What mc did is NOTHING in comparison to what ml does to a currently disabled person(I'm sorry for saying it like that, but it is what it is) . He needs proper psychiatric help not a fucking sociopath. Ml is a piece of trash, period. And i love how he calls mc selfish when he's a 100000 times more selfish than he is. What he does is so disgusting that i want to pull out my hair every time i see him abusing mc. Oh, and what he did at the very start IS rape. Mc kept on telling him to stop. What he does now is ALSO rape. Coercive rape by forcing him to be with him or he threatens he'll drop his career or die with He's fucking manipulating and gashlighting him until the very end. He literally fucking played with a person that remembers nothing yet pulls the Pikachu face every time he sees him getting a seizure or fainting. Fuck him, he doesn't deserve redemption. And truthfully, i enjoyed it when he told him 'Now i know why i left a person like you'. Oh, and the uke is NOT pathetic like some people here say. Try getting in his fucking shoes, consumed by guilt for everyone about things he doesn't even remember. He feels pushed into a wall.
Now no bad blood. You would say this until you found out what their past was like, I'm not justifying rape but who hasn't seen that well enough in here, my point is the Mc had used him, and no body is talking about how the past Mc was, what was he like? That would warrant the ML to come back with such manic mindset. We won't know how bad you destroy someone until they act on that hurt. Can you believe that ML doesn't even believe Mc memory lost, and called him a good actor, a liar even and turned it all to a game, how fucked up was their past...get to know the both sides before placing judgement. And if it was rape as you all said...Mc had the right to report, to scream for help, to even injure him as self defense, common people, won't it be even scarier to not know a person yet allow them sleep with you? Isn't that a more reason you should act fast and get them arrested or do worse things to them to escape, what I said there was a woojun that was enjoy whatever moment they had. Even in the bathroom he had a choice to scream for help but he was there moaning, he had a choice to tell his mom he didn't want to go with his rapist yet he got into the car. You all would claim that it's because he's doing it for his memories but I would call y'all dumb, because rape is never a nice feeling. It triggers your fright and fight instincts. Not make you moan like an idiot and say you can't control your body around the person. So before y'all come for me first wait for the whole story. I know woojun left a lot of a mess and his present self is suffering for it.
You clearly don't understand how someone under the effect of traumatic memory loss works. It's easy to coerce and take advantage of a person affected by this, especially if you guilt trip and gashlight them constantly. It's easy to make them feel so much guilt towards the people around them that they'll follow you. In this case mc didn't want to further burden his mom by changing his mind again over acting, hence while he followed ml and ml knew that and that's why he took advantage of the situation.
Also, we know what mc did, yes he took advantage of ml in the past, but this doesn't mean he deserves rape, coercion and more trauma when he's currently disabled. No excuses. Ml's actions don't deserve justification. And we got a clear explanation of what mc did to ml in the past, which is abandoning him after using his connections to show biz. While that is bad, it's certainly not deserving of this trash behavior while he's fucking recovering. If ml wasn't a disgusting person, he would actually wait for the person to recover and only then deal with the 'bad blood' he has with them. The way you say 'Woojin left a lot of mess and his current self is paying for it' sounds to me like you very much justify the rape and the mental torture he went through while he is disabled. Trauma is not an excuse for perpetuating harm and suffering, nor a get-out-of-jail-free card for causing emotional or physical pain to others.
So no, i would still stand on my point. I wouldn't think rape and more trauma when mc is disabled would be justified, even after i get the full picture.
Oh, and I'm not saying mc is innocent, I'm just criticizing ml's action that are absolutely unacceptable. Period.
Also, you are unbelievably ignorant. Rape can make the victim feel physically good in the middle. Crazy right? But true. It doesn't change the fact that there was no consent and that their boundaries got stepped on. Bodily reactions or even acceptance in the middle is what makes a lot of victims of assault feel shame and guilt, even though it was by no means their fault.
In mc's case, even if let's say he 'accepted' and has forgiven ml for the rape, it still doesn't change that he said no and ml didn't stop. It doesn't change the fact that it was rape. Also let's add to this the fact that Korea has a completely different culture and that man on man assault is almost NEVER reported. It doesn't even pass through the victim's mind to report it because they are a man. Not to mention you completely missed the subtle way ml literally manipulated mc's situation by become accepted and respected by the people around mc's life. A rapist can manipulate you into accepting them, can control you and certainly can invade you life and make you accept them while you are vulnerable. Can even make you question if what they did to you is bad or wrong. They can slowly walk over your boundaries and push until they can see how much you can take and that's what ml did to mc while he was feeling alone, not understood and vulnerable.
You comment unfortunately didn't make me change my view, it just made me assume you are naive.
And next time some research before you call anyone dumb.
They raped him while he was unconscious and he DIDN'T find out until he saw photos they took of him. He'll get gang raped until he wants to die by 10+ people and oh, they'll have a horse almost rape him. Yes, you read that right. EVERYONE in this school is a fucked up lowlife. I'm dropping and nope, the psychological horror is below average. This story is just violent for the sake of being violent, it's a boring copy paste of the other extremely fucked up yaoi out there. It's something like 'No reason'. So let's not give props to authors that lack creativity and simply create something as violent as possible for shock value since they can't actually think of something original. It's an uninteresting story with uninteresting characters and Insert every possible way someone can get raped and voila! This abomination was created. Had this had rape as means to add to the already interesting plot and characters, i would like it, because this would actually mean it's an interesting story. This one is simply not. I regret wasting my free time to this.
I wish i could get inside this webtoon just to kill this worthless blonde waste of space. No, not all people's lives are equal, not all deserve to live. For example the blond rat doesn't deserve life because he's nothing by nature's abomination. He should get castrated with the traditional chainsaw way, then assaulted the same way he assaulted and keeps on assaulting mc. He shouldn't die immediately. His death should be slow and painful.
