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Sazz February 4, 2025 2:46 am

On the topic regarding Caesar and Leewon's empathy: You can understand someone without excusing his actions. Trauma isn't an excuse for abuse, it just explains how someone is primed to think.

Don't get me wrong, i like the story because i like dark stuff but i still do NOT think that his upbringing should be used as an excuse for his actions. He still had the option to not be a piece of trash, he knows that he IS hurting Leewon, but his selfish need to possess him overpowers this.

A relationship cannot work with selfishness as its foundation.

Lots of people grow unloved, chased, abused and even tortured but still do not become abusers. Now you'll tell me he didn't have the time to actually grow as a person due to the fact that he's in the mafia and therefore constantly in war since his biryh, and i'll tell you sure, you're right. But this still doesn't change the fact that he's a horrible human being and his backstory doesn't and shouldn't earn him forgiveness but only an explanation.

Outside of fiction NO one deserves the torture of being with a person like him.

My point is, no one needs to "remember" his past while witnessing his disgusting actions, rough childhood or not, understanding his insecurity born from his unloving environment or not.

You don't need to remember his 'sad past', when you feel disgust for what he is doing in the 'current' moment. His past doesn't remove the effects of his actions happening at the current moment and thinking it does, is in my opinion an incredibly damaging mindset to have.

Empathy doesn't warranty sympathy, especially when you're the side receiving the abuse. Empathy means you have the ability to understand someone and understanding someone's feelings, motivations and mindset doesn't mean you have to agree or even forgive it if it affects your personal values and wellbeing. I'm really annoyed when people(not in this comment section necessarily, i'm just speaking in general) think that with empathy you automatically forgive and accept everything about the other person. It cannot be explained in such a simplistic way because it's a way more complex process.

This article is the only one i found which explains it in a simplistic yet accurate way: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/social-empathy/202008/empathy- does-not-mean-acceptance. (connect it from where i left a space for the link to work)

    Read February 4, 2025 5:05 am

    Girl this is a book?? Do you need a publisher

    Sazz February 4, 2025 12:22 pm
    Girl this is a book?? Do you need a publisher Read

    You do have the option to scroll away if you're not interested at reading my comment. Simple as that.

    Kayy <3 February 4, 2025 1:49 pm
    You do have the option to scroll away if you're not interested at reading my comment. Simple as that. Sazz

    I think the person above was saying that that person WROTE a book in the comment section, and asked if they need a personal publisher.

    Sazz February 4, 2025 1:59 pm
    I think the person above was saying that that person WROTE a book in the comment section, and asked if they need a personal publisher. Kayy <3

    I'm sorry, i'm a bit slow regarding this matter (pulling all nighters doesn't help lol) so could you explain it again? I don't think i have the braincells currently to understand what you mean. What person wrote a book? I perceived it as sarcasm for a too 'long', according to them, comment

    Sazz February 4, 2025 2:04 pm
    I think the person above was saying that that person WROTE a book in the comment section, and asked if they need a personal publisher. Kayy <3

    Oh wait, you said 'that person' when the person who wrote the comment is me so i got confused for a moment lol Sure, perhaps they said this to be perceived directly as it's read but it's not wrong for me to interpret it as sarcasm unless the comment themselves tell me otherwise.

Sazz January 17, 2025 11:00 am

I know this is purposely written to be dark and all, but i think it's really badly written, to the point i can't enjoy it. Their dialogues are certainly not intelligent, ml who is supposed to be cunning and smart, can actually easily get humbled, it was really frustrating seeing fl getting so easily swing around by him. He's not smart and the things he says can easily be turned against him, to the point i want to scream when fl doesn't take the opportunity. I've read black flag romance before, where fl truly gets cornered by ml, without any opportunities to fight back, so this story is pretty mid to me.

    userao1 January 18, 2025 6:00 pm

    WAIT CAN U GIVE ME SOME RECCS PLS

    Forestella January 21, 2025 7:48 am

    Give us recsssss

    userao1 January 22, 2025 5:23 am
    Give us recsssss Forestella

    Right hahha

    Karmilla January 22, 2025 3:27 pm

    Me tooo, give recs

    Kon January 24, 2025 10:05 am

    Recssss pleaseeeee ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

    nameless passerby January 24, 2025 8:35 pm

    don't be all talk REVEAL THAT "have read before" novels or whatever you're saying cause imma judge if it's real lmao

