ApolloAresZues November 13, 2024 4:10 pm

I feel like alot are confused why he keeps the tattoo after being happy. I feel like if u really read deep, even tho he was later coerced into a sexual relationship with step-dad, mc feelings were actually all familial. His one and only remaining family. When offered a sexual a relationship, he rlly thought that if it's the only way he can stay with step dad, he could accept it. Later, step dad became more and more controlling and relationship become more and more hard for MC(tbh he is not happy, he is struggling to hold onto his last familial tie). Some who ship this might not believe it but I even think MC never had romantic feelings for uncle(sex is not always romance) but rather familial one's. This is proven by every memory he looks fondly upon being one when stepdad was still a father figure. Later, uncle leaves and all choices are up to him. He no longer has any family. This is even brought up in chapter 8 of the sequel, when other mc goes home and this mc thinks that other dude still has family, he has nothing. Imo, the tattoo is not so much a statement of their later sexual relationship in the mc head, but rather his only reminding tie to his last family figure. Remember, his stepdad is the one that said if they were going to be tied together it had to be sexual. This is mc "family" in his mind. At the end of chapter 8 of sequel, mc also ponders the difference between the two relationships. One is consensual and gives him positive emotions(and he also wanted to do these things), the other he basically had to do if he wanted to maintain a familial relationship with his legit last relative. The scene of him being told that that is the only way he can be with his stepdad(thru sexual relationship) is shown more than once proving this is a deep memory in mc head. He can't give up the only memory he has of his last relative in form of tattoo(however the tattoo came abt, its legit his last memory of his last family member), so his first choice when given agency over himself is to keep it. Bc in his head, if he erases, it removes not just the twisted second half of the relationship, but also the good beginning that would always remain with him.

But his true love can teach him healthy romantic love and start a family with him in the proper way thru marriage. So the feelings are different and this is the way I read it. Now some who ship this couple for prequel can feel different and feel it was romantic since it was indeed a sexual relationship but im just explaining between the lines.

ApolloAresZues November 13, 2024 12:41 am

I feel like the romance for this wasn't as realistic as people say bc honestly a man that's such a catch like uke with such high EQ was eventually gonna fine another love. Irl, the chances that someone rlly waits for someone without falling in love again or settling down at least is rlly low. I dont believ the seme didnt develop some emotions for ex wife but the author forced uke to remain emotionless besides sex for plots sake(even tho hes such an emotional person and it doesnt fit his character!).

Honestly I think the author set up that traveling reunion scene was rlly almost fantasy. Irl, when u make a mistake for not just one year or two years and but more than a decade and finally admit that mistake, u don't turn around and everything returns to normal within 5 secs bc someone waited for u. That's wishful thinking. Esp at that time, uke was 36 years old. At that age, how many people have the courage to go back to a newly divorced ex(eho has proven he can leave u at the drop of hat for a women and return to his "straight" life at any moment. For this manga to work, they let seme mature and "learn" but uke somehow remained the same for all those years and never loved anyone else, remained courageous enough to restart the relationship, and still believed the seme wouldnt repeat the same thing? A fantasy. Another fantasy is how seme never had a child despite being married for years. I guess that would have broke the romance angle and made seme more scum or maybe the reunion wouldnt have happened since seme wouldve felt tied down by the child. How convenient for the story. I think the reason this manga got such a high score in the end is bc of the ending. The author was smart to include a lifetime setting otherwise if it was just that unrealistic reunion with scumbag seme the ratings would be in the trenches.

I would have prefered two options. It would have been more realistic if the story showed the reunion scene, but seme witnesses the uke traveling with his lover. To show, yes seme turned around, but by the time he turned around, ukes line had deviated. Everything does not just fall into place and there is no two people that are meant to be in this world. Everything is the result one ones own choices, their characters, and no line can make everything magically fall into place. This is more realistic. Or add a chapter and have uke have a happy relationship that ends due to various reasons. Then when they meet again, he just happens to be single and after seme explaining and apologizing, he agrees to give seme a chance due to the fact that they were first loves and theres sentiment, not bc he had been waiting for seme all that time(emotionally). Thats nonsense. People are emotional creatures and this emotion does not magically only apply to one person, even those people with decades of unrequited love have times when they have crushes on other people or get the urge to give up and settle down with someone suitable. Esp when the object of that affection is someone u literally have not seen in almost a decade so there is nothing but memories for the affection to rely on. I don't doubt uke loved seme, but u can love more than one person. That's more realistic. Or did seme not love his ex wife? 8 Years and he didn't love her? OK.

Also have them show in more than one small panel the consequences of seme leaving, uke changes, them having to adapt and fall in love again. That's realistic. Everything just going back to the way it was showed no growth and it was hard for me to relate to anything that was happening. But like I said, I get why people like the full lifetime angle and why the rating is high, just sharing other thoughts. More Mangas should show old age and death.

    Cherryluv November 19, 2024 6:56 am

    Someone can changes. Uke is still easy finding partners but he is not easy to fall in love. He still loves seme, he can't forget him. But didn't have any problem finding partner just for sex. You are talking about this like you know every other person in this world. Ofc there is a bit of fiction in this, since this is not a biography. But everyone experiences is different and how their mind works is also different.

    Star## December 4, 2024 7:06 pm

    So true..ur intrepretation is realistic..n this woulhave made this manga more relatable...but sometimes fantasy also attracts ppl. Its a gd read but same do not happen in real life.

ApolloAresZues April 25, 2021 7:36 pm

Honestly where's the harem tag for this? Almost had me tricked bc the first book before this was so cute and heartwarming. Honestly there was no point in adding this many female leads it doesnt even fit the tone of the story.

