2024-11-28 11:47 marked
2024-08-09 14:06 marked
Nothing to add for now, the time, space, and energy I would need to detail all of my thoughts on all this exceeds every limit presented to me here. I need to see the story to completion before I make any final judgements. It did some things that I thought were genuinely interesting and praiseworthy at first and then began to fumble the bag with stupid plot devices and, well, mishandling the things it’d been doing well at first.
Look. If you’re into rape/non-con that’s fine. If you’re into the toxic shit that’s fine, so long as you understand that that is, in fact, what you’re reading. I’ll self-disclose and say I, too, enjoy those things (in a purely fictional context). But the fact that I am seeing several people in these comments trying to argue that what Jaekyung is/has been doing throughout this Webtoon WASN’T rape is deeply, deeply concerning to me. Usually I would blame the author for framing things in such a way as to make things ambiguous for reasons that have little to do with the story. But it is not the case here. Jaekyang is a wealthy man with status and power, physical and otherwise. He used those qualities from the get go and all throughout the Webtoon in order to get Dan, someone in a ridiculously desperate financial situation and with no leverage of his own to have sex with him. That is the gross abuse of power being used to coerce someone otherwise completely unwilling to have sex with you—that is rape. And it is a real and horrific thing that happens ALL the time in reality.
So don’t come at me with “technicalities” about this shit just because it’s fiction or whatever the fuck, because some of y’all aren’t talking about this as if it is, some of y’all aren’t applying nuance to this for the sake of having a worthwhile conversation. It’s genuinely scary to me that some of you seem to be unaware of the precise nature of what is going on here. Not that you’re reading the Webtoon, but that you don’t seem to be understanding it. It’s emblematic of many cultures’ poor sex ed and poor attitudes towards sex and consent. Because I don’t think anyone who has been educated enough should be able to walk away from this being unable to distinguish between rape and actual, consensual sex, especially when it is as clear-cut as it is here. I DO have to worry about how you guys would react to hearing someone in your real life in this kind of situation, or, and I hope it is never, ever the case, YOU being in this situation. Would you excuse it? Because you “agreed” to it? Would you relentlessly blame yourself like Dan does? Would you really be able to articulate your experience to get the help you need? Would you be able to respond well to someone else in this situation?
Look. If you’re into rape/non-con that’s fine. If you’re into the toxic shit that’s fine, so long as you understand that that is, in fact, what you’re reading. I’ll self-disclose and say I, too, enjoy those things (in a purely fictional context). But the fact that I am seeing several people in these comments trying to argue that what Jaekyung is/has been doing throughout this Webtoon WASN’T rape is deeply, deeply concerning to me. Usually I would blame the author for framing things in such a way as to make things ambiguous for reasons that have little to do with the story. But it is not the case here. Jaekyang is a wealthy man with status and power, physical and otherwise. He used those qualities from the get go and all throughout the Webtoon in order to get Dan, someone in a ridiculously desperate financial situation and with no leverage of his own to have sex with him. That is the gross abuse of power being used to coerce someone otherwise completely unwilling to have sex with you—that is rape. And it is a real and horrific thing that happens ALL the time in reality.
So don’t come at me with “technicalities” about this shit just because it’s fiction or whatever the fuck, because some of y’all aren’t talking about this as if it is, some of y’all aren’t applying nuance to this for the sake of having a worthwhile conversation. It’s genuinely scary to me that some of you seem to be unaware of the precise nature of what is going on here. Not that you’re reading the Webtoon, but that you don’t seem to be understanding it. It’s emblematic of many cultures’ poor sex ed and poor attitudes towards sex and consent. Because I don’t think anyone who has been educated enough should be able to walk away from this being unable to distinguish between rape and actual, consensual sex, especially when it is as clear-cut as it is here. I DO have to worry about how you guys would react to hearing someone in your real life in this kind of situation, or, and I hope it is never, ever the case, YOU being in this situation. Would you excuse it? Because you “agreed” to it? Would you relentlessly blame yourself like Dan does? Would you really be able to articulate your experience to get the help you need? Would you be able to respond well to someone else in this situation?
2024-08-04 15:12 marked
2024-04-26 15:16 marked
yes, i absolutely agree with everyone saying a man def wrote this bc its just rape & fap material, but lets not pretend female authors dont do the same shit but with gay characters cus i know damn well we can all name a few its always a gamble reading smut written by hets lmao, but i will say i straight up dont trust male authors writing female centered anything, whether it be romance or smut
2024-04-25 05:48 marked
Infatuated With Their Manz ~ Praise Kink?
