ıs there any yuri/gl that mc is a fujoshi and in love with a girl? or falls in love with a girl? or some girl falls in live with mc? or both of them are fujoshies? just a character who is fujoshi. and make it lesbian. deff not about me fr
The phrase "I will never understand male-centered lesbians" highlights a common critique found within the broader conversation about representation in media, particularly in genres like yuri (girl's love), where the focus is on romantic or sexual relationships between women. In this context, the term "male-centered lesbians" refers to yuri stories that are heavily influenced by male perspectives or catered to a predominantly male audience. This type of portrayal often emphasizes sexualized depictions of female-female relationships that serve the male gaze, rather than providing an authentic or nuanced representation of lesbian relationships. For many viewers, especially those within the LGBTQ+ community, this kind of representation feels disingenuous, as it tends to prioritize male fantasies over the actual experiences of women in love with other women. The characters may be portrayed in a way that emphasizes physical attraction or eroticism in a manner that doesn’t reflect the emotional depth, complexity, or lived realities of same-sex relationships.
Such stories may also fall into tropes that objectify women or present their relationships as something to be consumed by a male audience, further disconnecting them from the authentic experiences of lesbians. This can lead to feelings of alienation among lesbian viewers, who may feel that their experiences are being misrepresented or exploited for the benefit of a male demographic. In addition, there is a broader cultural issue at play, where LGBTQ+ characters and stories are often created or shaped by people outside of those communities, leading to skewed or stereotypical portrayals that fail to capture the true essence of lesbian relationships. The frustration expressed in the statement also ties into a larger conversation about how media often caters to the dominant (usually male) perspective, shaping not just yuri or GL but also other genres like BL (boy's love), which similarly may cater to a predominantly female audience. Both genres, despite being centered around same-sex relationships, can sometimes be written in ways that aren't fully reflective of the experiences of the people they represent.
This phenomenon is not limited to yuri or GL, but extends to various forms of media, including film, television, and literature, where minority groups are often depicted through the lens of the dominant culture. It leads to a lack of diverse and authentic storytelling, where stories are often written by people who may not fully understand or represent the experiences of the communities they are portraying. For instance, while male-centered portrayals of lesbian relationships may highlight the visual or sexual appeal of the characters, they rarely delve into the emotional depth or challenges that are part of real-life relationships between women. This misrepresentation can often lead to confusion, frustration, and a sense of alienation among the intended audience, as they are left craving more genuine portrayals of love, connection, and intimacy. For many, this kind of portrayal becomes a form of fetishization rather than a celebration of love, which can feel degrading and dismissive. As a result, fans of these genres, especially those who identify as part of the LGBTQ+ community, often find themselves pushing back against such portrayals, advocating for more inclusive and realistic depictions of relationships that better reflect the diversity of experiences within the community.
This discussion also speaks to the broader issue of the importance of representation in media. Authentic representation is crucial because it allows individuals to see themselves reflected in stories, providing validation and understanding. When creators of LGBTQ+ media come from the communities they represent, there is a greater chance of creating stories that reflect the true emotional and social complexities of those relationships. In contrast, stories that prioritize male fantasies or cater to a predominantly male audience often fall short of delivering genuine portrayals of love, intimacy, and personal growth. As the conversation around representation continues to evolve, it's essential to support and promote content that authentically represents the diverse experiences of LGBTQ+ individuals, rather than relying on stereotypes or exploitative depictions. Ultimately, the goal should be to create media that resonates with the lived experiences of the people it portrays, allowing them to see themselves not as objects of desire for others but as fully realized individuals with rich emotional lives and meaningful relationships.
Agreed. Ill never understand female centered gays Theore
The phrase “I’ll never understand female-centered gays” similarly reflects confusion or frustration, but in this case, it pertains to the portrayal of gay male relationships that are catered to a predominantly female audience, a phenomenon that’s most commonly associated with BL (boy’s love) media. The term "female-centered gays" refers to how stories about gay male characters are often created or consumed with a focus on satisfying the desires or fantasies of female viewers, rather than authentically representing the experiences of gay men. In many BL stories, the dynamics of male relationships can be portrayed in a way that prioritizes the emotional or sexual appeal to women, sometimes exaggerating or distorting aspects of these relationships to fit female expectations. This may include hypersexualization or romanticized portrayals of male-male relationships, with a focus on the aesthetic or emotional appeal of the male characters rather than a realistic exploration of the complexities and nuances of same-sex male relationships.
