Whewww chile!!!! y'all idc abt haesol or minho or wtv!!! she has good ass chemistry with wookyung (the other dom). that should be the ship. y'all...wait til y'all see the backstory between them ;)) they're so compatible in bed but the only problem is that they're both doms LMAOOOO and the MC is adamant on not being a sub.
I totally agree with you
Wait, I saw the raws (but I couldn't understand them), isn't Wookyung a switch?
he's a Dom but he let the MC be the dom for the night lmao since she didn't want to sub. I gave someone else spoilers from 61-97 if u want to know in more detail.
Damn,, he makes really good maso faces
yeah domxdom just doest Not work. like its one thing if one of them was a switch but anyway that guy is terrifying why would u want duna with him. i mean...maybe if it meant she'd beat him up....(srsly i rly liked him at first he was my kinda freak but then he just got turned into a full on monster, and then the writer pretends like its just fine and no consequences happen? man that made me knock down this manhwa a full letter grade. MESS.)
what he did to minho was lowkey fucked up but after watching the backstory and their history, it'd make sense if both ended up together. obvs minho has shown that he won't change, the girl is out of the question, and haesol is too naive and won't be able to have a healthy relationship.
DomXDom works as, long as they manage to keep their egos in check.
tbf i wrote what i wrote before i saw all these raws/spanish translated chapters. i feel like the writer changed her mind or something cause that stuff rly changes the entire context of the first half of the story. that's not even a complaint though cause the bits doona and wookyung are prob the most interesting in the whole manhwa so far. and its not as if i dislike her scenes with her other lovers either but yeah, if not for the being a sub is rly not his preference aspect they'd p much perfect match. lol (cant read spanish but still looked thru all the chapters anyway, no regrets!)
it was highkey fucked up and tbh made no sense? like i dont even hate it cause its problematic (altho it is) i hate it cuz its so unnecessary like WK is a freak sure but he (and this writer) clearly does know what consent is and looks like even with the "forced seduction" trope in play. that and the entire bizarre scenario WK goes thru to make minho quit his job is so convoluted and then he just gonna drug him anyway? just do that shit rom the start then damn. im all for wk manipulating minho into bed and making him cry from pleasure and embarassment/humiliation cause boy does minho need to get a regular ego check but his scene with WK was him in terror for his Life. that's just not sexy to me. i liked his scenes with Doona alot more. she's being vicious but he's also shown to be into it and like not scared he's going to Die or get beaten until he passes out. like minoh is so unsympathetic but the bit with WK was so horrible that it made me feel bad for minho! anyway thats tbh my only big qualm with this manhwa so far? and i rly like WK in all his scenes prior and after. the whole thing seemed just OOC tbh? anyway here's hoping there's no repeats. that said, after seeing that bit with him, buff sub jongwoo and doona..i m hoping WK gets his wish at having Minho be his sub and i get my wish of seeing both Doona and WK tag teamming Minho in bed. (he's so pretty when he cries...)
apparently he's only a switch for doona ;) tru luv
yesss like I liked wookyung before that scene, but then I started having second thoughts during that scene. :( like minho's an asshole, but that made me sympathize with him a bit. im guessing the author wrote that scene (which didn't make sense like you said) because i think? that was after the long ass hiatus when she left Lezhin. I'm guessing she kind of got lost and added that in? After reading tho I kind of liked wookyung lmaoo his personality is pretty interesting. Btw, I read up til chapter 97 and I actually told someone else literally everything that happened in detail. Do you want me to send u a link of the topic? That way you'd be able to understand y i like wookyung lmaoo & yeah I hope I see minho as a sub he needs an ego check
hahaha nvmmmm lmao I told you alr in another topic
yeah i saw ur summary of the chapters and then i even went thru the chapters after 70+ tfrom the spanish translation and just like "read" thru them all even tho i cant read spanish. but google translate can! lol. its too time consuming to write out everything into the translate window but i just did stuff where i couldnt figure out at all what the context was. i type rly fast u see ;) my spanish is not as bad as i thought tho! but its still very bad lmao. anyway feel free to chat w/ me about this manhwa anytime. too many people on here dont appreciate Doona and that bums me out. (why would any1 read smth about a sadistic woman and then complain in the comments when she behaves sadisticly? dun make no sense...if the femdom isnt stepping on men's faces with her shoe then what is even THE POINT! smh)
wait tho what was that about some big hiatus and leaving lezhin? u got the details on that? spill that tea sis!
