
I don’t understand putting up with someone you hate for a job. If someone said “we were friends” about me when they hurt me, I would correct them even in front of others. “No, you make a living nightmare out of my life and I don’t want anything to do with you.” Is all they will get from me. No goodbye either. If the boss or coworker thinks I’m being rude, they can live through what that person put me through. Otherwise, they can shut up. I’m more than happy to go to HR for hostile workplace environment because a coworker or boss is trying to force a friendship with a former bully. I don’t understand people who aren’t. I get that it’s scary but no job is worth reliving trauma. Trauma is worse than the anxiety you feel when you say your piece. I say that as someone who has had this situation happen. Don’t back down.

Hmm well I never thought about it as "putting up with someone you hate for a job." It's more like, "it was my job first, so they can leave." Letting someone you hate cause you to leave somewhere you already were, is the same as letting them control you. Sure they aren't the ones making that decision, but they are still the reason. And sometimes it's not easy to "just leave" somewhere you worked hard to get into. You struggled, you found a solution, they interrupted. They should just go back to where they came from and let you have your place. And the MC would have trouble finding another job in that field as it is, so having that job, through connections, probably is seen as being a miracle to him. He gets to do what he loves and wants to do, despite having been troubled in the past. When you work hard to get ONE thing that feels right, it's really hard to let it go just because you are uncomfortable. And if you mean the reason he left his last job, sometimes it just works out like that. If they want to believe someone else over you, you can yell and scream until you are clue in the face but you aren't changing their minds and just making it worse for yourself by making the situation bigger and harder to overcome. Not saying that how you feel is wrong. I would probably smile on the surface and then complain to my work friends later about what a piece of trash he is. However, he seems like he has a reputation and already has a viewpoint that people follow, so anything I say would just make me look crazy, I'm sure. xD

Yeah but it’s not really about who started first in my mind. My mental health means more to me than any job or person so I’m happy to quit anything and anyone if it means my mental health survives. It’s fragile and needs the best care. Also if stating that someone hurt me and I don’t want anything to do with them will make me lose my job, i don’t want that job. My managers and my company should want to keep me safe and if they don’t, it’s not a good company to work at. That’s how I view it. I also don’t work hard at my job because I enjoy it. I work hard at my job because it makes me feel productive and I get money at the end of the month so I can do things that make me happy. As long as I get money at the end of the month in relation to the BS I had to put up with while at work, I’m happy. The company won’t pay me a BS bonus whenever I face a past bully so why suck it up? My time isn’t being compensated.

Yeah I totally get that. But as someone who has serious mental health issues, I've learned to cope with having mental health issues and work through them. Having a stable job, place to live and money to maintain that place to live, they are not things I can easily throw away just for my mental health. Not after 30 years of BS to even get that far on my own. xD There will be BS anywhere and everywhere. It doesn't matter if you have the best job in the world or the worst, you can't let BS tell you where to go or you'll be struggling more than you won't be and THAT'S NOT GOOD for mental health. Honestly, this situation looks temporary to me, ex's there for a job, not a permanent position, so he'd eventually be leaving. And yes, I know he's going to be a jerk and harass the MC. Because that's how he already seems. And 100% I wouldn't take that laying down, but I also wouldn't out him in front of a bunch of people who may or may not take my side and who might just start rumors instead. I would take care of it quietly, with someone of authority who can handle it, just as quietly. I probably would have done it BEFORE he started his position there and not waited until I had to face him face to face, but this is fiction and they need their drama cliches. And it's not like he's alone, dealing with a bully. He has a friend at work and a place to return to for comfort. If the job becomes a permanent thing and he's not going anywhere, 100% leave. But put up a helluva fight first. He's already seen what trying to explain himself did at his last job so he's taking a low road. I don't see it as giving up, I see it as a passive way of survival. And I 100% understand that not everyone thinks or feels this way. When you are broken and bruised enough that even getting out of bed to live another day is a struggle, you don't make the best decisions when it comes to surviving, you just react and kinda go with the flow. I also think your way of thinking is very brave. Not everyone has enough in them to be that brave.

