nice, just end up fucking/loving someone who literally poisoned you and abused you, how do people think this a good romance?
I like the MC, unlike a lot of BLs where the MLs give them shit because they are gay and the MCs sit there and take it, this one defends himself
surprisingly, this manhwa is really good, I don't know why people are not talking about it, also for the ones rather than give one star and say "It's shitt" explain why it's shit. and honestly, I enjoyed the chapters about the fucked couple godman that was dark.
I am now traumatized from that shot show and pre traumatized for the major’s reaction when he finds out (⊙…⊙ )
THANK YOU. I finally found a good ass reader. This shit is a wonderfully executed psychological drama and dark romance. To the point where i wish it was an actual tv series HONESTLY. I WOULD WATCH THE FUCK OUTTA OF THIS AND CONVERGE PEOPLE TO LIKE IT RIGHT ALONG WITH ME. (ಠ_ಠ)
Gonna talk considering what is popular on this website and amongst BL fans on twitter:
Ppl ain't talking about it because the MCs ain't fucking all the time and it has a plot that actually needs ppl to pay attention instead of just looking at pretty images.
"it's shit" because they can't keep up with a plot that's more than *A wants to date B and maybe C likes one of them* or because there's no constant explicit sex.
I've seen multiple people on this very website give 1/5 star because "it's shounen-ai" "there's no sex" and even (this was so funny) "they only kissed in the last chapter, how's this BL?" on the most tooth rotting romantic GAY BLs just because they were for all ages.
Like, those are the ones that get really popular: stereotypical disgusting seme, lots of abuse, cheap/mediocre plot, or even an interesting plot that's buried by constant smut and is regarded twice every ten chapters.
It will still take a while until the BL fans open up to BLs where sex and romance are not the sole main themes and everything else is secondary or dependant on it.
This is a gay romance being treated like straight romance is in adventure/action/mystery/etc stories and I think this is fucking amazing! Unfortunately, I also don't think people are ready for it, if I'm being honest. This is an amazing story, but non-BL fans will stay away from it because it's BL, while BL fans stay away because it's not BL enough.
Like, this story could still be told without the main couple romance, the only romance needed to the plot is between Eddie and Daniel (
I was a calling it a shitshow in reference to how the former Jungan guy lost his arms in the attack orchestrated by Eddie, had to get unfeeling robot arms to recover, became a hit man, engaged in trauma fueled sexual acts with his protectee, literally killed his protectee with his bare hands after finding out he was the one who killed Jungan (justified), then both fucking and dating his resurrected robot body and creating a toxic codependency with him as they galavant across the world together while the major is still desperately looking for Justice/vengeance/closure against his new psycho bf.
Top tier analysis (ಠ_ಠ)
Also top tier deductice reasoning ( ˙ε . )
well, that's why their relationship messed up, I rather have two parties where they are toxic toward each other and both are insane than only one being insane and another one having to deal with his shit i.e. (Every BL in existence). but lol yeah I'm sure the major’s reaction wouldn't be great *gulp* especially since I think he had a crush on him in the past.
like I see a lot of people complain about BL not having a plot, but when there is BL with a plot no one notices it. I wish people just turn their horney knob off and enjoy the story and character development for them to be finally a couple. GL has a unique plot where characters get development along their adventure, and straight romance has that, but BL always has to be stuck with the mafia plot where the characters have to fuck every 3 chapters. like seriously how people don't get tired of that? especially with mafia stories.
Can you recommend some good GL? BL definitely has a lot of toxic tropes so you have to filter through them to find the decent stuff, but a lot of GL I’ve tried to read has either been so excruciatingly slow that barely anything happened by 20 chapters in, had absolutely no interesting or enjoyable characters (I get characters will have flaws, but there has to be something compelling about them) , or was just mindless smut catering to straight men.
- Her ShimCheong
- Opium
- Kimi to Tsuzuru Utakata
- Getting to Know Grace
- The Magical Revolution of the Reincarnated Princess and the Genius Young Lady
- Do You Think Someone Like You Could Defeat the Demon Lord?
- Run Away With Me, Girl
- Kimi ga Shinu made Koi wo shitai
just a fair warning most of those are plot-focus rather than romance. romance is secondary in most of these recommendations. but I recommend starting with Her ShimCheong and Run Away With Me, Girl as a warm-up, plus they were created for women by women, Run Away With Me, Girl is Josei.
Thank you!!!
lol this is the first Manhua/manga/manhwa that made my PC work this hard and it didn't even load
Reminds me of Throw Away the Suit Together, though Throw Away the Suit Together is far better written than this manga. Honestly, if the ML didn't rape the MC, I would have sympathized with him because I relate to him. I live in a country where finding a decent job is really, REALLY hard, so most of us here are unemployed or work for dirt-cheap salaries. The money isn't even enough for rent, food, and transportation, so you still need your parents to send you money. Anyway, I understand the feeling of guilt for not contributing to society.
call me sensitive but I think it's insensitive of the author to make Seme (who I want to see have his head smashed under a fucking rock soo badly but of course, we are not having that since in BL we always want our Seme to be a mary-sue for the people to salivate after him god forbid a weakness that isn't the uke) destroy a gay bar(since gay bars known with shootings) where people are still there because his sorry ass couldn't handle seeing the MC go there. like can we have a BL with both characters are nice people using their power for good rather than have one psychopath and one "good person", straight stuff has that, and GL has that, but every BL that has a plot the seme always has to be selfish a prick
Well, the uke isn't a good person either, if you think about it.