The frustration often expressed by those critical of female-centered gay media comes from a sense of disconnection between the portrayal of these relationships and the reality of being a gay man. For many viewers, particularly gay men, the exaggerated, idealized, or over-romanticized depictions can feel alienating because they don't reflect the true emotional or relational dynamics that occur in real-life same-sex male relationships. The characters in these stories may be portrayed as overly dramatic or their relationships overly sensationalized, which can obscure the real challenges, joys, and emotional growth that come with being in a gay relationship. Moreover, these portrayals often fail to address the struggles that gay men face in society, such as discrimination, internalized homophobia, or the complexities of navigating sexuality in a world that can be hostile to non-heteronormative identities. Instead, these stories may reduce gay relationships to their sexual appeal or fantasy elements, which can detract from the depth and authenticity that many seek in LGBTQ+ representation.
At the same time, it's essential to recognize that the existence of female-centered gay media, particularly BL, is not inherently problematic; the issue arises when these portrayals overshadow the authentic representation of gay male experiences, or when creators focus more on catering to female fantasies than exploring the lived realities of gay men. In many ways, the development of the BL genre reflects a broader pattern seen in other areas of media, where minority groups' stories are often shaped or constructed by those outside the community. This can lead to an oversimplified or skewed representation of the relationships and identities involved. Just as male-centered portrayals of lesbian relationships (as in some yuri works) can feel disconnected from the real experiences of lesbian women, female-centered portrayals of gay relationships can similarly miss the mark when it comes to the emotional depth, struggles, and joy of same-sex male relationships.
The phrase "I will never understand male-centered lesbians" highlights a common critique found within the broader conversation about representation in media, particularly in genres like yuri (girl's love), wher... Kizzzz
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/useless_princesses/ (not sure 100% if she is a fujoshi, but the FL is a manga otaku)https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kami_eshi_jk_to_ol/ (AGE GAP, OL LADY X HIGH SCHOOLER, M... Misanthropical
thank you so much, you are my savior. also thank you for himejoshi ones, ill deff read those too. you fed me.
The phrase "I will never understand male-centered lesbians" highlights a common critique found within the broader conversation about representation in media, particularly in genres like yuri (girl's love), wher... Kizzzz
You understand that this isn’t what I’m talking about at all, right? Male-centered lesbians refer to lesbians that haven’t learned how to decentralize men in their life. I simply don’t understand fujoshi lesbians that have little to no interest in yuri as opposed to yaoi and I don’t understand the appeal of seeing a lesbian in fiction be a fujoshi. As a himejoshi lesbian who used to only read BL, switched to m/f, and then went to mainly reading yuri and m/f, I simply don’t understand the weird obsession some lesbians have with yaoi.Then again, maybe I’m generalizing OP but it’s very common for lesbian fujos to have internalized misogyny and care for yuri significantly less than yaoi due to a disinterest despite being sapphic themselves. I left my response around 12 am for me, it’s most likely careless, which I do apologize for. The representation of people in story is important, yes, but I simply don’t understand some lesbians are so obsessed with yaoi constantly seeking it out and disinterested in yuri.
