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Easy cop out, this way everyone's happy. Not me though...you can't just not say who's the father, so you can please more ppl. And turning them into dogs? Really? For fucks sake, don't make a bunch of guys fall in love with her if you're going to give us this half-assed ending. I used to love this manga, but this ending destroyed it for me. In real life ppl deal with their shit and then move on. I am disappointed and sad :/
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So I'm re-reading this and came to a great realization paper is fucking dangerous...Kaneki can't cut himself with a kitchen knife, the knife literally bends...BUT he can get a motherfucking papercut...paper can cut him and make him bleed but a knife can't...I've always known paper is evil, guys watch out...you might be its next victim lol But seriously, how does that even work?
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I want a relationship like this...where are the otakus around me?! Pls...? No? ok...
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Exactly!!! I truly wish that'd happen...I mean even if the person doesn't like manga/anime, as long as he likes movies and tv shows...or music! Just someone who has something in common with me...and doesn't look at me weird for laughing like a maniac or crying when reading manga, that'd be perfect lol well wtv, if it has to happen it will :P
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When something seems too good to be true in kuroshitsuji, its because it is lol The moment that dude invited Edward I knew something fishy was happening and when I actually saw the party and saw it was good and nice...oops something bad's happening. Is it some kind of cult? Lizzy wouldn't just leave the house. And I don't know why everyone is hating on Lizzy, yes I wanna know what the undertaker did but Lizzy leaving the house is also important.
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Is...is Kaneki back? I don't know why...that movement just reminded me of him...I truly felt like it was him...? I hope he comes back for at least 1 minute *cries* I miss him.
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As they are the same person with different memories, I'll leave you some pages where he does that movement while being Kaneki and Sasaki:
Kaneki:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/tokyo_ghoul/tr/v06/c052/1.html/pg-3/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/tokyo_ghoul/tr/v07/c064/pg-17/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/tokyo_ghoul/tr/c086/pg-7/
Sasaki:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/tokyo_ghoulre/bt/v03/c027/pg-16/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/tokyo_ghoulre/bt/v05/c051/pg-15/
He likes to use his legs and tights... and we love it!
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You didn't have to go out of your way to prove me wrong *cries* I was just hoping he'd come back...it was a feeling I had and now I'm sad...because you shattered my hope. But yeah I wasn't really expecting it to be true :/ sadly. Still thanks for actually going through the trouble of answering me, pretty cool of you ^^ It's still a pretty badass move and I love Kaneki!!!
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Oh, no, no. That wasn't my intention. Please don't be sad...
Hahaha, I began to write before reading it all. You're welcome >U<
I love him too.
I'm not really sure if they are the same person or not, because now I see it as him losing his memories, but if it is something like multiple personalities (I need to study that to understand it), I... I... I just hope they both will be well... :'(
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I think they are the same person, not different personalities. I mean if you take Kaneki's memories away and put him in a new environment as a ghoul investigator he would turn out like Haise, because at the center of Kaneki is a really kind boy who's trying to protect everyone but especially the people he loves. So they are the same person...at least that's what I thought until you said that...now I'm not sure anymore...I mean Haise has been seeing Kaneki in his mind, which I thought it was a manifestation of his memories, trying to come back but now I can't be sure. I just really miss him :( I love Haise, but he's incomplete, he doesn't remember what he went through, he doesn't remember his loved ones...and it's heartbreaking. But some memories are seeping through, so maybe Kaneki isn't that far off from returning...hopefully. Sorry for the huge answer lol
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There is no need to apologize. Thank you for your reply :)
I prefer to think he lost his memories. But sometimes I have my doubts, because Kaneki and Sasaki have said "I might dissapear" a few times.
However, I've seen this way of approaching the "lost memory" topic in other manga: "if I get my memories back, it would mean I would lose the ones that I've now". Does it really work like that in RL?
I also hope he can remember. It would be awful if he remembered too late... (after killing/hurting the ones he loves).
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Yeah, you're right...they sometimes make it seem like they aren't the same person.
