You know when it showed the uke's school days, and they were teasing one of the lads that got hard when the uke was making the sex noises close to him when they were watching porn (they were hanging out in the same area as that sports room the seme has set up, i wonder if it got out of hand maybe), and after the girl slapped the uke, then one of the friends slapped another lad. Im wondering if thats the seme, maybe the seme was treated like crap by the group of friends, an underling. It looked like the uke was the leader of the pack. After the raws ive seen, but not understood, i cant help but wonder if the seme was in love with the uke in the past and the uke did something bad to him in that sports room, maybe he didnt do it himself maybe it was the group of friends taking the teasing too far.
I have a couple theories, but yeah my main thought was that the seme was the kid teased during the sex video because he got hard and the theory i have has him raped at that one.
Where my theory breaks is in different possibilities. One theory in my mind is that he has already taken care of each person from that room and our uke is the last one. Another theory has more breaks/parts to it. This one relies on the seme being in love or at least focused on the Uke. First version, he was raped and treated like crap, and ended up with that scar as a constant reminder. The second version was that the Uke didn't take part of the rape, but was there. The feeling of being betrayed by someone you feel so close to is hard and people blame people for not saving them even if they couldn't. So this could be revenge for that.
Wow yeah! Your theories are good, and i never thought of the possibility that he has taken his revenge on the others first. I feel more the second one, but with the uke being the ring leader of the whole incident just not actually doing the act itself like you said. Maybe he did end up feeling bad and so got some time of amnesia to cope with the guilt because its weird how he doesnt remember anyone properly.
agreed the Uke seemed to be the leader of his group of friends. That and the fact that how well prepared this all seems. It seems that the guy had done a lot of work to get to this point. Going for who seems to be the leader is very hard and ambitious to do, not even video games have you go after the big bad first. So I thought, he would take out the others one by one of the group by what he had them ranked, skillset and crime. Which the person who does nothing tends to be the worse crime in people's minds.
I think the uke played around with the seme like he did that girl but the seme fell in love with him and got obsessed. Also I think the uke has a commitment issues
Yeah you are right. Ive also changed my mind about the amnesia now, the uke seems arrogant and probably didnt really care enough about any of them to remember them properly. That being said, that would mean that what ever it is that did happen to the seme, the uke didnt think it was significant enough to remember because he doesnt have a clue why he's there and who the seme is.
Sorry i replied before seeing this. I agree with you, after seeing the raws, it does seem like that, but i really do believe something happened significant in that room, because why would the seme go to the trouble of recreating that room.
I know Kai (the narcissist) grows up in the end and stops being so selfish but i just cant forgive him for raping Ran. It left a dark cloud over the whole read for me. What irritated me as well was in the write up of what has happened so far he says something like Kai successfully seduces Ran for a night to remember, thats implying Ran cheated but he wasn’t willing, he was under the influence and was forced upon, and even when Kai was having his way, in Rans mind he was doing it with Kei. Then Kai is all wanting to kill the professor when he just did the same as the professor had planned! I know he kind of apologises eventually but i didn’t believe it was a sincere apology, he was more thinking about himself even then. Actions speak louder than words, and he showed no remorse he was just bitter than he couldn’t get his way, and continued to come between Ran and Kei (i know that was put in for comedy) If they didn’t have that i think i could have been more sympathetic toward him. He was constantly babied by Ran as well, which just kept annoying me. I know most of you don’t agree coz of the comments i seen. I think i would have enjoyed this manga if it wasn’t for that. I know he grows up in the end, and stops being as selfish, and Kei and Ran end up happy regardless. The assassin’s were my favourite couple.
OH MY GOD. YESSSSS. I CAME HERE TO WRITE JUST THAT!!!!! The whole manga, i was feeling so bitter so cloudy!!! It's kinda his character development but he apologized only when he was facing the same problem. #－.－)
What a brat!!!!!!
I thought i was going to be the only one thinking this. My kindred spirit! hehe! (≧∀≦)
Hi I was wondering if i could ask a question regarding this manga and as you guys seem quite recent to it maybe you can help me or give your thoughts on it,
Sure you can! =D Although i know my opinion is in the minority if you go by the other comments. I am not one to comment usually, but i felt really strongly about it haha!