I also have a lot of serious mental health conditions as well as physical disabilities. If this was 30 years ago, I wouldn’t have been able to be this decisive about leaving a job over issues like this but since working conditions in the uk has improved and we have a ton of labour laws including anti-discrimination policies, I have the privilege of being able to do it. I left one job because they asked me to come into an office when I had Covid and the guidelines was self isolation for 14 days. I reported them to the labour board. I’m very strait laced when it comes to the law. I’ll bend every soft rule and I’ll utilise every loophole I can but I will never enable law breaking. My mental health comes above the law imo but the law comes above all else. I’m entitled to certain things BY LAW and I’ll be damned if an employer tries to skirt their legal duty to me. You say it’s brave but I’m just being a law abiding citizen.

I totally agree with that. And that's great for you! That actually makes me happy that it worked out. Working conditions are a different story. If a job has poor working conditions or fails to give me even basic rights, that's a no. Which is also another reason finding a job you click with is so rare and hard to leave. My coworkers are more like my family than my real family ever was. And they actually help my mental health more than anything, myself included. Any other job I have worked was just "I can't wait to go home". And it was miserable. If my ex suddenly got hired at my job now, we would have words. But it wouldn't be in front of anyone else because it's not their issue to be involved in. I'd be making their life miserable internally until they wanted to quit. Haha I don't think MC has such a rapport yet with his co-workers though and the other guy has more rapport. But I also know what it feels like to not have a choice or anywhere else to go. You also do a lot of crazy things when you think there is no other options. Things are a LOT better now as far as that goes, but not in all places. It's also hard to change a way you're used to living when you have done it for so long. I'm autistic but was not diagnosed until late adult life because it was not something so recognized before. I still fight with my mother over my way of thinking and my behaviors because she doesn't recognize that it is a thing that exists and chooses not to understand me. I worked hard as hell to get this far and away from people like that. But still, the first time someone asked me why I do something and the words "I'm autistic" came out of my mouth, it felt wrong and I immediately wanted to take it back. xD It's hard to think of it differently even though the world has changed when you have thought one way all your life.

He said military right? So guns do exist in this universe right? Can’t they just shoot them both? I don’t really understand the hold up. A gun is fast.

The doctor is not a guide. He is an espers under the guise of the guide. He went missing then slipped inside the center three years ago. He controlled half of the center's guides and can make the guides kill themselves. So the guides are the leverage against the espers rn. They can't kill the doc and forced into negotiation

I TOLD YOU SO! He’s a horrible horrible creature. Monster mugo who only lives to feast is better than him and jerk mugo is the best. He’s rude and abrasive because THATS HOW HE SURVIVED THIS LONG not because he’s an asshole by nature. He protects himself and his home and his sacrifices.

No he doesn't, the only reason he is protecting his sacrifice now is because he can't eat him. Are we forgetting that there were sacrifices before him and they're dead? None of the Mugos are saints, they are all bad and messed up. He literally raped Jaheon multiple times. Idk I just can't forgive that man.

Did you forget the part where he mentioned that the head of the village would kill the sacrifices if they were returned? That means he literally tried to return sacrifices and they still died. At least by dying to him, he managed to allow them an “honourable” death because they completed their mission. Also this is an omegaverse story. It’s so rare to find out without SA and he’s a god not a human so assume that normal morals don’t apply. I mean most of the Greek gods either assaulted others or they hurt others and Zeus is the worst of the lot. Poseidon isn’t much better. It’s fine if you hate his actions because I hated that too but I’m still gonna give credit where credit is due. I can hate one action and still praise another. Everyone was saying sir mugo is the best and wouldn’t hurt anyone and they wanting him the most and I said that he’s manipulative and not a good person. My point still stands. I told everyone that sir mugo was bad news and he was and I said that jerk mugo (who isn’t even called jerk mugo but dubious mugo) was actually protecting his sacrifice AND HE WAS! He’s an alpha and a god and yet he still is doing things here and there for a mortal omega sacrifice to help him live there comfortably despite not trusting him fully.