ıs there any yuri/gl that mc is a fujoshi and in love with a girl? or falls in love with a girl? or some girl falls in live with mc? or both of them are fujoshies? just a character who is fujoshi. and make it lesbian. deff not about me fr
I don’t have any recs but you could try searching up “fujoshi” on Mangago and then skim over the genres if you haven’t already
I will never understand male centered lesbians
Agreed. Ill never understand female centered gays
The phrase "I will never understand male-centered lesbians" highlights a common critique found within the broader conversation about representation in media, particularly in genres like yuri (girl's love), where the focus is on romantic or sexual relationships between women. In this context, the term "male-centered lesbians" refers to yuri stories that are heavily influenced by male perspectives or catered to a predominantly male audience. This type of portrayal often emphasizes sexualized depictions of female-female relationships that serve the male gaze, rather than providing an authentic or nuanced representation of lesbian relationships. For many viewers, especially those within the LGBTQ+ community, this kind of representation feels disingenuous, as it tends to prioritize male fantasies over the actual experiences of women in love with other women. The characters may be portrayed in a way that emphasizes physical attraction or eroticism in a manner that doesn’t reflect the emotional depth, complexity, or lived realities of same-sex relationships.
Such stories may also fall into tropes that objectify women or present their relationships as something to be consumed by a male audience, further disconnecting them from the authentic experiences of lesbians. This can lead to feelings of alienation among lesbian viewers, who may feel that their experiences are being misrepresented or exploited for the benefit of a male demographic. In addition, there is a broader cultural issue at play, where LGBTQ+ characters and stories are often created or shaped by people outside of those communities, leading to skewed or stereotypical portrayals that fail to capture the true essence of lesbian relationships. The frustration expressed in the statement also ties into a larger conversation about how media often caters to the dominant (usually male) perspective, shaping not just yuri or GL but also other genres like BL (boy's love), which similarly may cater to a predominantly female audience. Both genres, despite being centered around same-sex relationships, can sometimes be written in ways that aren't fully reflective of the experiences of the people they represent.
This phenomenon is not limited to yuri or GL, but extends to various forms of media, including film, television, and literature, where minority groups are often depicted through the lens of the dominant culture. It leads to a lack of diverse and authentic storytelling, where stories are often written by people who may not fully understand or represent the experiences of the communities they are portraying. For instance, while male-centered portrayals of lesbian relationships may highlight the visual or sexual appeal of the characters, they rarely delve into the emotional depth or challenges that are part of real-life relationships between women. This misrepresentation can often lead to confusion, frustration, and a sense of alienation among the intended audience, as they are left craving more genuine portrayals of love, connection, and intimacy. For many, this kind of portrayal becomes a form of fetishization rather than a celebration of love, which can feel degrading and dismissive. As a result, fans of these genres, especially those who identify as part of the LGBTQ+ community, often find themselves pushing back against such portrayals, advocating for more inclusive and realistic depictions of relationships that better reflect the diversity of experiences within the community.
This discussion also speaks to the broader issue of the importance of representation in media. Authentic representation is crucial because it allows individuals to see themselves reflected in stories, providing validation and understanding. When creators of LGBTQ+ media come from the communities they represent, there is a greater chance of creating stories that reflect the true emotional and social complexities of those relationships. In contrast, stories that prioritize male fantasies or cater to a predominantly male audience often fall short of delivering genuine portrayals of love, intimacy, and personal growth. As the conversation around representation continues to evolve, it's essential to support and promote content that authentically represents the diverse experiences of LGBTQ+ individuals, rather than relying on stereotypes or exploitative depictions. Ultimately, the goal should be to create media that resonates with the lived experiences of the people it portrays, allowing them to see themselves not as objects of desire for others but as fully realized individuals with rich emotional lives and meaningful relationships.
The phrase “I’ll never understand female-centered gays” similarly reflects confusion or frustration, but in this case, it pertains to the portrayal of gay male relationships that are catered to a predominantly female audience, a phenomenon that’s most commonly associated with BL (boy’s love) media. The term "female-centered gays" refers to how stories about gay male characters are often created or consumed with a focus on satisfying the desires or fantasies of female viewers, rather than authentically representing the experiences of gay men. In many BL stories, the dynamics of male relationships can be portrayed in a way that prioritizes the emotional or sexual appeal to women, sometimes exaggerating or distorting aspects of these relationships to fit female expectations. This may include hypersexualization or romanticized portrayals of male-male relationships, with a focus on the aesthetic or emotional appeal of the male characters rather than a realistic exploration of the complexities and nuances of same-sex male relationships.