XD i read recently and now i feel like i am forgetting everything. What is happening to me lol
Ha, Im amazed someone finally got back to me, i wasnt expecting it so fast but anyway, its just a part in vol 2 its quite confusing with all the sorta past memories and i dont know if you guys are masa/kai fans or not but I'll ask, i was just wondering how far back do u think masas scene with the guy that raped kai went back, id be really pissed if it was after vol1, i know its a memorie and all but its hard to tell, id like to think it took place before vol 1 as the scenes between them at the end of it were cute, but i just thought id ask and see what other people thought of it
That is the reason why i was so pissed. Those were memory. Happened to him before be met the main couple. He should know better but he did the same thing his rapist did to Ran. Gosshhhh. So...they r just memories. XD
Yeah i agree, i felt the same too. :)
I thought that to until i saw a flashback masa had while he was on the way to save kai in vol 2 and it was a clip of kai kissing him after he returned home from vol 1, im not talking about the scene from when he was a kid, thats why i can't understand why the author would make masa sleep with another guy after that, it ruined the anime for me as well, so if u look back closely kai was raped after he raped ran and it took until i read vol 1 to figure that out, so sad :(
I think Ryouji is still hiding a lot, i even think he probably has his memory back, if he really lost it. He pretty much admitted that he was hoping to carry on where they left off, and he only lost them 3 years he left Motoki. Even when he comes clean he says ‘i think that is about everything i wanted to say’. So there are things he doesn’t want to say. Maybe the stalker was getting into his head saying he’s be the only one to accept him coz he likes cross dressing, Ryouji said he only wanted to show his good side to Motoki, so he was hiding a part of himself from the beginning. Other things that pop out to me are that the stalker is still out there so why is it ok now for him to be with Motoki? He’s going back to his part time job, the place where he first met the stalker, who is still out there. Another thing is, why would the stalker leave Ryouji alone when he started dating Motoki, he’s obsessed enough to stalk him, so Ryouji dating would surely send him over the edge? He said he started stalking him again when he quit his job. Ryouji was in contact with Tysuyoshi them 3 years so he wasn’t kidnapped, but the stalker was still stalking him 3 years on, so why would he back off when he started dating someone, unless it was kept secret i suppose. I think Tysuyoshi knows more than he’s letting on as well. When Tysuyoshi was telling Motoki to treasure Ryouji, he also said ‘well for the meantime take care of him’ then next thing Motoki is dumped. When Ryouji came back, Tysuyoshi went out of his way to get Motoki and Ryouji back together, it seems he knows Ryouji wants to be with Motoki, coz he said ‘It’s no good if it isn’t you, well then, I leave it to you’. If Tysuyoshi was in contact with Ryouji the whole time then surely he would have told him about the stalker situation coz he tells him about everything else, so why wouldn’t he one help him and two tell Motoki, but i suppose you could say Ryouji wouldn’t let him. Tysuyoshi also stayed in contact with Motoki even though they aren’t friends so he must have done that for Ryouji, coz he gave Ryouji updates on him. It’s like what someone else said, maybe Ryouji did have a relationship with the stalker but couldn’t let go of Motoki, and he decided to end it and they got into fight, but he doesn’t want to admit that to Motoki. And what does that mean at the end, i presume its Ryouji’s thoughts?