No, I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. But the feeling that Haise has is probably if the memories come back he would no longer exist...because in the end he is Kaneki. Not sure if things are that simple, I'm pretty sure if the memories do come back, now he wouldn't be Kaneki nor Haise but a combination of the two...maybe.
But that's the feeling I get, that maybe he'll only remember after he does something really bad to someone he cares about...but hopefully the mangaka won't make us go through that!!
Seriously don't read my comment if you don't wanna be spoiled!!
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So I just "read" the raws (ok i saw the pictures, 'cause i can't read japanese lol) and from what i got Ogata is an asshole, the moment he saw Saya had a dick he bolted? Like wtf did u think he had there? A vagina? DID I MISS SOMETHING? That was what happened right? I'm so disappointed :( I was expecting a nice cute manga...don't play with my heart uwahhhhh :'(
SPOILERS: I can read Chinese more or less... lol... so basically Ogata keeps thinking that Saya is cute throughout the next few chapters, but once he sees his dick he's like [in big text] "A man." So he's like he knew Saya was a man, but it didn't really hit him until then, and he even comments his dick was like "stiffer than expected" lmao. So he just stares at Saya and Saya laughs it off like "You have a weird expression." and like 'it's fine, whatever' (sorry I read this yesterday so I already forgot the specific dialogue lol). Ogata leaves and thinks about how he must have hurt Saya... meanwhile Saya starts to cry when he thinks about how Ogata looked at him with disgust. (I hope I remembered this correctly.)
I don't mind the spoil but now you guys are making me impatient to read the next chapter .
i saw the raws and i think it's pretty realistic reaction and i believe they'll work things out in the future and i want to know more about saya's past.
Oh ok so I was right...what a bummer :/ And Saya was crying so much...I'm sad now.
It's realistic? If you go after a guy he'll have a dick...you can't be surprised about that...-.-' But yeah I'm interested in his past too ^^
Poor baby :'(
Thank you :)
Ogata seemed hetero, so it might be his first time being interested in a guy, sexually interested. So, he may have not think so much about the fact Saya was a man, he was attracted to him, moreover when he was the first person to understand his expressions.
It's hurtful, yes. He was mean, yeah, Was it his intention? Maybe not, I can't read Chinese...And of course people should think things better and then make choices, but that's not how it happens in real life. That's why it's realistic.
It's not like other yaoi where they say "no, I'm not gay, you're a guy" and in their first chance BAM! "I don't mind you have a duck, let's just suck it. Oh, by the way I always liked women and thought men and ducks were disgusting. Hmm, what a yummy duck".
Quack!
Duck..quack LOL you're killing me hahaha But yeah I guess you do have a point...thinking about it that way I guess it is more realistic. It still makes me sad :(
it was a totally realistic reaction, especially if you've only ever dated girls and have only ever fantisized about boobs and stuff like imagine seeing another dude's hard on for the first fucking time
yeah seems like he interested in him coz hes kind,sweet and cute af not because hes a guy in the 1st place and when he want to take step forward reality hit him hard.like really really hard
I'm glad I made you laugh (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
And it made me sad too... ╥﹏╥
Even if I can't understand what they were saying in the raws, ughh!
I liked chapter one because it was sooo beautiful, I like Ogeretsu Tanaka's works, but this... oh my, I felt it from the begining, I can't wait for the next chapters scanlation.
Yes...I rarely...and I mean seriously rarely see raws, because I don't understand it and it's a bitch to wait for the translation afterwards. But the first chapter was cute and I got curious...and then I saw the raws and regretted it...I should've known. This mangaka only does heartbreaking stories one way or another, so I don't understand how I didn't see this coming..I'm an idiot. You my friend are far smarter than me lol But yes I can't wait for the next chapter either :)
I've roughly translated the second half of ch 3 and all of ch 4 and posted them as separate comments/topics if you'd like to read. :)
Yes thanks for warning me...I read them and I'm still sad :'( I want them to end up together *cries*