The frustration often expressed by those critical of female-centered gay media comes from a sense of disconnection between the portrayal of these relationships and the reality of being a gay man. For many viewers, particularly gay men, the exaggerated, idealized, or over-romanticized depictions can feel alienating because they don't reflect the true emotional or relational dynamics that occur in real-life same-sex male relationships. The characters in these stories may be portrayed as overly dramatic or their relationships overly sensationalized, which can obscure the real challenges, joys, and emotional growth that come with being in a gay relationship. Moreover, these portrayals often fail to address the struggles that gay men face in society, such as discrimination, internalized homophobia, or the complexities of navigating sexuality in a world that can be hostile to non-heteronormative identities. Instead, these stories may reduce gay relationships to their sexual appeal or fantasy elements, which can detract from the depth and authenticity that many seek in LGBTQ+ representation.
At the same time, it's essential to recognize that the existence of female-centered gay media, particularly BL, is not inherently problematic; the issue arises when these portrayals overshadow the authentic representation of gay male experiences, or when creators focus more on catering to female fantasies than exploring the lived realities of gay men. In many ways, the development of the BL genre reflects a broader pattern seen in other areas of media, where minority groups' stories are often shaped or constructed by those outside the community. This can lead to an oversimplified or skewed representation of the relationships and identities involved. Just as male-centered portrayals of lesbian relationships (as in some yuri works) can feel disconnected from the real experiences of lesbian women, female-centered portrayals of gay relationships can similarly miss the mark when it comes to the emotional depth, struggles, and joy of same-sex male relationships.
bro Hatsune Miku understands so thats enough for me
you literally ATE with this, wow
thanks! ı only found one like that, others are f/m but one of them was shojo ai
omg im so dumb is this an annulsion
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/useless_princesses/ (not sure 100% if she is a fujoshi, but the FL is a manga otaku)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/kami_eshi_jk_to_ol/ (AGE GAP, OL LADY X HIGH SCHOOLER, MC is a fujoshi and the FL is a doujinshi artist of her favourite OTP)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/doujin_onna_yuri_anthology/ (CH. 1 couple: both are fujoshis; CH. 2 & 5 is the same couple: MC is a doujinshi novelist, and FL is a doujinshi artist, not sure if they are fujoshis or himejoshis; CH. 3 couple: MC is a cosplayer cross-dressing as the FL doujinshi writer's favourite character; CH. 4 couple: MC is a himejoshi I think, and the FL is her favourite doujinshi artist and a cosplayer)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/sexual_education_120/ (one of the characters is a fujoshi, not sure if she ends up with a girl at the end though)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/oshiegoto/ (TEACHER X STUDENT, MC is an art teacher who also draws doujinshis of her OTP, FL is a gyaru student who is a fan of her works)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/ienai_himitsu_no_aishikata/ (TEACHER X STUDENT, MC is NOT a fujoshi but a himejoshi - fan of yuri manga)
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/dokyuusei_no_oshi_sakka_ni_yuri_mousou_ga_bareta_kekka/ (again, the FL is NOT a fujoshi, but a himejoshi, and the MC is a yuri story author)
thank you so much, you are my savior. also thank you for himejoshi ones, ill deff read those too. you fed me.
You understand that this isn’t what I’m talking about at all, right? Male-centered lesbians refer to lesbians that haven’t learned how to decentralize men in their life. I simply don’t understand fujoshi lesbians that have little to no interest in yuri as opposed to yaoi and I don’t understand the appeal of seeing a lesbian in fiction be a fujoshi. As a himejoshi lesbian who used to only read BL, switched to m/f, and then went to mainly reading yuri and m/f, I simply don’t understand the weird obsession some lesbians have with yaoi.Then again, maybe I’m generalizing OP but it’s very common for lesbian fujos to have internalized misogyny and care for yuri significantly less than yaoi due to a disinterest despite being sapphic themselves. I left my response around 12 am for me, it’s most likely careless, which I do apologize for. The representation of people in story is important, yes, but I simply don’t understand some lesbians are so obsessed with yaoi constantly seeking it out and disinterested in yuri.