People ... Seme is an orphaned vampire who saw his parents getting murdered in front of him as a kid. Uke was probably forced to work as a vampire hunter since werewolves and vampires are mortal enemies but he didn't want to become a breeder and escaped. So far uke does not seem as a bad person (he even spared the kid). Seme is a complex character, very damaged from what happened and easy to kill but for a vampire at least he doesn't go around killing for blood
he literally killed and destroyed a gay bar because the MC goes there I rather see him kill for blood (to survive) than kill because he is throwing a tantrum for MC not noticing him
at least he doesn't destroy buildings, and I put good person in quotation marks because most of the MCs are not good either but the authors are trying to tell us something else.
I never thought it was the same author of " A Shoulder to Cry On". Anyway, the manhwa is giving me the vibe of dramatical murder
daaaaamn i didn't notice that at all but makes sense she loves sad monologs
There are two types of reviews of this manga: those who hate it and those who love it. Honestly, I feel in the middle. While I cried while reading the manga, I'm conflicted about it.
-I'm glad the author made the pedophile guy a selfish scumbag. While Jun was mourning his dead friend, the guy somehow made it about himself. He didn't even bother to console Jun; all he thinks about is his dick. I'm glad Jun realized that.
-To be honest, I didn't like Miura much, unlike the fujoshi in 'Here U Are.' She didn't realize her mistake, and she didn't get any character development. She still ships her friends and thinks of them as subjects of her fantasy instead of human beings. I wish she would stop comparing real gay people with her BLs. I know the author is a gay man, but come on man.
-I disagree with the translators. What that guy ended up doing was fucking horrible. Yes, what Jun said to him was shitty, but it doesn't justify him outing Jun and bringing up that he is gay every time he shows up, bullying him for being gay. That was disgusting.
-I liked Jun and Mr. Fahrenheit. It sucks that we didn't see him alive. My problem with LGBTQ+ mangas is that they always make the MC boring. Jun was different. I love his crude moments, and his inner monologues are sometimes funny. I also liked his interaction with Mr. Fahrenheit.
-While I hate pedophilia and stuff, I'm not going to pretend age gaps don't happen in the queer community. It's hard to find someone your age who is queer in a conservative country, so you have to consider people older than you. It sucks that some creeps take advantage of that, so I don't fully blame the author for touching on this subject.
-I pretty much relate to Jun with his queer experience, self-hate, and wondering why we are here, lol. So yeah, this manga made my depression even worse.
Damn, at this rate, the authors like to add a decent second male lead just to torture their readers. I hope he won't be dead in future chapters. Since this is a BL, I'm sure the white-haired guy will be the endgame. How the fuck will the MC forgive the guy for killing his brother? That would be so frustrating to witness.
im still hoping for the director to be the endgame TT mc lowk doesnt deserve him bc of how much of a pushover he is with minhyung but hopefully thatll change
Not brother, lover. Namhyun was Yijae’s lover.
both. they are not brothers by blood but they are from the same orphanage also the manhwa keep telling us that they were brothers
Which chapter tells us that they’re from the same orphanage? And whose is they?
please reread the story everyone says they are brothers in the comments are all of us hallucinating? "they" are the white-haired guy the guy that is dead and the MC what are you getting at? I swear every guy on this damn website wants to fight
We haven’t even gotten Namhyun backstory yet. People assume that Minhyun is Yijae’s brother. But Namhyun and Yijae are LOVERS!!!! Are you talking about the word Hyung? Do you not know the word Hyung? They don’t have to be blood related for a person to call another Hyung. And you can’t even tell me the chapter you read that Namhyun and Yijae are brothers. Because it hasn’t happened yet! Not even in the raws!
damn, he went from I'm not gay to dating my childhood guy friend to getting dumped by my boyfriend to finding another boyfriend in Light speed. tbh that's what it's like to be a teenager
True people saying wataru is at fault and all not everyone are so sure of their own self in teenage, it's changing phase of life meeting new people with different dynamic make changes in your character especially when one tend to make one in your life in bold behaviour like this uke did.
most people are not sure of themselves for who they are when they are teenagers. I know people think that queer people notice their sexuality from birth, but some of us take really really long time to notice it, I noticed I'm gay till I was 23.
True , I m straight but I have male gay best friend he didn't realise he was gay till he entered 20s now he has bf people are just not so sure sometimes also it's hard to figure out till they get into a environment where they can open up themselves life is all about exploring yourself and how much limitations you can made for yourself only by figuring out.