NanoFateHK33

I hate thattttt sm

Never been in a position like this but at their age, yeah, hugging between bestfriends (man and woman at that) is a big deal. And we all know there's this, "he/she's just my bestfriend" then proceeds to pick that bff over you. Smth like that. Its in their age, puberty.

no, it's really not, in my teenage years I hugged my friends all the time they weren't even my best friends, why should we sexualize everything? platonic relationships exist. and that is why guys and women have awkward relationships with each other because of thoughts like that. Also, gay people exist? you are literally reading a manhwa about that, why do we have friendships with same-sex where it's fine if we hug but straight people don't with the opposite sex?

Chanil doesn't know cirrus and ri-in are that close, he just knows they are friends but cirrus and ri-in never gave details to chan-il and they agreed that they won't reveal what kind of relationship cirrus and ri-in actually have

Chan-il's reaction is valid and understandable, cirrus is avoiding him and chan-il doesn't know the reason or he can only guess why cirrus avoids him. When you have a friend that barely opens up to you and they do shit that you don't know that they can do, of course you'll have doubts. Chan-il barely knows the real cirrus, cirrus barely opens up, ofc he's gonna think that way

You also forget the fact they lived their lives in Korea which being LGBTQ is a taboo and looked down upon. Even though they all know that gay ppl exists they won't acknowledge that because it's not a norm. AND it's a stereotype I think our society needs to change too, being friends between opposite sex doesn't always mean it's in romantic applications, but we live in a society that thinks being friendly with the opposite sex is enough to say that you like that person romantically which I can say it's a problem but that's how ppl view that even in this day and age.

he still knows they are friends. also, Cirrus literally appear in distress why he would fuck someone when he clearly looks so depressed, and where the girl literally rushed because she looked worried, and why the fuck Cirrus will introduce them to each other if he liked the girl.

as I said it's looked like she was consoling a friend rather than cheating

They are friends BUT WHAT KIND OF FRIENDS EXACTLY?, chan-il is also in distress, so idk if he would really care if cirrus has an urgent thing going on ABT that's prolly not important in his mind. Ri-in immediately left without looking up from her phone, how could he make up an expression from her, why else would he be acting normal when she left the restaurant and leaving her bag outside her apartment happily while thinking about her?. Sure he thought it was weird that she left early but he prolly thinks it was urgent and he would ask about that later. And the question about why would cirrus introduce ri-in to him if cirrus likes ri-in, if chan-il overthinks he'll prolly think cirrus started developing feelings for ri-in while she was in a relationship with chan-il, or idk anything can happen.

Seeing a friend and your girlfriend hugging in the middle of the night outside while the other is crying and the other is caressing his cheek? If I didn't know cirrus was gay I would prolly thought ri-in was cheating too in chan-il's perspective. The fact you barely know your own bestfriend too, it's natural to have some doubts about them if they really are a good person or a bad person behind their back.

she rushed where she said are you joking where she was clearly worried and her voice was shaking where he was looking at her face, not something that struck me rushing out of happiness she literally wouldn't leave her boyfriend alone if it wasn't something urgent,

so are you saying if your friend got beaten by his father or his dad died you won't be touching him? you would give him a hand shake?

dog dead*

dog died* goddamit

i meant to dislike

it's there hon you gave me a dislike rest assured

Lmfaooo!! Preach!!

Ngl, I agree with u that Chan-il has been mad annoying like if someone is obviously avoiding you, have some dignity and ignore them too. But looking at the situation of Chan-il who’s been over thinking for who knows how long, I HIGHLY doubt he’s looking at anything from a rational standpoint. Am I defending him for attacking Cirrus like that? No. Not a chance in hell. But I think it’s obvious that Chan-il isn’t looking at those details and is coming up with his own train of thought.

Based on your response, you read this and the encounters in here solely limited to your perspective. However, on a wider sense, not everyone is like you. Most common than not, people get jealous over heterogenous friendships especially when the person involved in the romantic relationship is in a heterogenous relationship. Second, yes this is a "bl manhwa", however, it is a "manhwa". Do the characters know its supposed to be bl manhwa? No. Does Chan Il know Cirrus is gay? No. Have you ever had a brother or have evrr been in thr mind of boys/men to know that even for friendships, a fight could start with jealousy?

There's a lot of realism in here which does not, obviously, fit your perspective, or so much more it seems, which you are unaware of. I hope you could read this more with an open mind. And with the thought that not all stories (may it be fictional or real life) is limited to your experiences alone.

Happy reading.

I'm talking here about your opinion, the "And we all know there's this, "he/she's just my best friend" then proceeds to pick that bff over you" seems like talking about your opinion. also just because he thinks a girl and boy can't hug each other if it is not romantic because it is society's norm, it's not any less annoying. Also, I wish he asked his girlfriend first before being violent and asking the guy he knows that he wouldn't answer his question. of course, I know guys who fought over a woman that why I'm finding Chan il annoying right now also because they never ask about the woman's opinion in the first place.

