the last time they talked she asked “WHY do you even like me?” and i think 3 answers that question!
ik people are gonna say its SA which it is, im certain they will work it out though, i think the author is trying to portray inexperienced and just poorly done bdsm on purpose, like that it wasnt the way to go bla bla bla.
he was a jerk but was a one time moment and he stopped, it sucked to see but i understand the message being portrayed, and dont say that it wasnt necessary for the manhwa, its a BDSM smut manhwa, SA is typically tied to the stigma around that so as long as the chapter after are written well i assume all will be well.
As an expirenced kinkster and member of the BDSM community I can soundly say...it wasn't necessary. Rape isn't necessary just because BDSM is involved, that's an extremely disturbing opinion.
I totally totally get what your saying I am NOT saying rape is a necessary part of BDSM, its not even accepted in the community typically.
But it IS part of the stigma surrounding BDSM, if the author plays their cards well they can be able to portray a message of “rape is NOT bdsm and this was a mistake of the characters, lets see how they get past this” you took my comment, took it as me saying rape was a necessity, and immediately went into social justice warrior mode rather than any nuance.
im saying that hard topics in stories when written well can be a good thing, and this issue being brought up in a smut could be a great way to teach the audience consuming it.
actually i reread my OG comment and I actually take back the animosity in my first response. I think my original comment was too dismissive and didnt accurately portray what I was trying to get across. Sorry abt the animosity in the second paragraph of my response
TE AMO!!! I love you, ignore dummies, they have little pea brains with no wrinkles if they don't agree with you. your comments, memes, and edits all atee, I agreed with all
I was actually ANTICIPATING his suicide, just waiting excitedly for him to kill himself because honestly I felt so terrible and helpless for him, I genuinely felt like that was the answer.
girl, I got Stockholm syndrome because by the end I was like.. uh yay?? no more suicide loneliness woohoo.!!...???
idk how to feel.
absolute hot trash story, stunning art I was mesmerized by the mess, it's like seeing something so horrifying you are frozen and petrified unable to move or shut your eyes.
I feel terrible for him, the groveling wasn't enough but the groveling we DID get did make me somewhat (?) satisfied
i’ll be damned if i’m ever fooled and disrespected like this ever again in my life (¬_¬)
LONG BUT PLEASE READ TILL END
while i do agree it was horribly for MC to do such horrible things you must take in her circumstances and surroundings.
there is a clear line between rich and poor, the rich make the rules and stand on the top. thus the rich have the clear CHOICE on whether or not they choose to be good or bad or do things in the name of justice in a corrupt way. the rich have that privilege and priority while the poor do not. (at least in this story)
MC had to deal with 1. already being poor 2. a sick and dying mother 3. debt and more debt piling up. money as they say makes the world go around, without the money there is no way to live properly. the stress loaded onto MC and thus she went off into the deep end.
she was not given the privilege of doing things for mere justice when she herself has no power to provide it. i mean come on she's broke and alone.
the black knight commander (i dont remember his name) took her state into consideration but not in a loving way. he used it to manipulate her to do his deeds (i am guessing) and either 1. was in love with her in some sick way 2. needed her to fulfill the "chores" and do his dirty work 3. simply liked watching her fall into suffering.
it's obvious she didn't take pride in her choices and yet continued to make them. she probably believed she had gone too far and had no way out (due to her commanders manipulation) so she continued to do so in order to survive.
while she is not a saint she is also no Satan. cut her some slack.
in fact look at yourselves, i see people constantly simping for vicious and horrible men such as Dion from How To Protect the Female Lead's Older Brother and hating on morally gray female MC's.
i know you'll say I'm exaggerating and bringing sex/gender into it but i have seen it in MULTIPLE manhwas. you'll praise the attractive yet absolutely despicable men and trash onto the not good/not bad female characters. grow up and realize it please.
EXAMPLES.
Attractive Male VILLAINS: the villain Yohan from White Blood/Unholy Blood, simply because he is attractive many ignore all the horrible deeds he committed and continue praising his looks and "love" along with Dion from The Way to Protect the Female Lead's Older Brother.
Morally Gray Female MC: the MC Suji from the Pyramid Game there are instances where she is not a good nor a bad person but a human simply trying to survive but because she is not kind and sweet she is mainly shit on by many people. Along with the MC in Surviving Romance
A very strong flawed not innocent FL who wants to atone for her past crimes and live her life without anymore regrets.
She wants vengeance but she wants to become a better version of herself first.
Kinda reminds me a little of the great story: The Monster Duchess and The Contract Princess
THANK YOU! finally someone said it. i’m tired of seeing people brush off the mc’s situation. she is a definition of a human that would do whatever they can just to survive. i couldn’t word it better myself.
They already know they just don't care, and neither do I its not like i hate her shes just there as the main character so what can I do
ah you reminded me to continue on with that one! i forgot about finishing it ╮(￣▽￣)╭
sorry that it was long! i just saw some pretty crude comments completely trashing on her as if she truly had a choice so i went on a rant LOL
It is still very engaging. Trust me.
as a child with a neglectful father or to put it simply a father who left i understand vincente. while i do not crave my fathers love or anything related to him i could most certainly understand this.
while i can't help but subconsciously dislike the MC and label her as selfish i do understand that her circumstances did not help. the staff and husband were horrible for simply labeling her as a "spy" and leaving her out of things simply because was a woman from another family.
it's so obvious she had PPD and without having lady in waiting there was no one to really help her or teach her how to get through it. while i will NEVER EVER forgive her or justify her neglecting her son (i still can't help but hate her for that) i do not think she is an evil person.
i do see her as selfish, but i suppose i see her as a morally gray person too. she isn't innocent but nor is she guilty of something. she was a victim to bad circumstances and dealt with having a child alone at age 16-17 while dealing with other things. obviously it piled up on her. she is most certainly a horrible mother in the past, but she's trying so hard now... i guess i give her brownie points for that.
i used to think i was a nice person but after reading this i've just gotten so triggered. i can't help but see her as a selfish woman. but... i'm so conflicted. i guess this story struck a nerve. of course i want to continue reading because i feel like this story has also taught me more about people's different POVs and whatnot
she definitely was selfish, but being selfish doesn't make you a bad person, the ones that i feel were more in the wrong were the ones that saw how selfish she was and the mistakes that she was making and didn't told her about it or helped her with her PPD, like honestly, HOW difficult is to notice someone is not ok and try to help them, even if you can't help, you try to guide them to someone that actually can..... （￣へ￣）
exactly it's quite infuriating in fact. so much could have been prevented if the people had at least tried to speak with her or help her out, but she is just surrounded by other close minded and selfish people thus making her situation worse.. still can't fully sympathize or like her though but i get you
that’s it.. it just hurts. hanbi, sua and sunwoo are all fucked up people. of course i sympathize with hanbi much more and totally despise sua and sunwoo, those two deserve nothing. if only sua and hanbi got together first
yo, Doya lowkey looks like he’s based off of Ricky, i’m going insane the face card eatsss