I find praising Lord Mugo for doing the bare minimum of not raping him is actually insane. Also just because the rape trope is normalized doesn't mean it's ok. There are plenty of stories where gods don't rape their other person, just not many. I still stand by what I said that the Mugos should die, the family fall apart and Jaheon finds someone new. Bro is traumatized enough, the author made it seem like him as an omega has to be accepting of the fact that his body isn't his and being raped is ok because hes just a sacrifice, or at least that's what I'm getting from it. Lord Mugo doesn't even have a real arc where he changes, he just gets possessive and has sex. The story hasn't gotten that far, but dang at least let bro think about love and not obsession. And yes SOME people were deceived by Sir Mugo, but that's like the point... Also he was once human, his morals shouldn't be that twisted unless he raped past Jaheon into loving him then. Just because he's a god doesn't excuse his actions. Free Jaheon form ALL this!!

Sorry for jumping in to the conversation, I agree that this story could be a LOT better without the r*pe. But I don't agree with your point about the Mugo's. In most stories (including the folklores because I'm a folklore nerd from a certain culture), 'gods' and 'demons' aren't restricted by human moral code or even bound by normal human emotions, tho of course there are certain cultures that depicts their gods as being all righteous. In this case, Mugo was an evil spirit before becoming an incomplete god, meaning his morals are twisted beyond measure during the 'confinement', more than that he has gone mad. I had a suspicion that he got worse even before that since his personality has already branched during when he was sealed. And if Jaheon really is the reincarnation of Mugo's loved one, the reason why he went into madness in the first place, then his obsession makes sense. I'm talking about attachment to the soul here. This doesn't mean I think nothing of some of his despicable actions towards Jaheon, just that I feel the need to put some context for god archetypes

Well I get that, but it's just so twisted that I hate it and plays into the rape trope that is so heavy in omegaverses right now and I really don't like it. At least let there be an actual love story that is developing outside of sex and obsession. Sex and trauma is kind of like the only way they are actually falling for each other. Like, why. I get that they are both traumatized but when is the story actually going to show us their development as not only individuals but as a couple. They need communication, and a restart of some sort. The circumstances they met under are unfortunate, and I still want Mugo to die and Jaheon to be free. That's just what I would like, I know the story will go a different route but that's just me. Also F them rapists.

And this is why we have to understand that not every story has to cater to our taste. If we don't feel like it's not our cup of tea, better stop reading it and find something else that might satisfy our palate. That's the most logical solution, because we can't force authors to write stories that we like. Some authors like to write wholesome stories, and some prefers to explore the taboo, that's just how it is in literature, even with published books.

Obviously I know not every story will be to my liking, I was just saying that I didn't like some of the tropes and things going on. I was only stating my opinion and take on the story. I still want to know how the story will end, I'm just not as invested in it anymore. Also exploring the taboo can mean so many things, and I just hope that you don't mean stuff that will cause you to end up prison.

And how will fiction can end you in prison? If it's not plagiarism, or an actual portrayal of csam, or something like that, then it's legal to write about anything. I hope you know this fact. There's no law that protects the rights of fictional characters since they aren't real, you know that right? And it's because I know that the story's not to your liking that's why I said that. All I wrote is that if you realize it's not your cup of tea or there's some elements that trigger you, it's better to stop. If you still want to continue, then you know the risk. From here on out, it's equal to have a dead dove do not eat tag

I know that. I meant things like graphic images concerning children, gruesome depictions of sa, stuff like that. I know it won't land you in prison for reading and writing them, I meant the actual action will land you in prison. I guess I should have clarified. Some of those taboo things are for weirdos and people who have disgusting fetishes. So I'm saying it'd be better to clarify or pick out what you are talking about when it comes to taboo. It's weird to talk about using the fact of it being fiction as an excuse to read and write about certain things. I probably came off as rude with how I started before with how i started my previous message, my bad. Also I don't dislike the story, I dislike certain elements of it....alot of elements, but like I said I still want to know the ending. Maybe pop in every once in a while.

