Ml is trash that sacrificed all the poor people, including fl's mother to raise himself in the ranks, in other words to gain power. He's supposedly obsessed with fl but he left her behind, orphaned. There's absolutely nothing satisfying about this, we have to endure sex scenes with a piece of trash that feels zero regret and uses fl like a sex slave. Disgusted, that's all i was reading this crap. The author also tries really hard to make fl appear strong when all she is during the whole story is dumb. Oh, add grooming to this because he fell in 'love' with her (if he's even capable of that) when fl was a child and he was a whole ass adult and they spent time together until she 'grew' up. Creepy as fuck.
It gets worse. This piece of trash will leave mc with a limp. Also he's going to sexually assault him... Literally cried reading the raws. Ml is basically like a safe space to mc (although ml is kind of suspicious as well). It gets so scary every time we get a scene with this green eyed demon, he's like a bomb about to burst. Someone kill him already
Well by definition SA "refers to sexual contact or behavior that occurs without explicit consent of the victim. Some forms of sexual assault include: Attempted rape. Fondling or unwanted sexual touching. Forcing a victim to perform sexual acts"
I don’t consider a kiss as SA, to me that is more sexual harassment but that's just me.
The thing is that Lister not only forced a kiss on him, he touched and attempted to rape him, but he stoped and it wasn't because he felt sorry for what he was doing to Slyhan.
Ikwym. I myself think of SA per above definition. But a lot of ppl use the word SA to me in place of r* and it's not quite the same thing. They're probably being PC but it doesn't properly convey the gravity of the situation. I'm not saying other forms of SA isn't as *dire*, only that r* itself seems much more severe . So to me they can't just use it interchangeably. (To put it in perspective, the one I was watching was about r* of young girls, one of the shows I was watching, and I would not have used the term SA, myself, I would have used the word r*, because that was what had happened.)
No matter what you do Lister rat, you're never going to get him beg for your sorry ass. Never. You better accept it as soon as you can.
That aside, I'm really impressed by how realistically an abuser is represented here. They often act like they're sorry but they keep on abusing until it eventually gets even worse.
Also, the feeling of bugs crawling in your skin and brain is a very common side effect of drug use. This obsessive green eyed fucker is definitely connected to mc's incident and is taking advantage of him. These drugs are definitely not helping him.
But here's the thing, being prone doesn't mean you have 'already a disorder' as you claimed. And being prone isn't in any way visible nor there's any way to know, because it doesn't solely count on heredity. Anyone can be 'prone' because being prone doesn't make you mentally ill nor does it mean you have something already. Once again, educate yourself.
I hope this serves as a way to explain that yes, drug abuse could be what caused his seizure episode, which later lead to psychotic episodes (probably through the use of a different drug). Oh, and by the way, drugs can cause seizures and psychosis to people who aren't 'prone' too (even though prone people are perfectly healthy as well). Forgot to add in the previous comment.
Oh, and to explain that a caffeine analogy you made is fallacious, comparing a reaction you may have to certain substances has nothing to do with the deliberate results of substances that in general affect the human body. Take for example shrooms and Lsd, they can cause psychotic trance to anyone.Sleep deprivation for days can also cause auditory or/and visual hallucinations as well, you don't need history of mental illness for that. Drugs that cause seizures and brain damage exist as well, no need to be prone in any way, nor be mentally ill.
Do you even know what psychopathy is? It's not even a term that is used by DSM anymore. And he's not even a psychopath by definition, what are you even talking about? Psychotic episodes and in general psychosis isn't psychopathy. Psychopathy was a term that was used(in the past) to describe a personality disorder which is something completely different to psychosis.
So no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that drugs could have caused his psychotic episodes and seizures, because certain substances (in the drugs) are capable of that. I can't explain it in any simpler way.
I think we should stop the conversation here because you don't have enough information on the subject for us to have a proper discussion on it.
I guess I'm more inclined to think he truly has a disorder. That's the only plane I can relate to him on. As I have psychosis and certain situations would induce it. So the story is much more believable. Drug induced psychosis should withdraw once the drug is out of the syst. Whereas illness is incurable and thus requires regular medication. Though psychosis could occur with missing dosage as well. During my female cycles the psychosis lasts for several days and my meds aren't effective, so I'm made to "grin and bear it" for what is now 4 days. So even if his psychosis was induced by drugs if he doesn't have the illness it shouldn't require him to be medicated like this.
The thing is is, the drug is most likely not out of his system, considering he is forced to take it on daily basis.If he was taking it once a moth or a week it would be a different case. He may be getting the drugs to maintain this state, while being lied to that they're used to help him. Someone wants him to stay this way so that he doesn't have any power and remains as a slave. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Drugs are even capable of brain damage.
I hate how she started blushing at his excuses, she's annoyingly naive for her age. I'd be like "Alright, now would you mind stopping it with the informal speech? We're just colleagues" and erase him from my life. He wouldn't be deserving of even a sec of thought. If that motherfucker was indeed sorry over something he did in the past and that was the only reason he didn't want to date, he should have made it clear from the start instead of playing with someone obviously naive and inexperienced. Zero excuses. I'll just read a few more chapters to see if fl will have character development and grow some self respect. If it turns out to be futile, I'll drop
There's no happy ending, fl will be miserable forever. The novel has overwhelmingly negative comments in Korean websites. Ml is a psychopath that doesn't see her and never will as a human. She'll never love him and will end up miserable with him until she gives birth to his child which will be a carbon copy of the bastard. In result, she'll also never be able to love her child because it will remind her of the obsessive monster she was forced to be with. Ml is irredeemable, he only cares about his personal pleasure, nothing else. He sees her as an object with all the meaning of the word and seeing her insecure and helpless pleases him. He wants to be above her, superior and with her being nothing but the old towel he uses to clean his shoes. He's an absolutely not sugarcoated malignant narcissistic, devoid of the emotions that makes us human. Oh, and he's not romanticized for the female gaze, he's straight up icky and horrible. Simply unpalatable to me and i read plenty of dark romance stories.
Guys, no. Ml shouldn't kill him, he should make him off himself instead. Much more satisfying.
The other girl better not believe the lies he's telling about mc. She clearly heard him stating "Why are you home so early?".
Also, the fact that he was getting some sick enjoyment from the fact that he was sleeping around in the house that MC is working hard to maintain... Just eww, he's so revolting that i literally gag everytime i see his face in a panel. I want him to come back, find the house empty and then shoulder all the debt by himself. I'm pretty sure that ml has the connections to transfer the debt to him. I feel so much hatred, i literally want him to off himself from desperation, he doesn't deserve to live. And I'm not saying this just because he cheated, but because he was gashlighting and taking advantage of a vulnerable person for years. Because even after he was caught, he threw the blame to mc. Like his attitude is so sickening it's impressive. He's just another level of subhuman. His lungs and organs could be used on a person that actually contributes in society. I literally got ptsd reading this because I've been the victim of a damn narcissist before and he's literally the definition of it.
Actually he should just hire someone to torture him and put him in the slums and watch him slowly fall into the void of pain that he brought the mc to..
Yeah, this works too