only to examples I can think of are Your Throne and Sister I'm the queen in this life. I thought "My nemesis" and "Wished you were dead" would have given me a good grey FL but it wasn't meant to be :/

    medeva December 24, 2023 7:51 am
    You are absolutely right. TBH I'm just rage reading this at this point when I realised the ML is the emperor. I never really expected her to go through with the villainess act but now that that's gone, all the ... aerslevdi

    Yeah, I agree! There’s so much potential it feels like they underplayed it? I feel like maybe because the rating is pretty low that’s why the story feels shallow? Maybe if this story was 19+ it would be a lot more grittier and challenging? I also agree, I wasn’t into the Emperor being the ML but I thought they could maybe do something interesting with that but it’s dragging too much and there’s no appeal in it in my opinion. I also binged read in a couple days so my review was a bit of a vent rant I apologize!

    medeva December 24, 2023 7:53 am
    Oh I see. I suggested "Beware if the villainess" because she's a villain simply for not taking shit from anyone and being her own person. Obviously that's not a villain, but for shoujo standards, she totally wo... aerslevdi

    I agree and I’ve read all of those! I really hope something comes a long because I think the genre can get quite stale when there’s not much changing. Also, this might be my own opinion but I think the quality of the art for this manhwa declined as I kept reading…. but maybe I’m being too bitter and hateful? I don’t know, disappointed either way!

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