Hmm so you're the type to judge people based on what they read. Let me ask you this, do people who like reading wholesome stories all have better morals in real life and can do no wrong compared to those who like taboo or dark stories? Is there a 100% guarantee that they are all righteous people who have never hurt a single person whether with words or actions? For me personally, it's idiotic to judge people based on what they read as a means of escapism rather than their actions and decisions irl.
For example, there's this politician whose hobby is reading manga like doraemon but their actions have proved to corrupt the democracy of a certain country. You might think that I'm exaggerating, but this is what actually happened in real time as we speak. So idt calling people weirdos or freaks for their fictional preferences is wise; it's a language of high school bullies. This is a reminder for all, me included.
Moreover, fiction is where people can safely explore themes that they won't get near irl. It's also where victims of all kinds of abuse process their trauma as a lot of psychiatrists said. And this goes without saying that fiction is where people draw the line; normal people with basic decency wouldn't adopt or practice the taboo in their real life, or else they would need professional help or land in jail like you said.

You're weird and gross trying to justify people reading stuff like. Just because they don't do it irl doesn't mean anything at all. Reading and watching it is saying you have a desire or like the concept of it most of the time. I'm done arguing with you because you're disgusting. You're first statement in the third paragraph tells me all I need to know about you. All I'm hearing is you excusing pedophilia and other actions like rape, murder etc., by saying its OK because it's fiction or a fantasy of theirs or it's fine once it's not irl. You're weird!!

This is precisely why I said you're like high school bullies, being petty over fictional stuff and demeaning people over what they read. You just strawman-ed what I said and get all defensive by yourself. Your way of thinking is too shallow for a grown adult and you're barely knowledgeable about what you were talking about. Your arguments are too childish and don't even make sense. I hope you're not a minor because well, a minor reading adult stuff? That'd be even worse

I'm not bullying anyone by expressing my concerns for certain things. Arguing with you was like talking to a brick wall. You keep saying that it's ok to read and write any and everything but it's not. I agree that people have the freedom to read anything they want but why would you want to read or write about those kinds of things? Yes I am judging because I think you sound like a pedophile trying to excuse reading mangas about children. You keep beating around the bush saying fiction isn't reality, but sometimes those fiction depicted are other people's reality and it's not ok to fetishize things like that just because it tickles your fancy. Also you're last statement is weird. You're saying that minors watching adult stuff is worse than adults watching minor stuff? Cause that's all I'm hearing. I don't think I'm strawmaning anything, I understand what you're trying to say, but from the beginning you should've been more specific because people's minds can go anywhere and think the absolute worse. I'm also not because I'm just addressing what you said and saying my take on it. You're not even addressing the fact that taboo Mangas or taboo anything can mean disgusting and horrible things at all. You just keep saying it's ok because it's fiction. That's weird.

If you feel this way, stop reading. Seriously. Why are you being childish? If this book isn’t for you then it’s not for you. If you can’t get over this one plot point that not a single soul here likes, then you should just drop the book. This isn’t even about character’s morals anymore. This is about you not being able to live up to your own standards and taking it out on the rest of us. The fact that you are still reading means that you, like the rest of us, have ambiguous morals where the world is in shades of gray and we do whatever we feel like at the moment. You can’t be the moral police if you won’t first police yourself. Instead of arguing with random people on the internet for sharing a differing opinion than you in a rude and antagonistic way, you should be an adult and remove yourself from the situation. And if you aren’t an adult, you shouldn’t be here.