‘If we ever met again, i thought that something could have changed. But somewhere in my heart, i also wanted that change to have happened ... doubting and wishing ... honestly, i just wanted it all to end already.’ ‘ That is.. gradually dispersing with time .. and im ... by your side, waiting ... swaying ... swaying.’ I think i wrote it right. I rambled on there sorry lol
Dont get me wrong, i am happy for the Dad and Sensei and their happily ever after, and im glad the son didn’t interfere with that. I hate manga’s with love triangles and third parties interfering or trying to come between, so im glad its not a story like that. I feel that Chiharu’s rebellion wasn’t just about him losing his first love, especially to his Dad. Take that out of the equation, and i feel what was hurting him the most was that he felt unwanted by the two people he loved the most at that time. Sensei watched Chiharu grow up, he even wanted to be his Mum at one point, but come teenager Chiharu and i didn’t feel that same investment from Sensei anymore, like not wanting to spend the day alone with him and when he said he didn’t mind if he didn’t hear from him. Putting the fact that he is Chiharu’s first love aside, he is an important parent figure in his life. The Dad never made any attempt to contact Chiharu either, on top of that the only picture in the house of him is Sensei’s drawing. I can totally understand why Chiharu feels unwanted, not that makes his behaviour ok, just that i understand that his pain is beyond losing his first love to his Dad. Thank god for his best friend who always loved him and kept persisting on his part, he’s a lucky guy and he didn’t even know it!
Yeah, that part kind of had me like, wtf? What exactly was his dad's reason for hitting him? Depending on the reason, you could argue that he was worried (not that it excuses violence). I think he loves Chiharu, but I also think he neglected him. I mean, when Chiharu wanted to go to the amusement park with Sensei. You think the dad would be upset because his son doesn't want to spend time with him. He was upset that his boyfriend would be alone with someone else. I feel like he forgot everything he worked for in the first chapter.
*by "that part" I'm referring to the lack of pictures
Yeah, everything you said i totally agree :)
I found the raws this link is from Ch5 - http://vw.mangaz.com/virgo/view/46421/i:154
According to baka its adapted from Manchester no Natsu, and that says - A shounen ai story about a would-be doctor Okubo Goro who desires to kill his own father. He met streetwise Honjo Mineo, and wants Honjo to help him do the deed. All this while, they became strongly attracted to each other, even though Goro's girlfriend keeps coming between them.
Oh dear Thank you so much! I'm so glad!
I'm so fond of this crazy insane protagonist, I was searching for the raws for so long!
Manchester no Natsu, never heard about it but I hope it's less untidy than this one.
For those who are interested i found these, some kind soul took their time to translate vol 3 ch 1 + 2 but its written:
http://leanico.tumblr.com/post/37224985348/renai-sousa-vol-03-ch-01
http://leanico.tumblr.com/post/37634502180/renai-sousa-vol-03-ch-02
the raw of these 2 chapters - http://www.77mh.com/201101/182676.html?page=1
Lemme see if I my pathetic skills could be of some use. Gimme a few days.
Hi! Is there a way to download the raws? I'd like to try combining the raws with the translation.
Wow thank you! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ I dont know about things like that though, but i just right clicked on one page and it let me save the picture. Someone else probably knows how to do it properly i dont have a clue, im sorry.
It's fine, thanks! I googled for a downloader and it worked!
Wow great! (≧∀≦)
I just realised i said wow each time lol Im looking forward to it as you can tell. Thank you!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
LOL! No worries. :D
yay tnx for the raw and translation link, I just put them one beside the other and read the chapter *-* my monkey brain is not just for show ahah :3
I'm so grateful for the effort, guys.
thankyou
Well it took me up to this chapter to realise i have been reading this series the wrong way round, no wonder its been confusing lol Doh! :)
I know the feeling.....(￣∇￣")
I was like....."(╯°Д °)╯╧╧ WY U MAKE NO SENSE!!!???"
I just happen to have a look and chapter 5 is translated by Shinmakoku Scanlations
http://shinscans.livejournal.com/33745.html
They don't accept new members so I can't read it
I havent read it either coz im not a member. Hopefully it will be put on here soon :)
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I recommend that you should read this more than once to understand it better. First time i read it i felt really irritated coz of the main character sleeping around and i hate love triangles as well, but after reading it a second time i understand it a lot better. The first time round i didnt like the main character but i understand him better after the second time. Its not a love story for sure, but it's the perfect relationship for them three. Also i think theres a chapter missing coz the guy he's in love with turns up at the end of one chapter, then the next chapter he's not even mentioned.
I was just looking at the Korean Lezhin and there are 48 chapters and still ongoing (i dont understand Korean but it looked still ongoing). By the look of it there are 3 couples so far with the other couples showing up in between, but i could be wrong as im just going off the preview pictures. :)