    So far there's only a few smartly written story I've read. One is bl genre then the rest are real historical books lmao

    I'm interested so drop the name or link.

    btw Bridgerton series is well written as well but seems the adaptation kinda butchering it. It's one of my wildest fantasy to read a book like Bridgerton but darker like literal killer vibes
    (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Sazz January 24, 2025 9:20 pm
    don't be all talk REVEAL THAT "have read before" novels or whatever you're saying cause imma judge if it's real lmaoSo far there's only a few smartly written story I've read. One is bl genre then the rest are r... nameless passerby

    Blood and gold fanfiction by ObsidianPen
    If i can't have you by Deathsdoll (OG book in ao3)
    The community by Deathsdoll (OG book in ao3)
    Formless bl webtoon and novel (in the novel it's more clear how ml conditions mc to depend on him)
    Through a glass, darkly by nenia cambell
    And MAAANY more which do not come to mind right now and i don't feel like searching my history. There are countless talented authors in the world which make the dialogues and world building in this story seem like a joke.

    Congratulations, you coaxed these out of me (manipulative little shit).

    For more, consult the dark romance and yandere male subs on reddit.

    Pretty sure there are plenty of smartly written, as you so nicely put it, manhwa as well(even Matthias from cry even better if you beg is smarter than this ml based on the novel). They simply do not come to mind right now, i've read too many things.

    Now kindly STOP PESTERING ME AND SEARCH BY YOURSELF.

    The end.

    nameless passerby January 24, 2025 10:01 pm
    Blood and gold fanfiction by ObsidianPenIf i can't have you by Deathsdoll (OG book in ao3)The community by Deathsdoll (OG book in ao3)Formless bl webtoon and novel (in the novel it's more clear how ml condition... Sazz

    Thanks. Now I have reason to lock myself yet again in my room hehe

    AphroditeGodess February 1, 2025 11:00 am
    Blood and gold fanfiction by ObsidianPenIf i can't have you by Deathsdoll (OG book in ao3)The community by Deathsdoll (OG book in ao3)Formless bl webtoon and novel (in the novel it's more clear how ml condition... Sazz

    I feel in love with you i think?

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Sazz December 12, 2023 3:14 pm

Hello, can you guys recommend some webtoons (or manga) that are romance (+others tags of course) with ml that is unapologetically a psychopath? Not someone that doesn't just start out as evil but is just misunderstood. I don't care if it's yaoi or straight, I'm okay with anything, smut or not as well(something that doesn't contain rape if possible.) I want someone that is kinda like Kang Moo from 'the beast must die'.

Sazz November 30, 2023 3:04 am

So I'd some toxic romance story recommendations, I don't care if it's straight, yaoi or yuri, where the main character in the end leaves the toxic love interest to heal and lives alone or with someone that actually loves them. I don't want the toxic love interest to be a secondary love interest, but the main one. Something like the webtoon "who is the prey" or the book "Hunger games: The ballad of songbirds and snakes". In these stories the female protagonists leave the toxic male leads and lead lives for themselves in the end.

    That Fujoshi December 7, 2023 8:56 pm

    Here~
    1. Sun's blood
    2. Dine With a Vampire (Yaoi)
    3. Kiraide Isasete
    4. Hogu Hagyeongsu (uke leaves seme but due to seme pulling strings uke has to come back as uke has no other option left)
    5. Sissy (uke leaves seme but due to seme pulling strings uke has to come back as uke has no other option left)

    Sazz December 8, 2023 2:30 am
    Here~1. Sun's blood2. Dine With a Vampire (Yaoi)3. Kiraide Isasete4. Hogu Hagyeongsu (uke leaves seme but due to seme pulling strings uke has to come back as uke has no other option left) 5. Sissy (uke leaves s... That Fujoshi

    Thank you very much for the recs!

    That Fujoshi December 8, 2023 4:55 am
    Thank you very much for the recs! Sazz

    No problem :)

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