ApolloAresZues June 6, 2020 5:08 am

I usually love this author's works but for some reason I wasnt feeling this one. I didn't rlly like the seme all that much. He was kinda too frivolous and too forceful. I'm fine with dubious consent in yaoi(its so reoocurent that I had to get used to it) but seeing the seme just use the uke, not cause he particularly seemed to like him or anything, but like just cause he was the there and he was "cute", was uncomfortable. It felt so sudden and just weird and stiff. Idk, it's not up to par with her other works, especially when i know how good she is with characters and fluff.

ApolloAresZues February 20, 2020 2:52 am

I really like it when semes give blowjobs...and actually look like they're enjoying giving them. I don't think I see semes give bjs that often(mostly fingering instead) and when they do it's not as sexy as when the uke does it because u can kinda tell its sorta just an act, they dont seem to actually like having a dick in their mouth(to be vulgar abt it). But semes like this look like they actually like it and to me that's really sexy. Similar bj scenes would be Cherry Blossoms in Winter(sounds messed up but I liked that the uke came on his face after kinda making him choke). Tbh alot of the time authors pretend like the ukes dick doesn't exist ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Honeybee123 February 20, 2020 4:06 am

    I agree with this. In a lot of Yaoi the author treats the uke more like a woman than a man. Which can often toe the line of fetishization of gay men, and it weirds me out. Especially when the uke is hyper feminized and submissive. When you watch gay porn for example the men treat each other like men and the penis is more involved because they know that it brings a lot of pleasure as well as anal. Because for men, especially men just getting used to anal sex, anal isn’t some sort of magic thing that gives instant pleasure and will make them cum instantly. Authors sometimes treat it like that it feels the same as having vaginal sex when they’re very different. Usually those types of authors are straight women with no experience with male homosexual intercourse.

    NickiSivki February 20, 2020 5:55 am

    i like when the so called semes and ukes ._.

ApolloAresZues January 6, 2020 4:38 am

This is the first smut I wish wasn't smut. Cause if u cut out those random sex scenes(which kinda just seem to dumb this manga down and aren't the best I've seen by any means) it woulda been a cute childhood friend story. And it woulda progressed alot faster too. The guys hot, has good expressions, and has a pretty interesting job(when they aren't using it for smut purposes). The girl is cute, is confident(when he isn't smutting her up) and seems rational(her worry over her documents after the fire, her in the workspace). They look cute together too. I know this is for entertainment, but it seems almost like a waste. Like if they had just made the smut make sense, it woulda...made more sense. Idk.

    Anonymous January 6, 2020 5:57 pm

    I would recommend the artist and the beast.It has a cute storyline as of now maybe that will suit you taste more,and I also agree that the plot would be more interesting if there is more development on their relationship and not just the smut part.

ApolloAresZues November 26, 2019 8:12 am

It's surprisingly refreshing how seriously the seme(and even the uke in his reactions) is taking the sexual assault. Not to say it shouldn't be taken seriously, but that yaoi logic let's ukes be borderline--finna slip the tip in--raped( by outsiders,not semes) and still come out fine and dandy. I guess I got so used to them brushing off assault and it's consequences so this is new.

ApolloAresZues November 19, 2019 4:17 am

U know your too used to rape culture yaoi when u think the younger bro was gonna attack older bro come bday. I was honestly super surprised that all he did was confess and I had to retrace my steps and look at the genre. Shounen ai, no wonder.

    Raikatuji December 22, 2019 5:45 pm

    But I think the ending need something more. Not sex scene, but like confirmation?
    Someting like after ending not just resolve the "brother or lover" problem, but also how they live the rest of the time etc etc etc.

    Raikatuji December 23, 2019 1:37 am

    Um, actually, no, sorry, I thought this story is completed then realized it's still on going. I'm sorry.

ApolloAresZues November 19, 2019 2:45 am

I really liked this manga back in the day but it's updating so slow(raws too) that at this point I just came back to see if they fucked yet...they havent

    Lessej November 19, 2019 4:05 am

    Maybe because it's Shounen-Ai? The tag said so?

    ApolloAresZues November 19, 2019 4:22 am
    Maybe because it's Shounen-Ai? The tag said so? Lessej

    Yeah but Im waiting for a fade out sex scene since their placing so much emphasis on rens virginity(and they included implied masturbation scenes so)

    Lessej November 19, 2019 7:11 am
    Yeah but Im waiting for a fade out sex scene since their placing so much emphasis on rens virginity(and they included implied masturbation scenes so) ApolloAresZues

    I do hope so, let's just wait and see

    ciaraj November 19, 2019 9:03 am

    it only updates 4x a year, like junjou romantica and sekaiichi hatsukoi, because it is in emerald(which is only publishd 4x a year)

    ApolloAresZues November 19, 2019 2:30 pm
    it only updates 4x a year, like junjou romantica and sekaiichi hatsukoi, because it is in emerald(which is only publishd 4x a year) ciaraj

    Ahhh thanks. I've been wondering if the author was on semi hiatus or what

ApolloAresZues March 22, 2019 4:06 am

Im seeing a general census in the comments and i agree. I like reading dark shit, dark, horrifying shit is fine. Rape, murder, stalking? Ok. But dont don that shit in ribbons and paint it using rainbow colors. In other words, dont make hentai rape out to be smth deep and profound or god forbid, involve love. Its just...not. No. I enjoy dark "love stories", when the author isnt actually trying to portray it as a legit romance or actual love. A good example of dark done right would be stuff like killing stalking, in which case no matter how much readers may ship everyone knows, including the author themselves, that the story is very far from a romance or actual love. Its Stockholm syndrome, abuse, bad habits etc. But certaintly not real love and they never try to convince us of that fact, either.

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