Spoiling tf out of your partner with compliments, what's not to like. Verbal admirations about how cute their S/Os are may or may not be during sex. SO INFATUATED, height of romance :') [...or obsession but that's a thin line]
2023-11-28 01:52 marked
"There's still a long way to go" Wow, cant wait for the long way of cliche plotline of rape, physical and psychological abuse, and stockholm syndrome, so at the end it could be justified because the top had a dramatic and abusing up bringing and didnt know any better. And of course, the forgiveness plotline wound be a chapter, maybe two at max.
2023-08-06 14:19 marked
I'm really ashamed to admit this but I can't stop reading this god awful manhwa (No offense Mingwa, I have always loved your other work but this one, this one is not it).
If you hate this manhwa, and stopped reading because of the fucked up shit going on in the story, you're absolutely valid and RIGHT in your decision, and you shouldn't doubt it one bit! You should go on with your day knowing that you ain't wasting your time reading this.
Meanwhile, I'm reading this because [I'm a fucking idiot I ain't denying that lolololol and that] it's such a freaking natural disaster I can't help but stare in awe! I am reading this because I want to see what kind gold-medal-worthy mental gymnastics the author is going to do in order to convince us that these two are meant for each other
If you hate this manhwa, and stopped reading because of the fucked up shit going on in the story, you're absolutely valid and RIGHT in your decision, and you shouldn't doubt it one bit! You should go on with your day knowing that you ain't wasting your time reading this.
Meanwhile, I'm reading this because [I'm a fucking idiot I ain't denying that lolololol and that] it's such a freaking natural disaster I can't help but stare in awe! I am reading this because I want to see what kind gold-medal-worthy mental gymnastics the author is going to do in order to convince us that these two are meant for each other
2023-08-06 14:18 marked
This webtoon managed to make me throw up, and I'm not even joking. The very first chapters fucked me up so much mentally that I'm wondering how people are enjoying this. It's crazy. I was connecting with mc and almost cried for him. The ml boxer is an absolute monster, he has nothing other than looks, everytime he opened his mouth i was put off completely. He deserves jail time. I just couldn't handle seeing mc crying for him to stop in the middle of sex because he was seriously hurting him. He's treating him like trash to the point that I don't think ml is redeemable. I hope that narcissist rots and mc gets to therapy because if he stays with him that would clearly be trauma bonding and not really love. Dropped.
2023-08-06 14:18 marked
Not yall ugly ass bitches saying Jooin doesn't deserve no one when he's literally the most realistic character. We was naive and but was able develop himself and is starting to realize what he's worth. And now wants to settle things before dating. All he ask for was more time. He ain't leading no one on. Yall just mad he hasn't flip flop with one of the guys or choosed one yet.
2023-07-21 00:17 marked
I like Cain right now, tho it’s been a long time since the last update so I forgot a lot of things, but Yawhi expected Jooin to read his mind and treated Jooin awful. I never understood why Jooin had haters, he’s was sweet until he couldn’t take the disrespect anymore, and in this new chapter he’s very honest about not fully trusting Cain. See honesty: if Yawhi was honest about his feelings, he could still have Jooin, and if Cain isn’t honest, he’ll eventually lose Jooin.
However, something doesn’t sit right with me. In the past life snippet, Cain is a dog, while Jooin is his owner, and I’m sure the author will include Yawhi in the past life, probably as Jooins lover (or as a cat lmfao). Maybe Yawhi was also a bad lover in the past, while Cain had to watch his owner suffer. Also Cain is the biblical name of a person who killed his brother, so that’s very interesting, he’s definitely up to something, I hope he doesn’t hurt Jooin in the process.
However, something doesn’t sit right with me. In the past life snippet, Cain is a dog, while Jooin is his owner, and I’m sure the author will include Yawhi in the past life, probably as Jooins lover (or as a cat lmfao). Maybe Yawhi was also a bad lover in the past, while Cain had to watch his owner suffer. Also Cain is the biblical name of a person who killed his brother, so that’s very interesting, he’s definitely up to something, I hope he doesn’t hurt Jooin in the process.
2023-07-21 00:17 marked
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2023-07-16 19:15 marked
Seme blushing