Preach sis!! I'm so mad at people complaining about the MC's sadism,, like... Bruh
people getting mad at Doona on Minho's behalf is the real kicker though. like...really?? HIM? like ok then lol. if u gon get mad at Doona for "raping" minho (even though in the comic its been shown multiple times he cant even get it up to have "normal" sex with other women anymore while with doona on both occasions she dommed him he came like 2-3x lol. in fact u can argue he provokes doona on purpose half the time so she'll pay attention to him cause he's a Mess and only knows how to be shitty to people even people he actually has feelings for! i dont hate minho as a character though he serves a useful Plot function and is top tier Bratty Sub). also do some of these folks who supposedly like reading bdsm manhwas/stories not realize that like the sub crying is part of the appeal of being a sub? u just lose control and fall apart and crying can be very cathartic and freeing, esp if u feel like u cant do that in your daily life even when you Want to. likewise for the dom, knowing u managed to break down someone's walls so effectively and elicit that kind of raw reaction is a big turn on too. its a feature not a bug! like yes obv irl alot of what happens isnt OK cause irl these are scenarios that player swould have to explicitly agree on in advance with safewords and ofc aftercare. but! this is all fantasy. no one was harmed, this is technically less "problematic" than irl porn cause no one's bodies are at stake. and like if its not Your fantasy than thats chill! but its not the manhwa writer's fault. if people how-to guide on bdsm then they shouldnt be tryin to get it from a piece of fiction. that said, i cant help but wonder if peeps would be half as mad if the sadistic beauty in this manga was a guy and this was Yaoi comic #129493 instead. but, i dont wanna argue with people in the comments cuz im grown and people r entitled to their opinions but i cant help but wonder how much of the handwringing going on in the comments stems from internalized misogyny more than anything else. (like i lost count of comment sections of many diff manhwa where people are complaing about the female lead either being too mean or too dumb or too *insert complaint here*. nice to see in 20 years of bein on the internet it rly hasnt changed at all wrt how female characters are talked about in any fandom. love that for us -_-)
lol i didnt finish my sentence, i was trying to say if u gon get mad at doona for being shitty to minho u need to be mad at him for bein shitty to her too, but i aint seein any of That. hmmmhmm wonder why~
Minho is shitty but he isn't a rapist.
lol neither is she? but im not interested in a debate about the ethics of porn comics thats of all things. why i didnt respond to anyone who doesnt like the mc or the comic, cause this comic either is ur kink or its not and either way is valid. u dont need to come here and tell me why u think Minho is worse than Doona. if im explaining my opinion to someone with a similar opinion thats not an opening to come in and lecture or explain why yall feel how u do cuz i didnt ask, it's not interesting or constructive. ty
Minho is just another typical harem Tsundere that verbally abuses the MC. The only difference is in other Harem stories the genders are usually reversed. Reverse the genders or imagine if Wookyung treated Minho the same way Doona has and it is easier to see as rape. What Wookyung and Doona are doing to Minho is grooming him to become their sub.
ahh yes exactly. I don't understand why people hate Doona & I don't know why they're trying to educate themselves about BDSM through a fictional comic, lol. Can't help but notice that when there's rape in BL stories, most of the readers overlook it, and fetishize it. :( the double standards are almost unreal. also, there was this huge Lezhin scandal back in 2017-2018? where a few artists exposed Lezhin for underpaying them while they worked long hours & if they're behind schedule, they get punished by cutting a part of their wages. There were many protests in Korea? about it. That's the reason the creators of this comic had an extended hiatus :( Many authors ended up taking their comics off from Lezhin. King's Maker, Sadistic Beauty, Reversi, 340 Days, etc. ended up leaving and some of them made a contract w Tappytoons.
hold on, so lezhin charges MORE for coins than tappytoon and pays LESS to the artists?? da fck. im glad SB found a second life at tappytoon. esp cause it meant i could purchase p much all the chapts available in eng for a reasonable price (i do wish TP would let me read the M comics on the phone. im over 18 and u have my credit card info! let me read the smut on my darn phone!) lol anyway, ty for the info. i only discovered the wonders of webtoons/webcomics this year, it got me through that misery of lockdown from covid, so i def missed that whole scandal and i do wonder how lezhin pays artists based outside of korea aka the work is originally in eng, no translation team required. is it as bad or better or worse? hmmm (oh and feel free to keep me updated on the new SB chpts in spanish as they come out. ;) since i found the raws on bomtoon (locked ofc) and it seems the spanish translators are only 3-4 eps behind. the previews for ep 100 look like minho gets shit kicked again. mmmm we likes it we do
Well for me it is quite simple I find Female on Male rape hot but I don't like Male on Female or Male on Male rape. It is why I did not like Wookyung raping Minho but am okay with Doona raping him but I can also appreciate not everyone is a fan of Female on Male rape and why they won't like Doona. Also I read chapters 98-101 raws here.
https://m.vk.com/albums-147338358
oooh thnx for the link *__*
Hell yeah!!!! I found the spanish version up to 97!!!!! Thank the lord I'm Hispanic!!!
oh cool where? which site,i learned spanish so i can understand
aww thank you!!
thank you!! i'll check them
i actually read this way back then when it was starting to be translated into english. wow, things took turn for the worst, tbh, i actually like this comic. they kind of all got what they deserved, except for the mom, of course. i quite liked the ending and how everything came through made sense. it's a pretty refreshing ending since in a typical BL, the MC would end up together with the 2nd male lead or wtv. Some of u guys are complaining that there's no character development but why should there be if this is the ending? Because these characters changed for the worst and kept making bad decisions, the ending is what it is. i'd probably rate this a high 3 or barely a 4 since I've read better BL comics, but although this one was controversial, it is one you can remember & learn from.
I read it at the same time of you..but i still feel sick after i finished it doesn't matter how many time i read it..lol