I'm not finding him annoying because of that I just find him annoying because I find him annoying. While at first it was normal for him not to think rationally but it already passed a lot of time since he had a chance to think rationally about it before he became violent. he knows Cirrus has a rough home life because he witnessed his father abusing him + he knows Cirrus and Ri-in are friends and know each other + Ri-in was clearly worried when she left he was looking at her face + Cirrus looked depressed when she was hugging him. it was easy to put 2 +2 together really.

i think the flashback is going to clear up why chan il got so upset esp considering all the things his friends were saying abt cirrus and how he stood up for him saying "he's not a bad guy" + he doesn't know HOW close cirrus and ri-in are because they literally kept it a secret on purpose he probably went to cirrus abt it first because he has more reason to be suspicious of cirrus than he does of ri-in given the things he has heard abt cirrus and how cirrus has been treating him as of late

he introduced them to each other? how he didn't know about their friendship or at least how he didn't know that they knew each other. I'm sorry he should have brought it up first to the girl he is dating before Cirrus, I don't know what you mean by "went to Cirrus about it first because he has more reason to be suspicious of Cirrus than he does of Ri-in" if she is cheating then she is cheating they are both guilty, they are both suspicious. if he is acting this way based on rumors then he is no better than the characters that we are supposed to dislike.

to be fair yeah maybe he didn't know they were friends but why would he assume they were cheating rather than friends consoling each other? my other points still stand.

Nvm man . “Easy to but 2+2 together really” It’s like talkin to a brick wall .

then why are replying if it's "Nvm man" did you expect me to switch my opinion lol? I also feel like I'm talking to a brick wall it's amazing how you all expect me to say "I agree" while you get stuck on your opinions and you won't agree with me

That other person was wrong. Chan-Il does not know they're close friends. He thinks they're classmates.

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/cloud_1/uu/br_chapter-131081/pg-14/

Right there Cirrus told her to not say they were close friends

No, you're right. Chan-il doesn't know they're close friends. Cirrus told Ri-in to not say they were.

(I literally scrolled all the way back to this chapter)

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/cloud_1/uu/br_chapter-131081/pg-14/

I already corrected my self

also and? okay he didn't know that they are friends so they dating, got it

Exactly, so obviously he'd be tense if the guy who introduced him (techinally) to Ri-in suddenly was hugging her and walking into an apartment together + the way Cirrus was being held in her hands. Let's also not forget, Chan-il doesn't know Cirrus is dating Skylar, so he doesn't think Cirrus is gay (or bisexual).

If you guys aren't close, why are you touching each other like that? Also, why do you have her phone number and why was she in a hurry to come see you if you're only classmates? Plus, emotions are probably at a high, so all rational thoughts are out the window.


I feel like you're either just not reading, or you're just trying to defend Cirrus because you have a distaste for Chan-il after what Skylar said.

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Why he wouldn't assume they are friends who don't like to show their friendship to people? He already called it a misunderstanding you are talking like they were smooching it's a hug and a hand grab would you assume that with people of the same sex? Also, he should have talked to his girlfriend before going around attacking Cirrus. "I feel like you're either just not reading, or you're just trying to defend Cirrus because you have a distaste for Chan-il after what Skylar said" Well I'm sorry I don't remember the events of a a chapter that I had read two years ago I dislike Chan-il because I dislike Chan-il that it. While I acknowledge my mistake about him knowing that they are friends I still find it annoying that he assumed that she cheated on him based on seeing her consoling someone with a hug without even bothering to check with her first.

I already said I agreed with u sob, bruddah should just go ask his girlfriend . I didn’t expect u to switch you opinion, because u have a valid point. My opinion was that it’s understandable that Chan-il had a misunderstanding and underlying suspicion because he’s just not thinking rationally. His bestie has been ghosting him and being hostile for whatever reason and right now he’s thinking of the worst possible scenario . He simply can’t put 2+2 together because he’s just hella paranoid. His paranoia doesn’t validate his hostility. I said “nvm man” because I’ve realized there’s no point arguing w/ someone who doesn’t want to acknowledge the other side of the argument.

@Meow also, I agreed with you on a part where he wouldn't think rationally when he saw what going on. but he had enough time to rationalize it before attacking Cirrus he had a whole night to think about it and calm down you know. also did you really block me over this fucking small argument are you this petty lol ?

also, the only thing that you agreed with me on is that Chan-il is being annoying I don't remember anything else. I was willing to let this point go but since you blocked me lol I'm not letting this go.

To be honest, I find you very idiotic. I just rationalize everything, spaced it out, and yet you're still not understanding anything. I'll try to break this one down slower.

I would also assume something is up if the guy who supposedly isn't close with the girl he helped get me with suddenly hugging- and according to you- a hand grab. FYI, that was not a hand grab. She literally put his face in her hands. ===> https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/cloud_1/uu/br_chapter-222392/pg-30/

I don't touch people like that I'm not close too.

Another thing, why would anyone assume someone, and I quote, "friends who don't like to show their friendship to people." I understand if Chan-il was an just a friend, but he is Ri-in's BOYFRIEND, who is also one of Cirrus's CLOSEST FRIENDS! Why would you not trust your own boyfriend and close friend? If it's just a friendship, it shouldn't be anything more. See how that sounds? He didn't attack Cirrus on a whim, he has a good reason to suspect. Plus, Cirrus was just smiling and laughing so it would be easy to get the wrong idea. ====> https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/cloud_1/uu/to_chapter-108/pg-48/

And he didn't attack Cirrus, he just hit something beside Cirrus out of anger
====> https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/cloud_1/uu/to_chapter-108/pg-41/

In the end, I agree he should have talked to Ri-in, but I also think Chan-il knows something is up between her and Cirrus and chose to go to Cirrus because Cirrus has been shady. While there's no evidence to support it, I think Chan-il has a feeling there's something between Cirrus and Skylar, so he is angry on Skylar's behalf. I made a mistake in my previous comment when I said, "Chan-il doesn't know Cirrus is dating Skylar, so he doesn't think Cirrus is gay (or bisexual)." While that is true, it isn't really confirmed, and I don't have a certain panel to prove my previous accusation. I've only seen a few people talking about how Chan-il may know, and the whole rumor thing that was happening.