You know taboo can include a lot of things depending on where people are coming from, but I find it weird that you keep coming back to sexual stuff. I don't think I have to go into details about that since it's common sense. Also yes, you used strawman fallacy, either you couldn't read my statements or it was the best you could come up with. Do you even know what I was saying? You should RESPECT other people and doct act like a pathetic bully, yet not only did you avoid my previous questions, but you also keep thinking you have the moral superiority. You think what you like and what you think is the truth and the best.
"I hate this thing, people who like this are the weird ones, it must be the truth because I said so" That's what you sounded. Even the professionals need a lot of careful observations to know what another person is like, but what you did is, again, like a bully. What did a bully do? They demean and degrade people because of trivial things; tastes, preferences, looks, the way they talk. Do you think a bully only harrass their victims over actions alone? No, you acting so demeaning and calling people names when they're just minding their own business is also bullying. Also you keep saying that it's not alright to write taboo topics? I'm sorry, are you the law? Who are you to decide such things? Gosh, the self-centeredness. Get off this site and do your homework, kid

I really hope they're not a minor, because the kr manhwa official site itself requires people to be 20 yo to be reading stories with adult content. But on thing is for sure, they take their own opinion as the sole truth, and doesn't bother to research things. If you find that person uncomfortable, I'll suggest to block them. I'm also considering that, like who knows, maybe they really are a minor

Good call! I don't trust people who think they are morally superior than others. I've met countless people like that and usually it's the other way around. Besides, they don't have the rights to talk about morals when they still treat others like shit. What happened to treating others the way you want to be treated

Can we normalise not hounding for autographs outside of designated autograph spaces? Can we not treat celebs like they aren’t humans who deserve privacy? Like if you want to ask ONCE, that’s fine and whatever their answer is, immediately accept it. Don’t bargain, don’t beg, don’t annoy. It’s their JOB. Imagine you went to work and a customer favoured you over your coworkers and then started coming up to you OUTSIDE OF WORK HOURS. Wouldn’t you consider that to be stalking? If they saw you and just decided to say hi, that’s fine but if they tried to strike up a long conversation or ask for a photo or ask for your number or for you to LITERALLY SIGN YOUR SIGNATURE ON A PIECE OF PAPER, you would run to the police. Don’t think for a second that it’s normal behaviour to hound someone you don’t know personally (or even if you do know them personally) to sign a piece of paper. Mincheol isn’t even a celeb, he’s a semi-famous civilian with a civilian job. You can and will be charged for stalking and harassment. Please no one do this irl unless the person themselves consents to this treatment.

Woowon has always managed on his own and every traumatic thing he’s experienced, he’s brushed off. Now that he’s in a warm and safe environment with someone he can depend on and has been depending on, he can’t just brush it off anymore. I’m sure he doesn’t really understand that how he lived before is why he’s struggling so much now. To borrow words from Sakura-kun, If you’ve lived your whole life on a tight rope where falling off equals death and every step hurts, then taking a step off feels like dying even if that step off leads you to a better and safer and happier life. Seoan is now his plush grassy ground but he’s still coming to terms with the fact that the floor will not open up and kill him. Therapy can’t exactly teach you how to depend on others. This is something he needs to figure out on his own. Therapy can help with his grief and talking through his trauma but as someone who went to therapy for cptsd (the type he has rn), I can tell you that the thing that helped me most wasn’t a shrink telling me to “imagine each thought is a bus and I can decide which bus I can get on” but rather someone caring for me and making me feel safe and secure in their presence to the point that I felt comfortable working through my trauma on my own with them as support. I’m not 100% healed but I’m to the point where I’m not getting flashbacks or scared by the tiniest of things.
Disclaimer: I do think therapy is important and if you are struggling with mental health, please seek out a medical professional. Do not try to DIY therapy without a licensed therapist discharging you.
Daichi needs to shut his jealous trap unless he wants to shove his own foot in there.