And what exactly is the redemption? So we're going to just ignore what he did to her? Are we serious? Why should she end up with that lowly STD infested male rat? Can't he just fuck himself until his dick rots and falls off? I'm furious right now. Another privileged ml not facing the consequences of his actions just because he realized he's suddenly in love with the person he treat like shit. Disgusting. All he is, is a filthy hypocrite that used her(he INTENTIONALLY kept on sleeping with her to create a scandal), a miserable, poor girl that was literally constantly abused by his equally disgusting sister. He didn't see her as a human being when she was a maid but as an expendable object with no feelings. And once she conveniently became the sister of the queen, without feeling ANY regret aside from the fact that he couldn't immediately have her, he ends up with her. I just want to barf. He doesn't feel sorry about anyone but himself yet he SOOOOO loves to play the innocent kind guy in comparison to his sister. If i was such a sorry excuse of a human being like him, I'd kill myself to protect the world from the stench of my disgusting behavior.
Ryan is someone who actually sees her for who she is and not as some idealized version like her ex husband. Hell, most people that actually met her are seeing her for who she is without prejudice, which is tragic, considering the person she was married to didn't even try to understand her and was only controlled by feelings of misguided hatred.
Annette at least tries to correct her wrongs (she never even committed in the first place) and become a better version of herself while Heiner is still stuck in the past, in a constant state of cognitive dissonance.
Selfish until the end. The least he could do was ignore her like he did in the previous life and let her go. He should be pleased with he just her being alive so that his selfish ass doesn't go insane due to the mate bond. He shouldn't expect her to be with him. He didn't respect her in the previous life and he doesn't respect her now. Her feelings don't matter to him, he only cares about himself.
When he said the word teabag, i got ptsd flashbacks from dead by daylight
oh wait no, i had it wrong, i thought dbd was like a series of chapter of sorts in re but just found out that it was just a crossover chapter in dbd and that dbd is a completely seperate game. Sorry i must've confused you asking that TT Even the only reason I know a bit or two about Resident Evil is solely because of Leon Kennedy lol. I do play games of visual novel genre but that's as far as it goes.
Her brother hates her (no sweet home Alabama) but he's obsessed with her eyes so he's afraid she's going to escape solely for this reason. Why? Because they were both born with grey eyes but based on the empire's crown history, only the true, legitimate heir's eyes change to blue color. Everyone expected it'll be him but it was his sister instead. So yeah, while he's jealous and absolutely detests her (hence why he makes her suffer), he also doesn't want to lose the only proof of true, loyal blood. He's basically a blue blood extremist.
Nah, when I read the novel I definitely got that vibe. You can be attracted to someone you hate- but my real opinion is that he's so narcissistic and jealous that he's obsessed with seeing her as not just his property, but an extension of his self. As literal twins, he not only sees her as the closest female version of his self (and he obviously only cares about his self), but he wants to own her entirely. His desire is for complete domination and possession, including her body, and in a weird way of doing so sees his self as still 'owning' that one trait (just not specifying to not spoil the first chapter).
Like..... r*** is often more about dominating and breaking someone through violence. It's not usually about normal attraction, but more of an act of force that translates into gratification. A scary number of people are... gratified... when they feel powerful through hurting others. I mean, look at almost any historical war. Even if he doesn't exactly have romantic feelings or what we typically view as normal lust, he still crosses the line of from 'brother' to 'man' in many ways. Honestly, in the first chapter you can see that regardless of later events (still avoiding spoiling), the level of interest in enjoyment and the implications of the physical contact is enough in itself to show an unhealthy level of sexual interest in a sibling.
Also I'm so sorry for this random creepy rant, I think my adhd meds kicked in at the worst time. But I don't wanna delete it. Please don't hate me. Also nice to see another novel reader in the wild and anyway have a good day!!
While i do see your point, what you described is still not attraction. Hatred can be as intense as even love and can lead someone to obsession. Your description is basically my point, she completes the narcissistic image he has of himself. He sees her as an undeserving extension of himself but if he could, he could do without her, as long as he could transfer all that makes her fit that twisted image he has back to himself. His actions, rather than an 'unhealthy level of sexual interest' are instead, what i believe to be, what he thinks he has a right to do as the other half of an unbreakable whole. I don't think it's sexual interest rather than the pleasure he gets from the entitlement to do whatever he wants, since he doesn't consider his sister her own person. The sadism he feels and his control towards her whole life could be compared to a need for sexual gratification but it's still not it. It's more twisted than that.
Also, no hatred towards you whatsoever. We're all entitled to our own interpretation of the story. So long as you don't personally attack me we're good.
I personally feel that thinking someone is objectively attractive and also desiring to have a large role in the sex life of that person, regardless of why exactly they want sexual contact... is still... well, sexual. In any situation that a person would want complete sexual: knowledge, control, involvement, and some physical intimate contact... it's just still... sexual. Maybe not romantic or loving or anything, but the demented lust to own, control, and manipulate someone's sex life for your own pleasure... I can't see that as completely not sexual. If a coworker asked if I enjoyed sexual activities from people they sent my way... I mean, that would be absolutely unhinged sexual harassment. Stroking my bare skin while asking? No one would say it wasn't related to sexual interest. Whether a coworker or a family member, no one would think it was a platonic relationship. I personally just can't see a brother be obsessed and possessive with a sister, especially obsessed with her sex life, and not get some incest vibes. I think any reason for sexual interest still, well, counts? Idk how to explain better.
Anyway, have a good one!
I get your p.o.v, it's alright you explained it perfectly, i just do not agree and view it this way.